Ol Dirty Bastard vs Kanye West… Who had the Illest Award Show Interruption?

Long before Kanye, the late ODB was known for bumrushing stages during award shows. At least ODB said he was doing it for the kids

Long before Kanye, the late ODB was known for bumrushing stages during award shows.

Was debating with a friend about the most memorable Award show interruption..There’s been lots over the years..From Tim Commerford of Rage Against the Machine sitting on top of a stage prop after RATM lost to Limp Bizkit to Lil Mamma walking on stage when Jay-Z and Alicia Keys was performing New York to Suge Knight calling out Diddy during the Source Awards.. In discussing this with a few friends..It all came down to Ol Dirty Bastard vs Kanye West… Who had the Illest Award Show Interruption?

In 98 ODB of the Wu-Tang Clan stormed the stage and claimed he and the WU loved the kids.. It was classic and seemed destined to never be topped until Kanye West stormed the stage at the 2009 MTV Video Music Awards and infamously interrupted singer Taylor Swift with his famous  ‘Imma Let You Finish but….

Anyway here’s a couple of clips.. ODB or Kanye..

Ol’ Dirty Bastard at 98 Grammys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdNHS8b9C7I

 

Kanye West at 2009  MTV Video Music Awards

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z8gCZ7zpsQ

We had to toss in this clip of Mos Def who got arrested in front of the 2006 VMAs protesting the treatment folks got in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6-LgAfRtEs

 

Greatest Posse Cut of All-time: Juice Crew’s Symphony vs Wu-Tang’s Triumph-Who wins?

Juice-Crew-vs-Wu-TangBeen having a heated debate about the greatest pose track of all time… There’s been lots of landmark cuts to choose from like Main Source‘s Live at the BBQ which featured a young Nas among others..

You had Craig Mack‘s Flava in Ya Ear which featured notables like Notorious BIG, Busta Rhymes and LL to name a few..

Of course we had Tribe Called Quest‘s  Scenario which featured Leaders of the New School and the late Kid Hood.  But at the end of the day you gotta narrow it down to two tracks..

One of my favorites is Heavy D‘s slept on track .. A Buncha Ni— which featured among others Guru and a young Notorious BIG who made his debut

Juice Crew.. The Symphony which features Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap, Craig G and Master Ace. When that song dropped in ’88 Hip Hop changed for the better. Everyone had to step up their lyrical game. The careers of all those featured took off and almost all featured on that song were immortalized within the Hip Hop annals …

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbsPTkwqWCI

It would be almost 10 years before another quintessential posse cut would come along on par with the Juice Crew. In ’97 the Wu Tang Clan dropped Triumph where all 9 members of Wu-Tang including Capaddona came along and like the Juice Crew before them changed the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isumZjs3dKA

its always been a Hip Hop fantasy to speculate as to what would happen if the Juice Crew squared off w/ Wu-Tnag in a lyrical battle.. Who would match up with who? How would things go down? Juice Crew’s Symphony vs Wu-Tang’s Triumph.. Which is the Greatest of all-time?

19 Years Ago the World Was Introduced to Wu-Tang Clan..’The 36 Chambers’

19 years ago today…one of the greatest Hip Hop albums of all-time was dropped Enter Wu-Tang the 36 Chambers and the world was introduced to an incredible group, that many initially thought was Chinese.. When we first heard the lead joint Protect Your Neck and heard them claiming they were from Shaolin and was going by the name Wu-Tang Clan many of us outside of New York were marveling at how Hip Hop had expanded and some raw Asian cats were repping hard on the mic..

Later we discovered the who the group was and their depth of talent and remained impressed. We loved how artists like Rza and Gza who had previous stints as solo artists  or in groups like Grave Diggaz under the names Prince Rakeem and the Genius respectively, had remade themselves and resurfaced as cornerstones of this new 9 member crew..that would flip Hip Hop upside its head. Many of us were left awestruck to see how Staten Island, the so-called forgotten borough had become the epic center for Hip Hop nearly overnight..Its been almost 20 years and many of us still have not fully come to know and appreciate all that is and has been Wu-Tang..

This is what writer  Christopher Muhammad who reminded us about today had to say..

This day 19 years ago one of the greatest Hip Hop albums of all time by arguably the best rap group of all time was released November 9, 1993 on Loud Records and distributed through RCA Records. The album’s title originates from the martial arts film The 36th Chamber of Shaolin (1978). The group’s de facto leader RZA, also known as Prince Rakeem, produced the album entirely, utilizing heavy, eerie beats and a sound largely based on martial-arts movie clips and soul music samples.

The distinctive sound of Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) created a blueprint for hardcore hip hop during the 1990s and helped return New York City hip hop to national prominence. Its sound also became hugely influential in modern hip hop production, while the group members’ explicit, humorous, and free-associative lyrics have served as a template for many subsequent hip hop records. Serving as a landmark record in the era of hip hop known as the East Coast Renaissance, its influence helped lead the way for several other East Coast hip hop artists, including Nas, The Notorious B.I.G., Mobb Deep, and Jay-Z.

Despite its raw, underground sound, the album had surprising chart success, peaking at number 41 on the US Billboard 200 chart. By 1995, it was certified platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America for shipments of one million copies in the United States. Initially receiving positive reviews from most music critics, Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) has been regarded by music writers as one of the most significant albums of the 1990s, as well as one of the greatest hip hop albums of all-time. In 2003, the album was ranked number 386 on Rolling Stone magazine’s list of the 500 greatest albums of all time.

Salute to RZA, GZA, Method Man, Raekwon, Ghostface Killah, Inspectah Deck, U-God, Masta Killa,and the late Ol’ Dirty Bastard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCZrz8siv4Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjZRAvsZf1g

The Return of LA Hip Hop… Blu is in the Building

Whoever said Hip Hop was dead, obviously had not peeped Blu, a South Central LA native who defies any and all stereotypes we like to associate with cats from the hood and West Coast emcees.

For starters we have to take special note to the way the tall lanky emcee spells his name. There is no ‘E’ at the end and its a oversight that he often rhymes about. Second, Blu got hip to Hip Hop late in life. He is the stepson of a strict pastor who forbade him from listening to Hip Hop while he was growing up. His biological father is a member of the Bloods who listens to gangsta and Bay Area turf raps. To this day Blu’s dad calls him him ‘Flu’ instead of Blu. Thats how deep it gets.

According to Blu, he got turned onto groups like De La Soul only after hearing DMX. His musical upbringing and ultimate influences before being introduced to Hip Hop was centered around a diverse collection of artists ranging from Al Green to Thelonious Monk to Bob Dillon. It’s no mistake that the lead song off his ‘Below the Heavens‘ album is a remake of the Del’s classic ‘My World is…

Blu says he regrets missing the Golden era of LA Hip Hop which was personified by legendary spots like the Good Life and Hip Hop staples like Freestyle Fellowship, Jurassic 5, Project Blowed and the late Bigga B to name a few. However there’s no denying that his lyrical prowess and charismatic style kicks in where those legends left off.

Blu acknowledges that it was people like Charli2na of the J5 who sat him down and laced him up with lots of info and tales surrounding the scene of that bygone era. Much of what 2na told him was underscored by radio shows like The Wake Up Show and Friday Nite Flavas before it was unceramoniously taken off the air.

As Blu honed his emcee skills he cites Inspectah Deck of the Wu-Tang Clan, LA legend Cashus King and Planet Asia as being big influences. With respect to Deck, Blu says that he’s the illest emceee when it comes to kicking off a song. He cites the track Triumph as the one where Deck truly shines. Blu’s one regret with the new debut album ‘Below the Heavens‘ was not having Deck on. However when peeping songs like ‘Simply Amazing‘ you can clearly hear how he was inspired.

During our interview in which Blu walked us through a variety of songs including ‘Narrow Path‘, ‘Simply Amazing‘, ‘Show Me the Good Life‘ featuring singer Aloe Blacc of the Dirty Science Crew and ‘Bullet through Me‘ off an upcoming album called ‘Piece Talks‘, he admits that he has a lot to say and his feverishly working to put out 6 different projects which will allow him to get everything off his chest. He refuses to be limited by industry driven categories and limitations.

For example, in the song ‘Bullet Through Me‘ which is off the Piece Talks album produced by Ta’arach, Blu does an experimental cover of a Paul McCarthy song. He admits that upon first listens many will question where he is going and what he’s doing, but folks will learn to get passed any hesitations. His ultimate goal is to put fun back into Hip Hop and be creative. He also wants to help bring national attention back to LA and west coast Hip Hop. In 2008 where everyone is talking about Change, Blu’s attitude and outlook is right in step. This looks to be a big year for him.

by Davey D

You can peep the Blu interview on Breakdown FM by clicking the link below

Rap COINTELPRO Pt2 (Wu-Tang Clan & The Village Voice)

Cedric Muhammad

Last week we raised the possibility that an organized attempt had been and still is being made to destabilize the Hip-Hop industry and thus the community. We briefly looked at the murder of the Notorious B.I.G. and raised some unanswered questions surrounding his death; introduced some important background information regarding the FBI’s COINTELPRO which was dedicated to destabilizing Black and progressive organizations, especially in the 1960s and 70s; and posed a challenge to Black intellectuals to apply their knowledge of the tactics used by the U.S. government to oppose Black leaders, to Biggie’s murder in particular, and to the Hip-Hop Industry/Community in general.

We also pointed you to a Brill’s Content article that shows how the L.A. Times has been involved in disseminating false information regarding Biggie’s murder. We also took pains to mention that it was this story and one prior to it that brought Suge Knight’s name into the mix as allegedly involved in Biggie’s death. We openly questioned that if the L.A. Times article is misinformation wouldn’t that point to Mr. Knight’s innocence and we asked who was the original source in the FBI/LAPD that fingered Suge Knight? What was their motive for doing this, through the media? I hope that some of you, in your study of COINTELPRO and other programs, are familiar with the manner in which the FBI and CIA used reporters and media outlets, print and TV, to plant stories, have articles written and spread malicious lies – much of which was directed at getting groups that otherwise could have worked together to fight one another.

Last week, I also openly stated that it was my opinion that the image and rumors of an East Coast – West Coast Hip-Hop “war” were a fabrication of the media and perpetuated by local and federal police departments prior to and during the investigations into Tupac and Biggie’s murders, in large part via information fed to reporters in various media outlets. We will conclude this series next week on this crucial point of the role of the media, in particular its role in COINTELPRO of yesterday and its possible continuation today. This week we take a very brief look at a more recent situation in Hip-Hop that again raises the possibility that the Federal Government has ill- intentions for the Hip-Hop Community.

A few weeks ago, the Village Voice published an article alleging that over the last year a white government informant was in some capacity representing members of the multi-platinum group, Wu-Tang Clan, while the group was under criminal investigation. After reading the article, it is readily apparent that it was a sensationalized story designed to reflect negatively upon Wu-Tang.

The story also appeared to be crafted in great part because while the headlines emphasized the supposed connection between this white individual and Wu-Tang, the article deals more substantively with the individual’s alleged real connection to white organized crime figures in New York and Miami. The individual is reportedly a government informant in a case involving Mob figures in New York and Miami. So while real evidence allegedly links the individual to Mob figures, the Village Voice cover and headlines and subtitles focused on a very unclear connection between the “informant’ and the Hip-Hop group. Most of the information on that front is anecdotal in nature that informs the reader of little.

The real story is this individual’s relationship with white underworld figures and the feds yet the Village Voice markets the piece, which was picked up by news services all over the world, as quality reporting that somehow connects this individual’s relationship with the U.S. Government with his relationship with Wu-Tang. The piece doesn’t live up to that billing. It never connects the dots but to an unsuspecting and innocent reader, it does open the Clan up to suspicion not only in terms of a link to the feds but also in terms of criminal activity. I found that to be peculiar and yes, the deliberate intention of the Village Voice. In the weeks that have followed the piece, many people have spread more rumors, gossip and innuendo regarding the Clan over the Internet and many people seem to have only read the sensational headlines but have not analyzed the story or the motive behind it with a critical mind.

To me, the aim of the Village Voice and/or whoever may have helped them craft the story, was to discredit the Clan inside of the unforgiving world of the New York Hip-Hop community and to discredit them among their core group of fans. It also attempted to portray the group as unintelligent but it definitely did not seek to prove that the individual was really working on behalf of the government specifically against the Clan, though the article and headlines imply otherwise.

This is one of the factors that makes me believe that someone bigger than just the Village Voice may have been behind the story – how else could the government come off clean and the Clan looking rather uncomplimentary. Remember, the story is supposed to be about feds, Wu and this informant but it ends up really only being about the informant and Wu. What happened to the feds?

Village Voice Article drew suspicion Capadonna & Ghostface

The reason why I stress that point is because I believe the writer(s) could have proved or disproved whether the informant was working against the Clan if they so desired and from reading the piece, I believe that the writer(s) has discussed the government’s surveillance of Wu-Tang with enough people in the know, to be able to determine whether or not this government informant is directly working against Wu-Tang or if he is only with the group strictly for business purposes as he gives evidence on the alleged Miami/New York crime figures. The writer(s) simply asks why the informant was working with Wu-Tang in any capacity and spends the majority of the article lampooning and mocking the group. And again, he leaves the feds unscathed.

The Village Voice sought to harm the group’s reputation by negative implication and innuendo. The story, to me, seemed designed to destroy the Clan’s street credibility not prove any thing about this informant working for the feds against the Clan. If they had done that (proved the informant was working against the Clan) the Village Voice would have proved the existence of COINTELPRO. No, the informant angle is the hook that draws you in to read garbage about the Clan. And I found it very interesting that no one in the community that prides itself on its “consciousness” came to the defense of the Clan, even to intelligently alert the public to the possibility that the Village Voice article may point to something bigger than Wu-Tang.

Lord Michael Caruso & Rza werte also targeted in Village Voice article

This could have helped others even those who I know do not like Wu-Tang personally or what they represent in music or ideology. If you are in the Hip-Hop community, personal dislike of the Clan won’t cut it on this one. The Hip-Hop community owes it to itself to defend itself from what many people, more than just myself, know to be a deliberate attempt to destabilize and destroy the real and potential cultural, economic and political impact of Hip-Hop. From my limited vantage point, everyone seemed caught up in the sensational aspects of the story and not the potential threat it posed to the entire community. This is another aspect of the indolence of the Hip-Hop community that I referred to last week.

I personally served as management to Wu-Tang a couple of years ago. I no longer do so. To the best of my knowledge, which I think is pretty good, the Clan was never involved in any of the criminal activities that they were or are currently under investigation for. I do not and never have, for one moment believed that they are guilty. Of course, I did not see everything that everyone was doing but I am confident that I was certainly in a position to know whether or not a gun-running operation was being organized and ran by the group. I am not afraid to go on public record in defense of the group or the truth of what I know.

But the Federal Government wants to pin these charges on the Clan.

What I can tell you that the Village Voice did not tell you, is that several individuals who have been arrested and/or charged with crimes in New York City and who have never had any affiliation with the group, have been offered reduced sentences or no time at all in exchange for either saying that they were connected with Wu-Tang when they committed their alleged crimes or in exchange for directly infiltrating the music group.

This is a fact. A fact that the Village Voice should know about with all of its connections in the entertainment community and law-enforcement. And these individuals being approached are young Black males not an alleged white informant who is linked to some white mobsters in New York or Miami. That is the real story if the Village Voice is so interested.

The goal of the Federal Government, the FBI included, is to lie and link Wu-Tang and others to a supposed Hip-Hop industry- wide crime network. I know that as early as 1995, several young Black music executives, other than Wu-Tang, and their actual places of business were under surveillance and “investigation” by the Federal Government allegedly for committing various crimes. Not only have individuals under the supervision of the criminal justice system been approached in an effort to make cases against high-profile individuals in the industry but so have white lawyers and white music executives who deal with these individuals. This is common knowledge inside of a few circles in the music industry; even marketing plans of certain artists have been taken by federal investigators. We also know that the IRS has been and is unfairly targeting several Hip-Hop artists and their business enterprises for audits. One day, this will all come out.

For those who persist in wanting to see all crime-fighting efforts as above reproach and legitimate, I can tell you that for whatever illegal activities that may or may not have been perpetrated by various individuals in the music business, the Federal Government has gone above and beyond what is fair in their investigation of the Clan. Asking individuals to straight up lie and say that they are connected to crimes that never occurred and to make up affiliations and even to ask suspects to infiltrate Wu-Tang is not legitimate crime fighting. I also do not see it as simply a case of a “few bad cops”. I see it as a deliberate attempt to destabilize and discredit not only an influential group but also an entire industry and cultural force.

To me, it is certainly reminiscent of COINTELPRO where the goal was not to arrest guilty individuals but to arrest a cultural and political movement. For those who have studied COINTELPRO, it is interesting to learn of all of the Black celebrities and entertainers who have/had government files. I hope everyone in the Hip-Hop community will become much more alert and those who have first-hand knowledge of what I am talking about will begin to compare notes with one another. This isn’t a game or fantasy although some will persist in doubting to the very end. Next week at http://blackelectorate.com/ we will look at some historical evidence that shows that the FBI and CIA used reporters to spread pieces of misinformation to the public and actually helped journalists write false stories. Could this be happening today?

Cedric Muhammad

Friday, June 16, 2000

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Ol’ Dirty Bastard is Really Crazy

Long before Kanye, the late ODB was known for bumrushing stages during award shows. At least ODB said he was doing it for the kids

By now everyone has heard numerous stories about the zanny antics of Wu Tang’s Ol’ Dirty Bastard. Thus far this year he has done everything from bum-rush the stage of the American Music Awards and proclaim that Wu-Tang was for the kids. He also had to respond to a law suit that claimed he had not paid child support for his 13 kids. ODB made headlines when he was shot in the back this year by armed intruders who stormed his Brooklyn apartment. He stunned the world by walking out the hospital within hours of the shooting. He became the talk of the town days later when he went to a sporting goods store in Richmond Virginia and stole a pair of 50 dollar sneakers. A warrant was issued for his arrest and from what I understand-to this day ODB still has not dealt with the matter. I know he has missed a couple of court dates.

Now, while people were recovering from the whole Virginia incident, ODB made headlines again when his jeep was stolen from in front of his recording studio. ODB also shocked the world when he changed his name to Big Baby Jesus. Needless to say, his non-Christ-like behavior angered a lot of church going folks who don’t like taking the Lord’s name in vein.

ODB found himself making headlines when he saved the lives of some kids who were caught inside a burning vehicle. He also made noise when he got himself arrested not once but twice in LA. First he set it off by booted from the House Of Blues nite club after acting ill while in a drunkin’ stupor. He found the handcuffs being slapped on him when he began threatening the security guards. His most recent LA arrest came when he was found scaling the security fence of an ex girlfriends work place. He had threatened to kill her. Prior to all that, ODB shocked folks over in Germany by standing on the balcony of his hotel butt naked. The list of ODB and his antics is a long one indeed. If memory serves me correctly, he was probably arrested close to 10 times over the past year.

Most folks, reading about ODB may think he’s doing all this for publicity. They may think he’s out trying to get a good laugh. Well last week we at KMEL Radio in San Francisco got a chance to see ODB in action for real. He came along with RZA to sit in on Sway‘s afternoon show. He was reeking with alcohol. They had to bleep out all his comments because he kept using profanities. Lucky for Sway he was wise enough to pre-record all the phone calls from fans so he could edit them before they aired.. ODB was off the hook in the studio.

He later on scared the receptionist by first asking for a hug. She attempted to give him a polite hug at which point he grabbed her and tried to ‘feel her up’. He then demanded her phone number and when she repeatedly refused, he got mad and told her he wasn’t impressed by her. He walked away and came back and again demanded a phone number. The receptionist left the office and did not return until he was escorted out the building. He then upset the receptionist from our neighboring radio station which is housed on the same floor by asking if he and her could make babies.

ODB then took it to another level by pulling out an electric stun gun and loudly proclaimed that he was going to take a dump. At that point he walked into the men’s room and proceeded to live up to his words while at the same time he was loudly singin’ for all to hear about his excremental prowess.

ODB left his mark in the city of San Francisco by allegedly stealing a leather jacket from a local record store and a pair of sun glasses from another locale. He was not caught and apprehended for any of these incidents. To put it simply, ODB is definitely on some different stuff. He for one without a doubt has a serious drinking problem. Hopefully he straightens up before he seriously hurts some one or some one hurts him..

Davey D
c 1998

 

Ol Dirty Bastard is Really Crazy

OL’ DIRTY BASTARD IS REALLY CRAZY
by – Davey D
11/24/98 10:12:14 AM

ol dirty bastardBy now everyone has heard numerous stories about the zanny antics of
Wu Tang’s Ol’ Dirty Bastard. Thus far this year he has done everything
from bum-rush the stage of the American Music Awards and proclaim that Wu-Tang was for the kids. He also had to respond to a law suit that claimed he had not paid child support for his 13 kids. ODB made headlines when he was shot in the back this year by armed intruders who stormed his Brooklyn apartment. He stunned the world by walking out the hospital within hours of the shooting. He became the talk of the town days later when he went to a sporting goods store in Richmond Virginia and stole a pair of 50 dollar sneakers. A warrant was issued for his arrest and from what I understand-to this day ODB still has not dealt with the matter. I know he has missed a couple of court dates.Now, while people were recovering from the whole Virginia incident, ODB made headlines again when his jeep was stolen from in front of his recording studio. ODB also shocked the world when he changed his name to Big Baby Jesus. Needless to say, his non-Christ-like behavior angered a lot of church going folks who don’t like taking the Lord’s name in vein.

ODB found himself making headlines when he saved the lives of some kids who were caught inside a burning vehicle. He also made noise when he got himself arrested not once but twice in LA. First he set it off by booted from the House Of Blues nite club after acting ill while in a drunkin’ stupor. He found the handcuffs being slapped on him when he began threatening the security guards. His most recent LA arrest came when he was found scaling the security fence of an ex girlfriends work place. He had threatened to kill her. Prior to all that, ODB shocked folks over in Germany by standing on the balcony of his hotel butt naked. The list of ODB and his antics is a long one indeed. If memory serves me correctly, he was probably arrested close to 10 times over the past year.

Most folks, reading about ODB may think he’s doing all this for publicity. They may think he’s out trying to get a good laugh. Well last week we at KMEL Radio in San Francisco got a chance to see ODB in action for real. He came along with RZA to sit in on Sway‘s afternoon show. He was reeking with alcohol. They had to bleep out all his comments because he kept using profanities. Lucky for Sway he was wise enough to pre-record all the phone calls from fans so he could edit them before they aired.. ODB was off the hook in the studio.

He later on scared the receptionist by first asking for a hug. She attempted to give him a polite hug at which point he grabbed her and tried to ‘feel her up’. He then demanded her phone number and when she repeatedly refused, he got mad and told her he wasn’t impressed by her. He walked away and came back and again demanded a phone number. The receptionist left the office and did not return until he was escorted out the building. He then upset the receptionist from our neighboring radio station which is housed on the same floor by asking if he and her could make babies.

ODB then took it to another level by pulling out an electric stun gun and loudly proclaimed that he was going to take a dump. At that point he walked into the men’s room and proceeded to live up to his words while at the same time he was loudly singin’ for all to hear about his excremental prowess.

ODB left his mark in the city of San Francisco by allegedly stealing a leather jacket from a local record store and a pair of sun glasses from another locale. He was not caught and apprehended for any of these incidents. To put it simply, ODB is definitely on some different stuff. He for one without a doubt has a serious drinking problem. Hopefully he straightens up before he seriously hurts some one or some one hurts him..

Davey D
c 1998

 

Ole Dirty Bastard Arrested Again

ol dirty bastard

Hip Hop’s most notorious bad boy Ol’ Dirty Bastard has had happened to him what has taken place at least ten times this year.. He was arrested. This all took place last Thursday in Carson, California.

According to authorities, ODB had threatened to kill his ex-girlfriend. When sheriff deputies caught up with him, he was found scaling the security gate to his ex’s job local.What makes ODB’s situation so interesting is the number of times he has been arrested this year.

One would think that he would be locked up considering all the charges that have been levied against him. There are numerous people who get pulled over and are sent away for not paying off a speeding ticket or some other ‘minor’ infraction. With ODB he’s had all sorts of charges ranging from assault to robbery to failure to appear and yet he still manages to get out and get himself rearrested. The other thing that people are speculating on is whether or not all these run ins with the law are publicity stunts..