From: Christopher Jordan Dorner /7648
To: America
Subj: Last resort
Regarding CF# 07-004281
Christopher Dorner w/ Chief William Bratton
I know most of you who personally know me are in disbelief to hear from media reports that I am suspected of committing such horrendous murders and have taken drastic and shocking actions in the last couple of days. You are saying to yourself that this is completely out of character of the man you knew who always wore a smile wherever he was seen. I know I will be villified by the LAPD and the media.
Unfortunately, this is a necessary evil that I do not enjoy but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the LAPD and reclaim my name. The department has not changed since the Rampart and Rodney King days. It has gotten worse. The consent decree should never have been lifted. The only thing that has evolved from the consent decree is those officers involved in the Rampart scandal and Rodney King incidents have since promoted to supervisor, commanders, and command staff, and executive positions.
The question is, what would you do to clear your name?
Name;
A word or set of words by which a person, animal, place, or thing is known, addressed, or referred to.
Name Synonyms;
reputation, title, appellation, denomination, repute.
A name is more than just a noun, verb, or adjective. It’s your life, your legacy, your journey, sacrifices, and everything you’ve worked hard for every day of your life as and adolescent, young adult and adult. Don’t let anybody tarnish it when you know you’ve live up to your own set of ethics and personal ethos.
In 8/07 I reported an officer (Ofcr. Teresa Evans/now a Sergeant), for kicking a suspect (excessive force) during a Use of Force while I was assigned as a patrol officer at LAPD’s Harbor Division. While cuffing the suspect, (Christopher Gettler), Evans kicked the suspect twice in the chest and once in the face. The kick to the face left a visible injury on the left cheek below the eye. Unfortunately after reporting it to supervisors and investigated by PSB (internal affairs investigator Det. Villanueva/Gallegos), nothing was done. I had broken their supposed “Blue Line”.
Unfortunately, It’s not JUST US, it’s JUSTICE!!! In fact, 10 months later on 6/25/08, after already successfully completing probation, acquiring a basic Post Certificate, and Intermediate Post Certificate, I was relieved of duty by the LAPD while assigned to patrol at Southwest division. It is clear as day that the department retaliated toward me for reporting Evans for kicking Mr. Christopher Gettler. The department stated that I had lied and made up the report that Evans had kicked the suspect.
I later went to a Board of Rights (department hearing for decision of continued employment) from 10/08 to 1/09. During this BOR hearing a video was played for the BOR panel where Christopher Gettler stated that he was indeed kicked by Officer Evans (video sent to multiple news agencies). In addition to Christopher Gettler stating he was kicked, his father Richard Gettler, also stated that his son had stated he was kicked by an officer when he was arrested after being released from custody. This was all presented for the department at the BOR hearing. They still found me guilty and terminated me.
What they didn’t mention was that the BOR panel made up of Capt. Phil Tingirides, Capt. Justin Eisenberg, and City Attorney Martella had a signigicant problem from the time the board was assembled. Capt. Phil Tingirides was a personal friend of Teresa Evans from when he was her supervisor at Harbor station. That is a clear conflict of interest and I made my argument for his removal early and was denied. The advocate for the LAPD BOR was Sgt. Anderson. Anderson also had a conflict of interest as she was Evans friend and former partner from Harbor division where they both worked patrol together. I made my argument for her removal when I discovered her relation to Evans and it was denied.
During the BOR, the department attempted to label me unsuccessfully as a bully. They stated that I had bullied a recruit, Abraham Schefres, in the academy when in reality and unfounded disposition from the official 1.28 formal complaint investigation found that I was the one who stood up for Abraham Schefres when other recruits sang nazi hitler youth songs about burning Jewish ghettos in WWII Germany where his father was a survivor of a concentration camp. How fucking dare you attempt to label me with such a nasty vile word. I ask that all earnest journalist investigating this story ask Ofcr. Abraham Schefres about the incident when Ofcr. Burdios began singing a nazi youth song about burning jewish ghettos.
The internal affairs investigation in the academy involving Schefres was spurned by a complaint that I had initiated toward two fellow recruit/offifcers. While on a assigned patrol footbeat in Hollywood Division, Officers Hermilio Buridios IV and Marlon Magana (both current LAPD officers) decided that they would voice their personal feelings about the black community. While traveling back to the station in a 12 passenger van I heard Magana refer to another individual as a nigger. I wasn’t sure if I heard correctly as there were many conversations in the van that was compiled of at least 8 officers and he was sitting in the very rear and me in the very front.
Even with the multiple conversations and ambient noise I heard Officer Magana call an indivdual a nigger again. Now that I had confirmed it, I told Magana not to use that word again. I explained that it was a well known offensive word that should not be used by anyone. He replied, “I’ll say it when I want”. Officer Burdios, a friend of his, also stated that he would say nigger when he wanted. At that point I jumped over my front passenger seat and two other officers where I placed my hands around Burdios’ neck and squeezed. I stated to Burdios, “Don’t fucking say that”. At that point there was pushing and shoving and we were separated by several other officers. What I should have done, was put a Winchester Ranger SXT 9mm 147 grain bullet in his skull and Officer Magana’s skull.
The Situation would have been resolved effective, immediately. The sad thing about this incident was that when Detective Ty from internal affairs investigated this incident only (1) officer (unknown) in the van other than myself had statements constistent with what actually happened. The other six officers (John Carey, Gary Parker, Jacob Waks, Abraham Schefres and names I have forgotten) all stated they heard nothing and saw nothing. Shame on every one of you. Shame on Detective Ty (same ethnicity as Burdios) for creating a separate 1.28 formal complaint against me (Schefres complaint) in retaliation for initiating the complaint against Burdios and Magana. Don’t retaliate against honest officers for breaking your so called blue line.
I hope your son Ryan Ty, who I knew, is a better officer than you, Detective Ty.The saddest part of this ordeal was that Officer Burdios and Magana were only given 22 day suspensions and are still LAPD officers to this day. That day, the LAPD stated that it is acceptable for fellow officers to call black officers niggers to their face and you will receive a slap on the wrist. Even sadder is that during that 22 day suspension Buridios and Magana received is that the LAPPL (Los Angeles Police Protective League) paid the officers their salaries while they were suspended. When I took a two day suspension for an accidental discharge, I took my suspension and never applied for a league salary. Its called integrity.
Journalist, I want you to investigate every location I resided in growing up. Find any incidents where I was ever accused of being a bully. You won’t, because it doesn’t exist. It’s not in my DNA. Never was. I was the only black kid in each of my elementary school classes from first grade to seventh grade in junior high and any instances where I was disciplined for fighting was in response to fellow students provoking common childhood schoolyard fights, or calling me a nigger or other derogatory racial names. I grew up in neighborhoods where blacks make up less than 1%. My first recollection of racism was in the first grade at Norwalk Christian elementary school in Norwalk, CA. A fellow student, Jim Armstrong if I can recall, called me a nigger on the playground. My response was swift and non-lethal. I struck him fast and hard with a punch an kick. He cried and reported it to a teacher. The teacher reported it to the principal. The principal swatted Jim for using a derogatory word toward me. He then for some unknown reason swatted me for striking Jim in response to him calling me a nigger. He stated as good Christians we are to turn the other cheek as Jesus did. Problem is, I’m not a fucking Christian and that old book, made of fiction and limited non-fiction, called the bible, never once stated Jesus was called a nigger. How dare you swat me for standing up for my rights for demanding that I be treated as a equal human being. That day I made a life decision that i will not tolerate racial derogatory terms spoken to me. Unfortunately I was swatted multiple times for the same exact reason up until junior high. Terminating me for telling the truth of a caucasian officer kicking a mentally ill man is disgusting. Don’t ever call me a fucking bully. I want all journalist to utilize every source you have that specializes in collections for your reports. With the discovery and evidence available you will see the truth. Unfortunately, I will not be alive to see my name cleared. That’s what this is about, my name. A man is nothing without his name. Below is a list of locations where I resided from childhood to adulthood.
Cerritos, CA.
Pico Rivera, CA.
La Palma, CA.
Thousand Oaks, CA.
Cedar City, UT.
Pensacola, FL.
Enid, OK.
Yorba Linda, CA.
Las Vegas, NV.
During the BOR an officer named, Sgt. Hernandez, from Los Angeles Port Police testified on behalf of the LAPD. Hernandez stated for the BOR that he arrived at the location of the UOF shortly before I cuffed the suspect. He also stated that he assisted in cuffing the suspect and that’s old the BOR he told me to fix my tie. All of those statements were LIES!!! Hernandez, you arrived at the UOF location up to 30 seconds after I had cuffed Mr. Gettler. All you did was help me lift the suspect to his feet as it was difficult for me to do by myself because of his heavy weight. You did not tell me to fix my tie as the BOR members and everyone else in the room know you lied because the photographic evidence from the UOF scene where Gettler’s injuries were photographed clearly shows me wearing a class B uniform on that day. A class B uniform is a short sleeved uniform blouse. A short sleeved uniform blouse for the LAPD does not have a tie included. This is not Super Troopers uniform, you jackass. Why did you feel the need to embellish and lie about your involvement in the UOF? Are you ashamed that you could not get hired on by any other department other than port police? Do you have delusions of grandeur? What you did was perjury, exactly what Evans did when she stated she did not kick Christopher Gettler.
What they failed to mention in the BOR was Teresa Evans own use of force history during her career on the LAPD. She has admitted that she has a lengthy use of force record and has been flagged several times by risk management. She has a very well known nickname, Chupacabra, which she was very proud to flaunt around the division. She found it very funny and entertaining to draw blood from suspects and arrestees. At one point she even intentionally ripped the flesh off the arm of a woman we had arrested for battery (sprayed her neighbor with a garden water hose). Knowing the woman had thin elastic skin, she performed and Indian burn to the woman’s arm after cuffing her. That woman was in her mid-70′s, a mother and grandmother, and was angry at her tenants who failed to pay rent on time. Something I can completely understand and I am sure many have wanted to do toward tenants who do not pay their rent. Teresa Evans was also demoted from a senior lead officer rank/position for performance issues. During my two months of working patrol with Teresa Evans, I found her as a woman who was very angry that she had been pulled from patrol for a short time because of a domestic violence report made by Long Beach Police Department because of an incident involving her active LAPD officer boyfriend, Dominick Fuentes, and herself. Dominick Fuentes is the same officer investigated for witness tampering. She also was visibly angry on a daily basis that she was going to have to file for bankruptcy because her ex-husband, a former LAPD officer and not Dominick Fuentes, who had left the department, state, and was nowhere to be found had left her with a tax bill and debt that she was unable to pay because of a lack of financial means. Evans, you are a POS and you lied right to the BOR panel when Randy Quan asked you if you kicked Christopher Gettler. You destroyed my life and name because of your actions. Time is up. The time is now to confess to Chief Beck.
I ask that all journalist investigating this story submit request for FOIA with the LAPD to gain access to the BOR transcripts which occurred from 10/08 to 2/09. There, you will see that a video was played for the BOR members of Mr. Christopher Gettler who suffers from Schizophrenia and Dementia stating that he was kicked by a female officer. That video evidence supports my claim that Evans kicked him twice in the upper body and once in the face. I would like all journalist to also request copies of all reports that I had written while employed by LAPD. Whether in the academy, or during my 3 years as a police officer. There are DR#’s attached to each report (investigative report) that I have ever written so they all exist. A FOIA request will most likely be needed to access these at Parker center or at the Personnel/Records. Judge my writin/grammar skills for yourself. The department attempted to paint me as an officer who could not write reports. Even though Sgt. Joel Sydanmaa a training officer who trained me stated for the BOR panel that there was nothing wrong with my report writing and that I was better than all rookie/probationer officers he has ever trained. Officer David Drew stated the same but refused to testify as he did not want to “get involved” with the BOR’s. Contact Sgt. Donald Deming ,(now a Captain at Lompoc PD), Sgt. Thaddeus Faulk, and Sgt. Ed Clark. All will state that my report writing was impeccable. I will tell you this, I always type my reports because I have messy handwriting/penmanship. I never had a single kickback/redlined report at Southwest division and Sgt. Faulk and Sgt. Clark can testify to that. I never received an UNSATISFACTORY on any day or week. The same can be said within the U.S. Naval Reserves. All commanders will state that my report writing was always clear, concise, and impeccable. Even search my AAR (after action reports),chits, Memorandum’s, IIR’s (Intelligence Information Reports) which were written in the Navy. All were pristine.
I had worked patrol at LAPD’s Harbor Division from 2/06 until 7/06 when I was involuntarily recalled back to active duty (US Navy) for a 12 month mobilization/deployment to Centcom in support of OIF/OEF. I returned back to LAPD’s Harbor division on 7/07 and immediately returned to patrol. I worked at Harbor division until 11/07 where I then transferred to Southwest Division. I worked At Southwest division until 6/25/08 when I was relieved of duty.
I have exhausted all available means at obtaining my name back. I have attempted all legal court efforts within appeals at the Superior Courts and California Appellate courts. This is my last resort. The LAPD has suppressed the truth and it has now lead to deadly consequences. The LAPD’s actions have cost me my law enforcement career that began on 2/7/05 and ended on 1/2/09. They cost me my Naval career which started on 4/02 and ends on 2/13. I had a TS/SCI clearance(Top Secret Sensitive Compartmentalized Information clearance) up until shortly after my termination with LAPD. This is the highest clearance a service member can attain other than a Yankee White TS/SCI which is only granted for those working with and around the President/Vice President of the United States. I lost my position as a Commanding Officer of a Naval Security Forces reserve unit at NAS Fallon because of the LAPD. I’ve lost a relationship with my mother and sister because of the LAPD. I’ve lost a relationship with close friends because of the LAPD. In essence, I’ve lost everything because the LAPD took my name and new I was INNOCENT!!! Capt Phil Tingirides, Justin Eisenberg, Martella, Randy Quan, and Sgt. Anderson all new I was innocent but decided to terminate me so they could continue Ofcr. Teresa Evans career. I know about the meeting between all of you where Evans attorney, Rico, confessed that she kicked Christopher Gettler (excessive force). Your day has come.
I’m not an aspiring rapper, I’m not a gang member, I’m not a dope dealer, I don’t have multiple babies momma’s. I am an American by choice, I am a son, I am a brother, I am a military service member, I am a man who has lost complete faith in the system, when the system betrayed, slandered, and libeled me. I lived a good life and though not a religious man I always stuck to my own personal code of ethics, ethos and always stuck to my shoreline and true North. I didn’t need the US Navy to instill Honor, Courage, and Commitment in me but I thank them for re-enforcing it. It’s in my DNA.
Luckily I don’t have to live everyday like most of you. Concerned if the misconduct you were apart of is going to be discovered. Looking over your shoulder, scurrying at every phone call from internal affairs or from the Captains office wondering if that is the day PSB comes after you for the suspects you struck when they were cuffed months/years ago or that $500 you pocketed from the narcotics dealer, or when the other guys on your watch beat a transient nearly to death and you never reported the UOF to the supervisor. No, I don’t have that concern, I stood up for what was right but unfortunately have dealt with the reprocussions of doing the right thing and now losing my name and everything I ever stood for. You fuckers knew Evans was guilty of kicking (excessive force) Gettler and you did nothing but get rid of what you saw as the problem, the whistleblower. Gettler himself stated on video tape ( provided for the BOR and in transcripts) he was kicked and even his father stated that his son said he was kicked by Evans when he was released from custody. The video was played for the entire BOR to hear. Tingirides, Eisenberg, and Martella all heard it. You’re going to see what a whistleblower can do when you take everything from him especially his NAME!!!
Look what you did to Sgt. Gavin (now lieutenant) when he exposed the truth of your lying, racism, and PSB cover-ups to frame and convict an innocent man. You can not police yourselves and the consent decree was unsuccessful. Sgt. Gavin, I met you on the range several times as a recruit and as an officer. You’re a good man and I saw it in your eyes an actions.
Self Preservation is no longer important to me. I do not fear death as I died long ago on 1/2/09. I was told by my mother that sometimes bad things happen to good people. I refuse to accept that.
From 2/05 to 1/09 I saw some of the most vile things humans can inflict on others as a police officer in Los Angeles. Unfortunately, it wasn’t in the streets of LA. It was in the confounds of LAPD police stations and shops (cruisers). The enemy combatants in LA are not the citizens and suspects, it’s the police officers.
People who live in glass houses should not throw stones. How ironic that you utilize a fixed glass structure as your command HQ. You use as a luminous building to symbolize that you are transparent, have nothing to hide, or suppress when in essence, concealing, omitting, and obscuring is your forte.
Chief Beck, this is when you need to have that come to Jesus talk with Sgt. Teresa Evans and everyone else who was involved in the conspiracy to have me terminated for doing the right thing. you also need to speak with her attorney, Rico, and his conversation with the BOR members and her confession of guilt in kicking Mr. Gettler. I’ll be waiting for a PUBLIC response at a press conference. When the truth comes out, the killing stops.
Why didn’t you charge me with filing a false police report when I came forward stating that Evans kicked Mr. Christopher Gettler? You file criminal charges against every other officer who is accused and terminated for filing a false police report. You didn’t because you knew I was innocent and a criminal court would find me innocent and expose your department for suppressing the truth and retaliation, that’s why.
The attacks will stop when the department states the truth about my innocence, PUBLICLY!!! I will not accept any type of currency/goods in exchange for the attacks to stop, nor do i want it. I want my name back, period. There is no negotiation. I am not the state department who states they do not negotiate with terrorist, because anybody with a Secret or TS/SCI has seen IIR’s on SIPR and knows that the US state department always negotiates by using CF countries or independent sovereign/neutral country to mediate and compromising.
This department has not changed from the Daryl Gates and Mark Fuhrman days. Those officers are still employed and have all promoted to Command staff and supervisory positions. I will correct this error. Are you aware that an officer (a rookie/probationer at the time) seen on the Rodney King videotape striking Mr. King multiple times with a baton on 3/3/91 is still employed by the LAPD and is now a Captain on the police department? Captain Rolando Solano is now the commanding officer of a LAPD police station (West LA division). As a commanding officer, he is now responsible for over 200 officers. Do you trust him to enforce department policy and investigate use of force investigations on arrestees by his officers? Are you aware Evans has since promoted to Sergeant after kicking Mr. Gettler in the face. Oh, you Violated a citizens civil rights? We will promote you. Same as LAPD did with the the officers from Metro involved in the May Day melee at MacArthur Park. They promoted them to Sergeant (a supervisor role).
No one is saying you can’t be prejudiced or a bigot. We are all human and hold prejudices. If you state that you don’t have prejudices, your lying! But, when you act on it and victimize innocent citizens and fellow innocen officers, than that is a concern.
For you officers who do the job in the name of JUSTICE, those of you who lost honest officers to this event, look at the name of those on the BOR and the investigating officers from PSB and Evans and ask them, how come you couldn’t tell the truth? Why did you terminate an honest officer and cover for a dishonest officer who victimized a mentally ill citizen.
Sometimes humans feel a need to prove they are the dominant race of a species and they inadvertently take kindness for weakness from another individual. You chose wrong.
Terminating officers because they expose a culture of lying, racism (from the academy), and excessive use of force will immediately change. PSB can not police their own and that has been proven. The blue line will forever be severed and a cultural change will be implanted. You have awoken a sleeping giant.
I am here to change and make policy. The culture of LAPD versus the community and honest/good officers needs to and will change. I am here to correct and calibrate your morale compasses to true north.
Those Caucasian officers who join South Bureau divisions (77th,SW,SE, an Harbor) with the sole intent to victimize minorities who are uneducated, and unaware of criminal law, civil law, and civil rights. You prefer the South bureau because a use of force/deadly force is likely and the individual you use UOF on will likely not report it. You are a high value target.
Those Black officers in supervisory ranks and pay grades who stay in south bureau (even though you live in the valley or OC) for the sole intent of getting retribution toward subordinate caucasians officers for the pain and hostile work environment their elders inflicted on you as probationers (P-1′s) and novice P-2′s. You are a high value target. You perpetuated the cycle of racism in the department as well. You breed a new generation of bigoted caucasian officer when you belittle them and treat them unfairly.
Those Hispanic officers who victimize their own ethnicity because they are new immigrants to this country and are unaware of their civil rights. You call them wetbacks to their face and demean them in front of fellow officers of different ethnicities so that you will receive some sort of acceptance from your colleagues. I’m not impressed. Most likely, your parents or grandparents were immigrants at one time, but you have forgotten that. You are a high value target.
Those lesbian officers in supervising positions who go to work, day in day out, with the sole intent of attempting to prove your misandrist authority (not feminism) to degrade male officers. You are a high value target.
Those Asian officers who stand by and observe everything I previously mentioned other officers participate in on a daily basis but you say nothing, stand for nothing and protect nothing. Why? Because of your usual saying, ” I……don’t like conflict”. You are a high value target as well.
Those of you who “go along to get along” have no backbone and destroy the foundation of courage. You are the enablers of those who are guilty of misconduct. You are just as guilty as those who break the code of ethics and oath you swore.
Citizens/non-combatants, do not render medical aid to downed officers/enemy combatants. They would not do the same for you. They will let you bleed out just so they can brag to other officers that they had a 187 caper the other day and can’t wait to accrue the overtime in future court subpoenas. As they always say, “that’s the paramedics job…not mine”. Let the balance of loss of life take place. Sometimes a reset needs to occur.
It is endless the amount of times per week officers arrest an individual, label him a suspect-arrestee-defendant and then before arraignment or trial realize that he is innocent based on evidence. You know what they say when they realize an innocent man just had his life turned upside down?. “I guess he should have stayed at home that day he was discovered walking down the street and matching the suspects description. Oh well, he appeared to be a dirtbag anyways”. Meanwhile the falsely accused is left to pick up his life, get a new, family, friends, and sense of self worth.
Don’t honor these fallen officers/dirtbags. When your family members die, they just see you as extra overtime at a crime scene and at a perimeter. Why would you value their lives when they clearly don’t value yours or your family members lives? I’ve heard many officers who state they see dead victims as ATV’s, Waverunners, RV’s and new clothes for their kids. Why would you shed a tear for them when they in return crack a smile for your loss because of the impending extra money they will receive in their next paycheck for sitting at your loved ones crime scene of 6 hours because of the overtime they will accrue. They take photos of your loved ones recently deceased bodies with their cellphones and play a game of who has the most graphic dead body of the night with officers from other divisions. This isn’t just the 20 something year old officers, this is the 50 year old officers with significant time on the job as well who participate.
You allow an officer, Thaniya Sungruenyos, to attempt to hack into my credit union account and still remain on the job even when Det. Zolezzi shows the evidence that the IP address (provided by LAPFCU) that attempted to hack into my account and change my username and password leads directly to her residence. You even allow this visibly disgusting looking officer to stay on the job when she perjures (lies) in court (Clark County Family Court) to the judge’s face and denies hacking into my personal credit union online account when I attempted to get my restraint order extended. Det. Zolezzi provided the evidence and you still do nothing.
How do you know when a police officer is lying??? When he begins his sentence with, “based on my experience and training”.
No one grows up and wants to be a cop killer. It was against everything I’ve ever was. As a young police explorer I found my calling in life. But, As a young police officer I found that the violent suspects on the street are not the only people you have to watch. It is the officer who was hired on to the department (pre-2000) before polygraphs were standard for all new hires and an substantial vetting in a backround investigation.
To those children of the officers who are eradicated, your parent was not the individual you thought they were. As you get older,you will see the evidence that your parent was a tyrant who loss their ethos and instead followed the path of moral corruptness. They conspired to hide and suppress the truth of misconduct on others behalf’s. Your parent will have a name and plaque on the fallen officers memorial in D.C. But, In all honesty, your parents name will be a reminder to other officers to maintain the oath they swore and to stay along the shoreline that has guided them from childhood to that of a local, state, or federal law enforcement officer.
Bratton, Beck, Hayes, Tingirides, Eisenberg, Martella, Quan, Evans, Hernandez, Villanueva/Gallegos, and Anderson. Your lack of ethics and conspiring to wrong a just individual are over.
Suppressing the truth will leave to deadly consequences for you and your family. There will be an element of surprise where you work, live, eat, and sleep. I will utilize ISR at your home, workplace, and all locations in between. I will utilize OSINT to discover your residences, spouses workplaces, and children’s schools. IMINT to coordinate and plan attacks on your fixed locations. Its amazing whats on NIPR. HUMINT will be utilized to collect personal schedules of targets. I never had the opportunity to have a family of my own, I’m terminating yours. Quan, Anderson, Evans, and BOR members Look your wives/husbands and surviving children directly in the face and tell them the truth as to why your children are dead.
Never allow a LAPPL union attorney to be a retired LAPD Captain,(Quan). He doesn’t work for you, your interest, or your name. He works for the department, period. His job is to protect the department from civil lawsuits being filed and their best interest which is the almighty dollar. His loyalty is to the department, not his client. Even when he knowingly knows your innocent and the BOR also knows your innocent after Christopher Gettler stated on videotape that he was kicked and Evans attorney confessed to the BOR off the record that she kicked Gettler.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants-TJ. This quote is not directed toward the US government which I fully support 100%. This is toward the LAPD who can not monitor itself. The consent decree should not have been lifted, ever.
I know your TTP’s, (techniques, tactics, and procedures). Any threat assessments you you generate will be useless. This is simple, I know your TTP’s and PPR’s. I will mitigate any of your attempts at preservation. ORM is my friend. I will mitigate all risks, threats and hazards. I assure you that Incident Command Posts will be target rich environments. KMA-367 license plate frames are great target indicators and make target selection even easier.
I will conduct DA operations to destroy, exploit and seize designated targets. If unsuccessful or unable to meet objectives in these initial small scale offensive actions, I will reassess my BDA and re-attack until objectives are met. I have nothing to lose. My personal casualty means nothing. Just alike AAF’s, ACM’s, and AIF’s, you can not prevail against an enemy combatant who has no fear of death. An enemy who embraces death is a lose, lose situation for their enemy combatants.
Hopefully you analyst have done your homework. You are aware that I have always been the top shot, highest score, an expert in rifle qualifications in every unit I’ve been in. I will utilize every bit of small arms training, demolition, ordnance, and survival training I’ve been given.
Do you know why we are unsuccessful in asymmetrical and guerrilla warfare in CENTCOM theatre of operations? I’ll tell you. It’s not the inefficiency of our combatant commanders, planning, readiness or training of troops. Much like the Vietnam war, ACM, AAF, foreign fighters, Jihadist, and JAM have nothing to lose. They embrace death as it is a way of life. I simply don’t fear it. I am the walking exigent circumstance you created.
The Violence of action will be HIGH. I am the reason TAC alert was established. I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty. ISR is my strength and your weakness. You will now live the life of the prey. Your RD’s and homes away from work will be my AO and battle space. I will utilize every tool within INT collections that I learned from NMITC in Dam Neck. You have misjudged a sleeping giant. There is no conventional threat assessment for me. JAM, New Ba’ath party, 1920 rev BGE, ACM, AAF, AQAP, AQIM and AQIZ have nothing on me. Do not deploy airships or gunships. SA-7 Manpads will be waiting. As you know I also own Barrett .50′s so your APC are defunct and futile.
You better have all your officers radio/phone muster (code 1) on or off duty every hour, on the hour.
Do not attempt to shadow or conduct any type of ISR on me. I have the inventory listing of all UC vehicles at Piper Tech and the home addresses of any INT analyst at JRIC and detachment locations. My POA is always POI and always true. This will be a war of attrition and a Pyrrhic and Camdean Victory for myself. You may have the resources and manpower but you are reactive and predictable in your op plans and TTP’s. I have the strength and benefits of being unpredictable, unconventional, and unforgiving. Do not waste your time with briefs and tabletops.
Whatever pre-planned responses you have established for a scenario like me, shelve it. Whatever contingency plan you have, shelve it. Whatever tertiary plan you’ve created, shelve it. I am a walking exigent circumstance with no OFF or reset button. JRIC, DOJ, LASD, FBI and other local LE can’t assist and should not involve themselves in a matter that does not concern them. For all other agencies, do not involve yourself in this capture or recovery of me. Look at the big picture of the situation. They (LAPD) created the situation. I will harm no outside agency unless it is a deadly force/IDOL situation. With today’s budgeting and fiscal mess, you guys can not afford lose several officers to IOD or KIA/EOW. Plus, other officers should not have to take on the additional duties and responsibilities of dead officers. Think about their families, outside agencies, Chiefs/Directors.
Outside agencies and individual officers on patrol. If you recognize my vehicle, and confirm it is my vehicle thru a dmv/want warrant check. It behoves you to respond to dispatch that your query was for information purposes only. If you proceed with a traffic stop or attempt to notify other officers of my location or for backup you will not live to see the medal of valor you were hoping to receive for your actions. Think before you attempt to intervene. You will not survive. Your family will receive that medal of valor posthumously. It will gather dust on the fireplace mantel for years. Then one day, it will go in a shoe box with other memories. Your mother will lose a son or daughter. Your significant other will be left alone, but they will find someone else to fill your void in the future and make them just as happy. Your children, if you have them, will call someone else mommy or daddy. Don’t be selfish. Your vest is only a level II or IIIA, think about it.
No amount of IMINT, MASINT, and ELINT assist you in capturing me. I am off the grid. You better use your feet, tongue and every available DOD/ NON-DOD HUMINT agency, contractor to find me. I know your route to and from home, and your division. I know your significant others routine, your children’s best friends and recess. I know Your Sancha’s gym hours and routine. I assure you that the casualty rate will be high. Because of that, no one will remember your name. You will merely be a DR# and “that guy” who was KIA/EOW or long term IOD/light duty in the kit room. This is exactly why “station 500″ was created. Unfortunately, orphanages will be making a comeback in the 21st century.
If you had a well regulated AWB, this would not happen. The time is now to reinstitute a ban that will save lives. Why does any sportsman need a 30 round magazine for hunting? Why does anyone need a suppressor? Why does anyone need a AR15 rifle? This is the same small arms weapons system utilized in eradicating Al Qaeda, Taliban, and every enemy combatant since the Vietnam war. Don’t give me that crap that its not a select fire or full auto rifle like the DoD uses. That’s bullshit because troops who carry the M-4/M-16 weapon system for combat ops outside the wire rarely utilize the select fire function when in contact with enemy combatants. The use of select fire probably isn’t even 1% in combat. So in essence, the AR-15 semiautomatic rifle is the same as the M-4/M-16. These do not need to be purchased as easily as walking to your local Walmart or striking the enter key on your keyboard to “add to cart”. All the firearms utilized in my activities are registered to me and were legally purchased at gun stores and private party transfers. All concealable weapons (pistols) were also legally register in my name at police stations or FFL’s. Unfortunately, are you aware that I obtained class III weapons (suppressors) without a background check thru NICS or DROS completely LEGALLY several times? I was able to use a trust account that I created on quicken will maker and a $10 notary charge at a mailbox etc. to obtain them legally. Granted, I am not a felon, nor have a DV misdemeanor conviction or active TRO against me on a NCIC file. I can buy any firearm I want, but should I be able to purchase these class III weapons (SBR’s, and suppressors) without a background check and just a $10 notary signature on a quicken will maker program? The answer is NO. I’m not even a resident of the state i purchased them in. Lock n Load just wanted money so they allow you to purchase class III weapons with just a notarized trust, military ID. Shame on you, Lock n Load. NFA and ATF need new laws and policies that do not allow loopholes such as this. In the end, I hope that you will realize that the small arms I utilize should not be accessed with the ease that I obtained them. Who in there right mind needs a fucking silencer!!! who needs a freaking SBR AR15? No one. No more Virginia Tech, Columbine HS, Wisconsin temple, Aurora theatre, Portland malls, Tucson rally, Newtown Sandy Hook. Whether by executive order or thru a bi-partisan congress an assault weapons ban needs to be re-instituted. Period!!!
Mia Farrow said it best. “Gun control is no longer debatable, it’s not a conversation, its a moral mandate.”
Sen. Feinstein, you are doing the right thing in leading the re-institution of a national AWB. Never again should any public official state that their prayers and thoughts are with the family. That has become cliche’ and meaningless. Its time for action. Let this be your legacy that you bestow to America. Do not be swayed by obstacles, antagaonist, and naysayers. Remember the innocent children at Austin, Kent, Stockton, Fullerton, San Diego, Iowa City, Jonesboro, Columbine, Nickel Mines, Blacksburg, Springfield, Red Lake, Chardon, Aurora, and Newtown. Make sure this never happens again!!!
In my cache you will find several small arms. In the cache, Bushmaster firearms, Remington precision rifles, and AAC Suppressors (silencers). All of these small arms are manufactured by Cerberus/Freedom Group. The same company responsible for the Portland mall shooting, Webster , NY, and Sandy Hook massacre.
You disrespect the office of the POTUS/Presidency and Commander in Chief. You call him Kenyan, mongroid, halfrican, muslim, and FBHO when in essence you are to address him as simply, President. The same as you did to President George W. Bush and all those in the highest ranking position of our land before him. Just as I always have. You question his birth certificate, his educational and professional accomplishments, and his judeo-christian beliefs. You make disparaging remarks about his dead parents. You never questioned the fact that his former opponent, the honorable Senator John McCain, was not born in the CONUS or that Bush had a C average in his undergrad. Electoral Candidates children (Romney) state they want to punch the president in the face during debates with no formal repercussions. No one even questioned the fact that the son just made a criminal threat toward the President. You call his wife a Wookie. Off the record, I love your new bangs, Mrs. Obama. A woman whose professional and educational accomplishments are second to none when compared to recent First wives. You call his supporters, whether black, brown, yellow, or white, leeches, FSA, welfare recipients, and ni$&er lovers. You say this openly without any discretion. Before you start with your argument that you believe I would vote for Obama because he has the same skin color as me, fuck you. I didn’t vote in this last election as my choice of candidate, John Huntsman, didn’t win the primary candidacy for his party. Mr. President, I haven’t agreed with all of your decisions but of course I haven’t agreed with all of your predecessors decisions. I think you’ve done a hell of a job with what you have been dealt and how you have managed it. I shed a tear the night you were initially elected President in 2008. I never thought that day would occur. A black man elected president in the U.S. in my lifetime. I cracked a smiled when you were re-elected in 2012 because I really didn’t think you were going to pull that one off. Romney, stop being a sore loser. You could’ve exited graciously and still contributed significantly to public service, not now. Mr. President, get back to work. Many want to see you fail as they have stated so many times previously. Unfortunately, if you fail, the U.S. fails but your opponents do not concern themselves about the big picture. Do not forget your commitment to transparency in your administration. Sometimes I believe your administration forgets that. America, you will realize today and tomorrow that this world is made up of all human beings who have the same general needs and wants in life for themselves, their kin, community, and state. That is the freedom to LIVE and LOVE. They may eat different foods, enjoy different music, have different dialects, or speak a second language, but in essence are no different from you and I. This is America. We are not a perfect sovereign country as we have our own flaws but we are the closest that will ever exist.
Unfortunately, this is not the first time an authoritative figure has lied on me.
Mr. Freid, assistant principal, Cypress HS. Remember when you lied to my mother and the police officer in your office about stating that you never stated to me in a private conversation that you know the theft suspect (Miranda) stole my watch. Let me refresh your memory. A physical education teachers assistant, a student, stole the list of combination codes to peoples lockers, from the P.E. teacher. That student then opened many of those lockers and stole students personal property. My watch was taken in that multi theft an I reported it to you. A week later you discovered that the theft suspect was Paul Miranda, a student. You stated to me in private that you know for a fact he stole my property. When I attempted to retrieve my property from the suspect. Campus security was called and you lied and stated that you never stated to me that you “know he stole my watch”. You sat there and lied to their faces right in front of me. You said it with such a deliberate, stern face. I never forgot that and was not surprised when 13 years later I was lied on again in the BOR by Teresa Evans. maybe you can confess to your family at the very least in the private of your own home. After that, contact my mother and apologize for lying to her in 1996.
If possible, I want my brain preserved for science/research to study the effects of severe depression on an individual’s brain. Since 6/26/08 when I was relieved of duty and 1/2/09 when I was terminated I have been afflicted with severe depression. I’ve had two CT scans during my lifetime that are in my medical record at Kaiser Permanente. Both are from concussions resulting from playing football. The first one was in high school, 10/96. The second was in college and occurred in 10/99. Both were conducted at Kaiser Permanente hospitals in LA/Orange county. These two CT scans should give a good baseline for my brain activity before severe depression began in late 2008.
Sure, many of you “law enforcement experts and specialist” will state, “in all my years this is the worst……..”, Stop!!! That’s not important. Ask yourselves what would cause somebody to take these drastic measures like I did. That’s what is important.
To my friends listed below, I wish we could have grown old together and spent more time together. When you reminisce of our friendship and experiences, think of that and that only. Do not dwell on my recent actions the last few days. This was a necessary evil that had to be executed in order for me to obtain my NAME back. The only thing that changes policy and garners attention is death.
Luis Sanchez, greatest friend, Marine officer, aviator, and an even better father and husband. I Couldn’t have had a better big brother than you. Your spoken wisdom was always retained by me, you old salty Mustang. You sternly told me that no matter what I accomplish I will always be a ni#%er in many individuals eyes. At the time, I did not comprehend your words. I do now. I never forgot the quote you state below. I love you bro.
I never saw a wild thing feel sorry for itself. A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough without ever feeling sorry for itself. –D.H. Lawrence
Jason Valadao, greatest friend, Naval officer, aviator, Great Father, husband, doctor, and even better human being. I always strived to live my life parallel to your similar values and personal disciplines. Danika is lucky to have found a man like yourself, and you are fortunate to have married an irrefutable imperfect woman. Always focus on your IMMEDIATE family as they are the ones who have loved you unconditionally and always been their to support you in difficult times. I always lived my life as WWJD (what would Jason do). Danika, take care of this guy. Jason, I’m sorry I missed your wedding and you had to find another best man. I’m sorry my predicament with the department stopped me from watching you and Danika get married and arguing with you about issues that were insignificant when I was really angry at the LAPD for what they did to me. I’m deeply sorry and I love you guys.
James Usera, great friend, attorney, father, husband, and the most cynical/blatant/politically incorrect friend a man can have. Best quality about you in college and now is that you never sugar coated the truth. I will miss our political discussions that always turned argumentative. Thanks for introducing me to outdoor sports like fishing, hunting, mudding, and also respect for the land and resources. Us city boys don’t get out much like you Alaskans. You even introduced me to PBR. A beer, that when you’re a poor college student is completely acceptable to get buzzed off of. I’m sorry I’ll never get to go on that moose and bear hunt with you. I love you bro.
Kinta Smith, greatest friend, accountant, entrepreneur, and even better Human being. You are probably the most well balanced person I’ve ever met and the most driven for success. In college, and after graduation, I was inspired by your personal drive. Never settle. When you make your first million, promise me you won’t forget to enjoy it a bit. I know your first reaction will be to invest it somewhere else. Spend a little, just a little. I love you bro.
Jason Young, great friend, entrepeneur, husband and father. You showed me the importance of fatherhood and friendship. Love you bro.
Suzie Clark Cunningham, Kassandra Harrell, Melinda Yates, Cal Jackson, Ryan Smith, The Rebelledos, The Banks, Ben Bines, J. Work, Bill O’neill, Jeremy Fletcher, and Rob Harriston.
You guys were all important and very special to me. Don’t be angry with me. I missed some of your weddings and unfortunately, some of your funerals. This was a necessary evil.
Some say it is my fault that I was terminated. Yes, DDX, I remember you stating this to me in an angry fit. You said that I should have kept my mouth shut about another officer’s misconduct. Maybe you were right. But I’m not built like others, it’s not in my DNA and my history has always shown that. When you view the video of the suspect stating he was kicked by Evans, maybe you will see that I was a decent person after all. I told the truth. It still hurt that you abandoned me in my time of need. I hope you’re happy, that’s all I ever wanted for you.
Sgt. Leonard Perez, you meant well but you should have known with your time on the job that the department would attempt to protect someone like Evans because of her time on the job, personal friendships, and ethicity. I’m not angry with you, but you should have known as an IA investigator.
Sgt Maggie Faust LPPD, Ofcr John Thomas LPPD (ret), and Chief Eric Nunez LPPD, your guidance and mentoring as a young police explorer was second to none and invaluable as a young man, police officer, and naval officer. Sgt Faust, you forewarned me long ago about joining LAPD as they were “different” and operated differently from other modern law enforcement agencies. I now know it was your humbleness and respect for all who wear the badge and protect their communities that you didn’t just express what you wanted to say, that they lack values and basic ethics as law enforcement officers. Chief Nunez, your fucking awesome. Thanks for the long talks over the years when I was an explorer, college student, Naval officer, and Police officer. Your are a great leader and carry your heart on your sleeve. Your son will be a great Air Force officer with the upringing you provided. John, what can I say? Your just an awesome person and my first exposure to what law enforcement was really about was on our ride alongs. Your realistic approach and empathetic approach to treating all people as humans first is something I carried with me daily. Thank you, every one of you.
Dr. Funahashi, thank you for the superb surgery you performed on my knee on 7/98 in Irvine, CA. I never had the opportunity to thank you for allowing me to live a life free of knee joint pain. Thank you.
CM1 Bissett (Ret.), I learned more from you about leadership than most of my own commanders. You lived by a strict ethos of get it done, and get it done right. I wanted to attend your retirement, I really did. But because of my predicament I was unable to. Hope you and Ritchie are still together. I’ve always held you in high regard.
Sgt Maj. Kenneth “Rock” Rocquemore USMC, Thank you for the intense instruction and mentorship and time spent forging me into a never quit officer. You were challenging as a DI. You made sure the vicious and intense personality I possess was discovered. On a lighter note….Don’t feel humbled you never broke me. I made it a personal goal to never give up years before. The Corp is lucky to have you at the front. Your leadership is essential and needed for all marines, especially staff NCO’s and mentorship and advisement to company grade officers. You are the epitome of a US marine and never forget that.
I thank my friends for the awesome shared experiences. I thank the unnamed women I dated over my lifetime for the great and sometimes not so great sex.
It’s kind of sad I won’t be around to view and enjoy The Hangover III. What an awesome trilogy. Todd Phillips, don’t make anymore Hangovers after the third, takes away the originality of its foundation. World War Z looks good and The Walking Dead season 3 (second half) looked intriguing. Damn, gonna miss shark week.
Mr. Vice President, do your due diligence when formulating a concise and permanent national AWB plan. Future generations of Americans depend on your plan and advisement to the president. I’ve always been a fan of yours and consider you one of the few genuine and charismatic politicians. Damn, sounds like an oxymoron calling you an honest politician. It’s the truth.
Hillary Clinton. You’ll make one hell of a president in 2016. Much like your husband, Bill, you will be one of the greatest. Look at Castro in San Antonio as a running mate or possible secretary of state. He’s (good people) and I have faith and confidence in him. Look after Bill. He was always my favorite President. Chelsea grew up to be one hell of an attractive woman. No disrespect to her husband.
Gov. Chris Christie. What can I say? You’re the only person I would like to see in the White House in 2016 other than Hillary. You’re America’s no shit taking uncle. Do one thing for your wife, kids, and supporters. Start walking at night and eat a little less, not a lot less, just a little. We want to see you around for a long time. Your leadership is greatly needed.
Wayne LaPierre, President of the NRA, you’re a vile and inhumane piece of shit. You never even showed 30 seconds of empathy for the children, teachers, and families of Sandy Hook. You deflected any type of blame/responsibility and directed it toward the influence of movies and the media. You are a failure of a human being. May all of your immediate and distant family die horrific deaths in front of you.
Chris Matthews, Joe Scarborough, Pat Harvey, Brian Williams, Soledad Obrien, Wolf Blitzer, Meredith Viera, Tavis Smiley, and Anderson Cooper, keep up the great work and follow Cronkite’s lead. I hold many of you in the same regard as Tom Brokaw and the late Peter Jennings. Cooper, stop nagging and berating your guest, they’re your (guest). Mr. Scarborough, we met at McGuire’s pub in P-cola in 2002 when I was stationed there. It was an honor conversing with you about politics, family, and life.
Willie Geist, you’re a talented and charismatic journalist. Stop with all the talk show shenanigans and get back to your core of reporting. Your future is brighter than most.
Revoke the citizenship of Fareed Zakaria and deport him. I’ve never heard a positive word about America or its interest from his mouth, ever. On the same day, give Piers Morgan an indefinite resident alien and Visa card. Mr. Morgan, the problem that many American gun owners have with you and your continuous discussion of gun control is that you are not an American citizen and have an accent that is distinct and clarifies that you are a foreigner. I want you to know that I agree with you 100% on enacting stricter firearm laws but you must understand that your critics will always have in the back of their mind that you are native to a country that we won our sovereignty from while using firearms as a last resort in defense and you come from a country that has no legal private ownership of firearms. That is disheartening to American gun owners and rightfully so.
The honorable President George H.W. Bush, they never give you enough credit for your successful Presidency. You were always one of my favorite Presidents (2nd favorite). I hope your health improves greatly. You are the epitome of an American and service to country.
General Petraeus, you made a mistake that the majority of men make once, twice, or unfortunately many times in a lifetime. You are human. You thought with your penis. It’s okay.I personally believe you should have never resigned and told your critics to shove it. You only answer to two people regarding the affair, your wife and children, period. I hope you return to government service to your country as it is visibly in your DNA.
General Colin Powell, your book “My American Journey” solidified my decision to join the military after college. I had always intended to serve, but your book and journey motivated me. You are an inspiration to all Americans and influenced me greatly.
To all SEA’s (senior enlisted advisers), you are just as important if not a greater viability to large and small commands. It’s time you take a more active role in leading your enlisted and advising officers. These are not your twilight years or time to relax. You can either strengthen the tip of the spear, or make it brittle. You decide.
Pat Harvey, I’ve always thought you carried yourself professionally and personally the way a strong black woman should. Your articulation and speech is second to none. You are the epitome of a journalist/anchor. You are America.
Ellen Degeneres, continue your excellent contribution to entertaining America and bringing the human factor to entertainment. You changed the perception of your gay community and how we as Americans view the LGBT community. I congratulate you on your success and opening my eyes as a young adult, and my generation to the fact that you are know different from us other than who you choose to love. Oh, and you Prop 8 supporters, why the fuck do you care who your neighbor marries. Hypocritical pieces of shit.
Westboro Baptist Church, may you all burn slowly in a fire, not from smoke inhalation, but from the flames and only the flames.
Tebow, I really wanted to see you take charge of an offense again and the game. You are not a good QB by todays standards, but you are a great football player who knows how to lead a team and WIN. You will be “Tebowing” when you reach your next team. I have faith in you. Get out of that circus they call the Jets and away from the reality TV star, Rex Ryan, and Mark Rapist Sanchez.
Christopher Walz, you impressed me in Inglorious Basterds. After viewing Django Unchained, I was sold. I have come to the conclusion that you are well on your way to becoming one of the greats if not already and show glimpses of Daniel Day Lewis and Morgan Freeman-esque type qualities of greatness. Trust me when I say that you will be one of the greatest ever.
Jennifer Beals, Serena Williams, Grae Drake, Lisa Nicole-Carson, Diana Taurasi, N’bushe Wright, Brenda Villa, Kate Winslet, Ashley Graham, Erika Christensen, Gabrielle Union, Isabella Soprano, Zain Verjee, Tamron Hall, Gina Carano, America Ferrara, Giana Michaels, Nene, Natalie Portman, Queen Latifah, Michelle Rodriguez, Anjelah Johnson, Kelly Clarkson, Nora Jones, Laura Prepon, Margaret Cho, and Rutina Wesley, you are THE MOST beautiful women on this planet, period. Never settle, professionally or personally.
Dave Brubeck’s “Take Five” is the greatest piece of music ever, period. Hanz Zimmer, William Bell, Eric Clapton, BB King, Bob Marley, Sam Cooke, Metallica, Rob Zombie, Nora Jones, Marvin Gaye, Jay-Z, and the King (Louis Armstrong) are musical prodigies.
Jeffrey Toobin and David Gergen, you are political geniuses and modern scholars. Hopefully Toobin is nominated for the Supreme Court and implements some damn common sense and reasoning instead of partisan bickering. But in true Toobin fashion, we all know he would not accept the nomination.
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John and Ken from KFI, never mute your facts and personal opinions. You are one of the few media personalities who speak the truth, even when the truth is not popular. I will miss listening to your discussions.
Bill Handel, your effin awesome. For years I enjoyed your show.
Anthony Bourdain, you’re a modern renaissance man who epitomizes the saying “too cool for school”.
Larry David, Kevin Hart, the late Patrice Oneal, Lisa Lampanelli, Chris Rock, Jerry Seinfeld, Louis CK, Dave Chapelle, Jon Stewart, Wanda Sykes, Dennis Miller, and Jeff Ross are pure geniuses. I’m a big fan of all of your work. As a child my mom caught me watching Def Jam comedy at midnight when I should have been asleep. Instead of scolding me, the next night she let me stay up late and watch George Carlin, Eddie Murphy and Richard Pryor comedy specials with her for hours. My sides were sore for days.
Larry David, I agree. 72-82 degrees is way to hot in a residence. 68 , degrees is perfect.
Cyclist, I have no problem sharing the road with you. But, at least go the fucking speed limit posted or get off the road!!! That is a feasible request. Livestrong you fraudulent assholes.
Cardinal Mahoney, you are in essence a predator yourself as you enabled your subordinates to molest multiple children in the church over many decades. May you die a long and slow painful death.
If you continuously followed me while I was walking at dusk/night I would confront you as well. Too bad Trayvon didn’t smash your skull completely open, Zim. While Trayvon’s body erodes to bones 6 feet under, Zimmerman has put on no less than 40 pounds while out on bail. Zimmerman was arrested for battery on a Peace officer and avoided jail/prison because he completed a diversion program. Thats a history of being an asshole. Zimmerman couldn’t get hired by a LE agency because of poor credit/and a history of violence/restraining orders with women. So what does he do? Designate himself, neighborhood watch captain and make complaints to his city council about the horrible work ethic and laziness of the officers patrolling his neighborhood. Good one Zim. How classy that your father attempts to use his veterans status “disabled veteran” during your bail hearing but doesn’t state what his disability percentage is. Prior service personnel know it can be 5% disability to 100%. You and your attorneys always avoid mentioning your fathers occupation as a magistrate/judge because I’m sure he’s utilized his position to get you out of way more jams then the public has discovered and that your family is not indigent. Oh, tell your wife to stop perjuring herself in court.
KCCO
Anonymous, you are hated, vilified, and considered an enemy to the state. I personally view you as a culture and a necessity that brings truth to a cloaked world. Forge ahead!
Charlie Sheen, you’re effin awesome.
My opinion on women in combat MOS’, Designators, Rates, and AFSC’s. I wish all of you who attempt to pursue combat occupational roles the greatest success in completing, graduating, and qualifying in their respective schools/courses. Many want to see you fail. Remember, everyone of you is a pioneer. There was a time when they didn’t allow blacks to fight the good fight. This is your civil rights. Don’t quit!!!
It’s time to allow gay service member’s spouses to utilize the same benefits that all heterosexual dependents are eligible for. Medical, Dental, Tricare, Deers, SGLI, BX, Commissary, Milstar, MWR, etc. Flag officers, lets be honest. You can’t really give a valid argument to as why gays shouldn’t be eligible as every month a new state enacts laws that allow same sex marriage.
LGBT community and supporters, the same way you have the right to voice your opinion on acceptance of gay marriage, Chick Fil-A has a right to voice their beliefs as well. That’s what makes America so great. Freedom of expression. Don’t be assholes and boycott/degrade their business and customers who patronize the locations. They make some damn good chicken! Vandalizing (graffiti) their locations does not help any cause.
Mr. Bill Cosby, you are a reasonable and talented man who has spoken the truth of the cultural anomalies within the black communities that need to change now. The black communities’ resentment toward you is because they don’t like hearing the truth or having their clear and evident dirty laundry aired to the nation. The problem is, the country is not blind nor dumb. They believe we are animals. Do not mute your unvarnished truthful speech or moral compass. Blacks must strive for more in life than bling, hoes, and cars. The current culture is an epidemic that leaves them with no discernible future. They’re suffocating and don’t even know it. MLK Jr. Would be mortified at what he worked so hard for in our acceptance as equal beings and how unfortunately we stopped progressing and began digressing. Chicago’s youth violence is a prime example of how our black communities values have declined. We can not address this nation’s intolerant issues until we address our own communities morality issues first. Accountability. We need to hold ou”
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Stop the killing, you have a case to make in court. You may well have been victimized by LAPD, fight it non-violently.
Chickens coming home to roost…
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Here is the uncensored manifesto. He seems all for disarming the populace and almost wants to be used as a pawn by the anti-gunners.
This guy is a psycho murderer! There are a ton of ways he could have resolved this in a civil manner in court. He could have went to the FBI. Only a small portion of the Black community care about cars, hoes and bling. The majority have regular jobs like everybody else to support their families
He started off by killing two innocent young people, Monica Quan and Keith Lawrence. Monica was an asst. basketball coach at Cal State Fullerton who positively touched the lives of many young women of ALL races. There is no justification in the universe for killing her and her fiance. They met while they were both student-athletes and had a beautiful romance. How can anyone have sympathy for their murderer? If he was wronged, he definitely took an evil route to try to make things right.
http://www.fullertontitans.com/sports/w-baskbl/2012-13/releases/20130204mrsbx5
Plus he is a paranoid, sexist, homophobe.
I am a retired police lieutenant from the LAPD. I will say this from personal experience. While the LAPD deems racism and recist remarks and acts wrong, those wrongs are not considered to be serious. This of course conflicts with Afro-Americans – officers and civilians – who consider such extremely serious. I had a similar incident where I witnessed a police sergeant with tenure spit in a handcuffed officers’ face. Fortunately, current council person Parks, then a Captain was the official I voiced my complaints. Appropriate discipline was metted out. Even though I rose through the ranks, I had like the officer now turned suspect, had a reputation of not supporting police misconduct against citizens but responding to it, Officers like that are literally sitting on a time bomb within the LAPD. One false step and the bomb explodes. His well reasoned story with references sounds convincing. It does not justify his response
How accurate can this possibly be when the article starts off referring to him as retired when he was actually fired. He only served a few short years on the force and wasn’t there long enough to retire anyway.
I applaud him and his plight!
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This is happening now in my city, Riverside. I heard all of the police responding to the shooting scene here last night. I actually took my camera out front to maybe video something going on, then nothing. I came back inside and 10 minutes later, more cruisers flying by. The officer was killed about 1 mile down the street from me. Schools called and said all was safe for kids to come but I am feeling very wary. School Super. said they would not be marked truant if not there today, I took mine but may be going to get them because my nerves are on edge. Hopefully this man really has left the area but who knows.
I feel deep, deep sorrow for this man who appears to have gone over the edge.
However, his rambling, semi-coherent, self pitying story does not seem “well reasoned” to me. There may be elements of truth within the overall crazy-quilt of complaints but his “reasoning” is flawed, self-centered, and self-serving.
No man “of integrity”, who complains of the great injustice of hearing a word he doesn’t like used by police (and in his telling it wasn’t aimed at him personally) can then blithely arrogate to himself the right to execute whole classes of people who have insulted and wronged (real or imagined) at some time.
No, this man is sick and it is plainly obvious from reading his manifesto.
Yeah, no one tampered with this and inserted a bunch of anti gun crap in the manifesto…they would never do that!!
A child could have done a better job of editing for effect.
I like how some dirtbag appended every liberal cause under the sun to the end of it lol
Wow. Aside from the method, I can really jive! He’s rounded, intelligent, questioning, “fair”, honest, possesses bits of opinions (& respect) of all “political” affiliations: dems, repubs, etc., shows knowledge (& philosophical inquest) of religious beliefs… I’m surprised to not see Bill Maher as an inamorata! Going about it the wrong way? Uh… YES, perhaps. It’s sad a successful young couple are gone (one a “brother” none-the-less, who has surely experienced similar strife). However, I can absolutely “fathom” the corruption and cover-up he has ruthlessly faced. It happens in every seam & segment across our country and has been resilient to “change”. SOMETIMES extremism opens eyes even though “attacks” on the “innocent” leave the masses with disgust and rage. Now in Nor Cal, I’m a mid-west female “whitey”, raised in rich disdain for non-caucasian non-christians, I have, somehow, ALWAYS managed to loathe the inequities I have blatantly seen and those I realize were always there that I didn’t “see”. Yes, I believe there are societal “issues” that are often concentrated among certain “races” or “ethnicities” or “customs” or societal standings, however none of this justifies the corruption and disgusting BULLYING of the standard, stereotypical “white man” (I often find “stereotyping” happens for a reason). This is a hugely complex “problem” of our country. It’s rooted in history, in education, in outreach, in finance, in politics in ignorance (both/all sides) & on & on. Hopefully this will be over with no more harm on the innocent. Personally, I “pray” the identified/named corrupted people and agencies will be INVESTIGATED by a team COMPLETELY removed from and unaffiliated with ANY police department. I also realize many of those accused of “corruption” have walked the line of ugliness that Chris Dorner “speaks” of… in fear of disrupting Big Brother, and without the “courage” to take such intense actions. MAYBE somewhere, somehow, SOMETHING will change… and if so, Chris Dorner’s actions (and likely impending death) will not have been in vain. The more I “think” about it, the more disgusted I become with the whole ugly scene that has led to his vigilante actions. Not only do I feel for those harmed, but I hurt for him and others who have attempted to live the “right” way only to be thanked by strong-armed resistance & character assassination. I’m not ignorant of the pain he has caused the families affected, and from a societal perspective, this is “wrong” of me… But my happy ending (for him) is that he would make it to some anonymous country to live a peaceful life.
I seriously get this guy. There are workplace bullies who never are dealt with appropriately. I had a few in my work history that I wouldn’t miss. Let’s see if the Feds investigate the allegations in the manifesto. He names specifics….he is not lying. FIRE THE ENTIRE LAPD. THEY SUCK BAD.
Why would he murder randome cops? Why kill two innocent young people who never worked at the LAPD?
He could have sued the police department.
The man sounds like he is suffering from some mental illness.
this is crazy – blue
i don’t think he goes “weird” at all when he writes about those persons he admires at the end. he’s just giving everyone the open book of how he thinks. he wants us to know him all at once. impossible
consequences of the society that influences all of us subliminally.
recruiting offices and billboards all over the place, it’s like we live twisted in a joke killing mist that’s treated like theater and comedy.
this may be a man poking at the root, while the rest of us are waxing the leaves.
if we honor murder and are entertained by humiliation at the expense and reality of another human being, this is what trickles down from that.
i don’t clap when i see a soldier, i cry for the loss of passion for living things, especially the living thing that has the capacity to engage cognition.
i’m sorry he’s going out like this. a million ways to die, choose one, for real!.
Hey! we may not know about each other, but we’re better at what’s going on with the moon, right?
He was fired for trying to shed light on police corruption. The corruption is at an executive level. So with that in mind, I don’t think he would’ve had a fair trial. There is no moral solution.
LAPD needs to have a federal probe done on the entire agency, they have been crooked for years. It’s time. I have watched individuals that are innocent die because of this agency. I don’t agree with individuals dying,but it’s casually of war.
@shiro Yes, I think this man has some sort of mental issues. The incident with the LAPD seems to be the final straw.
However, I believe his story about the LAPD’s attitude towards whistleblowers – this sort of thing has been reported to happen at police departments across the country many many times and is well known. It seems to be the final straw that drove him over the edge.
However, any sympathy he may have garnered was thrown out the window by murdering innocent people who are not responsibly in any way for what happened to him.
the guy is a Liberal dumb ass. not a bit surprised!
FIRED, not retired.
I hope he takes out a lot more of these pigs before his last stand. Then takes out 10 more. Fuck the police
What’s there to say, he has taken the lives of others and taken what he determines as justice into his own hands by murdering and threatening to murder many more including families and children. Wether many of the accusations and statements he has made are true or not, no one regains their “name” by committing such discussing acks. Now he will leave behind a name for himself that the whole country and world will remember psychotic murderer. He said he was not a Christian, that the bible was a fictitious book. It’s easy to determine he did not live by it and if he had none of this would have happened ,,,,,
Very interesting.. (RED)
LAPD is just legal gang and yes its corrupt they need to fire EVERYONE, clean up the system and i agree he wouldn’t have had a fair trial . and just today during this man hunt they have “accidentally ” shot people …why don’t they make sure its him before endangering innocent people?!
Wow! That took awhile to read. He is in obvious pain and has went over the edge. This was not the right way to go about it. This was the wrong answer to his grievances. This will end very ugly.
He’s in the deepZONE of mental Illness…
WHY doesnt the Media “Run and Tell That”? ……..He plans to Die and Not be Taken
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This is so much to digest and take in, but I know this for sure: It was AS wrong for Dorner to murder innocent people as it was for cops to open fire on a truck “similar” to his. In my eyes, both events are equally horrific! Thankfully, the newspaper ladies survived, but wow!
He seems like the grown up version of the bullied teens who go on revenge rampages against their tormentors. There are so many “Dorners” among us.
Well, one thing is for sure, This officer Evans’ job is cooked. She will quietly or not so quietly be pushed out, fired, retired from LAPD when this is over. It is the same story in every city or town, with so few exceptions. Sociopathic officers, both violent and dishonest, protected like the crown jewels.
This guy was pushed over the edge. It seems like he is doing things he never would have done.
It is true — our systems are working like well-oiled machines to shut down the honest voice and derail justice. From grievance boards, to commissions to courts. It doesn’t surprise me at all that he had every bit of recourse sadistically robbed from him. And it is not unique to LA.
Everyone responds to something like that differently.
It is virulently destructive to allow the institutions that provide recourse to go to the dogs. The whole point of democratic institutions is to regulate society, to prevent pushing people right over the edge.
I have never seen anyone like this man in all of my life. I have never seen anything quite like it except maybe John Brown.
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This manifesto sounds about right, minus the ramblings at the end. I hear you, Mr. Doner! I completely understand what you went through with LAPD because they also did to my brother. The report writing bs sounds so familiar. My brother was blackballed from day one as a rookie… Internal Affairs was no help!
I am extremely disappointed in Charlie Beck that rather than him addressing Mr. Doner’s manifesto, he was so dismissive, as usual.
Sadly, innocent people died in order to bring attention to the corruption within LAPD.
I can definitely understand where he is coming from, for the dumbass above me that said take it to the courts, you need to do more research. We are living as slaves in this country there is no more justice, only greed and corruption.
Rookie, look at the cause: They destroyed his mental health, two careers, his name. They bore false witness, then they robbed him of recourse in a rigged system.
None of us wants to face how damaging perjury, lies, sadistic rights abuses can be to people. This other officer tortured people for fun and you think she is healthier than a guy who is now murdering people after being processed by these sadists for several years? Really?
You’ve got to be kidding.
Somewhere Bill Cosby is cringing because this guy drug his name into it. Sucks because the Cos is totally spot on with his message.
To Truth: I have never met anyone associated with the courts — judges, lawyers, anyone — who does not say the justice system is broken. They all say it.
The man nailed it…and unfortunately in life innocent individuals lose their respective “lives” in life…we are humans…for all the naysayers and critics…the difference here is this “troubled” fed up human cared enough about friends and family to articulate his evil deeds…
This is the exact reason why WE ALL need to be WELL armed. What a fool, he only proves the pro-gun point. That is that people in the government are as flawed as anyone else. You leftists go ahead and trust them, fools.
At some point an overreaching administration is corrected by the seditious. – Thomas Jefferson
lol @ all the obvious editing done on this.
When the police break the law there is no law, only anarchy.
yeah, I noticed he needed guns in order to carry out this little rampage. how the hell can he be anti-assault weapons yet be in desperate need of them at the same time?
http://twitchy.com/2013/02/07/msm-covers-up-christopher-dorners-hard-left-political-views/?utm_source=autotweet&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=twitter
Read the “Manifesto” to understand the culture of corruption, and we are occupied by a domestic army.
While i have the greatest respect for individual officers LAPD should clean up their department, but Dorner needs to pay for shooting 2 innocent young people.
Injustice is just, that no matter which side.
@ Anon…I’m not unsympathetic to what he went through, up to the point of his killing spree. I was in a very similar situation at my workplace. I also tried to raise the flag and alert upper officials and go through their processes for ferreting out wrong-doing in the work place. In the end, I was black-listed and targeted. The turning point was instead of retaliating against those who hurt me for sheer sport, I chose life. I walked away, realizing that I could no longer fight to change that system or I would have ended up just like Chris. Someone else had to pick up where I left off. It was a matter of self-preservation and survival to walk away. And walking away was the best gift I gave to myself. It also served as revenge on my tormentors. I found my happy again!
The lapd should NOT be pursuing this man. FBI should. A criminal organization pursuing the person who reported the criminal organization. Hmm how will that turn out?
They will shoot him on site and lie about it.
I understand that being FIRED from LAPD. caused u to fill depressed for the reason you where terminated but why didnt you go an find sum other kind of work where you would have made a difference in the world. We all are going thru things in are lives. That should have made you stronger to want to make things rite for americans, who beleive in the law an truth. Seems all you wanted in your life was for people to tell you they where sorry. Well my brother im SORRY they did you wrong. But this has to stop.
Damn!!! LL Cool J got fat and angry. Hell hath no fury like a scorn African-American….with a gun. “Mama said knock you OUT!!!! “
@Rookie One path was to give up to the evil that is. The other was to fight it. You chose your path. Dorner chose his.
“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” (Edmund Burke)
i feel his pain. i am an african american police officer and have experienced some of the same issues..unfortunately for us this is reality and will continue to be after his rant. all we can do is earn respect by our actions and lifestyle. i hope you find Jesus Christ and repent brother it will be the best decision youve ever made Romans 10:9.
Redact the officers names that he feels wronged by. Sadly there are people that feel that he is right. They don’t need anymore psychos with their names on their mind. I won’t repost this blog because of the names being printed.
Why would anyone commit murder over a $50,000 a yr job as a cop where you get shot at for a living? I wouldn’t even murder someone for a $50,000 a month job. This guy is an obvious nut job and need to be taken out. He may have gotten a raw deal at with his career but welcome to America, we all have.
What a pussy…sounds like name calling hurt your feelings…dont come to jersey! Because black, white or yellow we could care less if someone called us a nigger..just another name. Might as well just call me a peanutbutta n jelly sandmich. It will make me laugh and im over it..pussy
There is something called natural law and natural rights. Someone forced to invoke those is still more lawful than officers who day in and day out are lawless thugs who perjure and abuse. These sadists hide out in police departments the way pedophiles hide out in the Catholic Church.
With the reports of LAPD shooting anyone in a blue truck, the DOJ should be off their tushes and in LA right now taking over this operation before someone else gets killed. The Consent decree should be re-opened. If Eric Holder doesn’t send someone to federal court to reopen LA’s federal monitoring on an emergency basis, I think he’d be very wrong
Ending the life of people who had zero to do with his torment is not a better path, *Socrates*. I’m certain you’re not suggesting that it is. Are you?
I can see why he lost it: Job persecution, chronic racism in his surroundings, and unfairness coupled with depression and post-concussion syndrome. The head injury from football concussions, coupled with chronic bullying in his school life and cumulating in his firing and subsequent depression made him no longer able to think rationally about how to deal with it. I’m saddened by his swings from rational into crazy, bragging, hunter-killer mode. I wonder about the kinds of stress, both in LAPD and on reserve deployment, that could have snapped him. He needed help, not hate, but all LAPD gave him was hate.
@Rookie, Thank you for choosing the positive way to deal with crap in your life. I’ve dealt with workplace bullying myself, multiple times.
I wish all people dealing with workplace bullying could realize that, in the long run, living well is the best revenge. You plan an exit *before* it gets intolerable or crazy making, then walk away with your head held high, shaking the dust of the place off of your feet. You take time, reset your head, reaffirm your values, and center yourself before you take up a new job/career.
Dorner’s way is a sad and futile attempt to fix things. Hint: If you *ever* find yourself fantasizing about killing a coworker or a boss, take time off, reset your head, find a new job, your current one is killing your soul.
wish u the best…CHRIS
Karma, Chickens coming home to roost. Those LAPD bastards need to look in the mirror and examine their filthy corrupt hearts. They ruined this man. The courts and the FBI do not do shit when you report criminals. They turn on you, they lie on you, they make you a Targeted Individual, an Enemy of the State, while the real corrupt fucks go free to continue to terrorize and haunt forever! There is no justice in a court system for black people. Going to the FBI, have you ever heard of COINTELPRO! Murder is never the answer as you become like those depraved demented devils as they have set the stage for the Blackau, for the TerroRcaust, for the Ruination camps of black lives. The Manifesto is great as it exposes TRUTH, but he is not a Christian and did not understand vengeance belongs to God not man. He has allowed these murderous devils to win as they set the stage for his destruction, for intentional calamity. He has brought joy to their wicked hearts and this is SAD! God will get those LAPD demons, he did not have to do it, they will reap every wicked seed they have sown. So sad such great integrity and talent went to waste on those LAPD racist assholes.
This is going on in my back yard. LAPD of course consider Dorners comments as “self serving.” Also as a side note, if you make a comment on this thread, please consider reading the manifesto first before making comments like, “He can take further action”. The point he has made, is that he has exhausted all legal avenues to right where he feels he has been wronged.
Darla, I agree with you. I read the entire manifesto and I BELIEVE him. I believe he to be a man of solid integrity and that unfortunately, he played right into their depraved hearts as their wicked souls set the stage for his calamity. It saddens me that a man of integrity was do hurt that it led the racist LAPD to win destroying him. This is sad. I wish he was a Christian, then he would have possibly found comfort and hope in God and realized that vengeance was not his. I understand, but I don’t agree. Yes, he like me have exhausted every avenue of the don’t give a damn about minorities agencies. I live it too every nanosecond, but I also know murder is not the answer as I do not want to give my enemies the satisfaction nor do I want to lose my soul over depraved power abusing devils. I will pray for Chris albeit he is not Christian, I do care about people and their pain, always have, always will.
I wish Mr. Dorner all the luck in the World while he is taking Down the LAPD
I am confident you have many supporters. No doubt you do. But we are suppose to rise above being like evil beasts. A challenge I know.
Just simply not true:
Poeple get picked on and bullied every day. I do not agree with it, I often fight against it in schools etc. But the fact remains that most people get over it and don’t go killing people. I see many of you saying black people never get help. BULLSHIT! As a white man I stand in the shadows of any black man or woman who accuses me of ANYTHING. I am automatically guilty of racism for being white, for being conservative, and for any number of other things they chose to throw out there. Black people get plenty of help. The fact is that they would rather feel sorry for themselves than to stand up and be men and women, productive in society. This guy had a chip on his shoulder from day one. Do I feel sorry for him? Yes. What he has endured should never happen to anyone. Do I agree with him? No! He’s an idiot and a cry baby who wants the world to feel sorry for hi,. Grow up people
If anyone really believes this guy is a liberal, you’re pretty gullible.
Filister, By reading the manifesto I would not put in into any political pot. It seems that he sees how those that are different struggle and he sympathizes with those groups. He was a fan of Bush. Bulliessonblast. I stand in agreement. But I think that he found himself at the end of his rope.
“For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:”
-Declaration of Independence
Rookie who was unrelated? The lawyer was the union lawyer correct? The officer was one of the ones he reported or who testified against him?
First of all thanks to this blog for providing the entire uncensored version.
There is no doubt that Corner is believable and an extremely intelligent man. I cant imagine the amount of dedication and work it took for him to get to his level – the security clearances alone are not given to just anyone. But as is the LAPD and a lot of other organizations, its the mob that rules – not the truth. If the mob is corrupt – to succeed you must be corrupt. Period. You can follow through with all the proper legal avenues (internal affairs, etc) but you will lose.
It must have been unbelievably heartbreaking for Corner to finally realize his dream – and find nothing but corruption in what was supposed to be a sea of ‘to protect and serve’. Most of us here in the secular world already knew that. We would even call Corner naive to believe that – but I was young once and I wanted to believe in the best, not the worst – even when the world was telling me otherwise.
But at that point – we must have the strength to ‘be the better man’ and take a step back or a step sideways. I did in my career. I lost a lot of money and prestige opportunity. But I kept myself. I left my soul intact. I could sleep again at night. I have accepted God and Christ in my life and when I am at odds with the world – I do drop to my knees, become humble, pray and try to find a way to help someone else – it always takes me out of that ugly, prideful place that wants to enact revenge on anyone that crosses me. Because I feel it too. I think we all do.
Brothers and sisters – lets all take a moment and pray for Christopher Corner. Pray that he drops the guns and stops the violence. Pray that no one else gets hurt or killed. Pray that the families of the deceased find peace and forgiveness. Pray that somehow through all this that some change will happen to make the LAPD and all corrupt organizations more transparent and more ethical.
Amen, so agree. I suffered a similar calamity and am now a Targeted Individual, An Enemy of the State, so I understand why Dorner did what he did, if he did it and this is not an elaborate lie to justify killing him. Corrupt devils to anything to justify their evil. Shame on the LAPD. Chris is a Martyr.
This is a prime example of what happens when you get bullied in the work place. Eventually, someones going to snap. I totally believe what he says about the LAPD. LAPD needs to change; its too bad that he needed to murder innocent people in order to get some attention.
So agree, no one helps the victim only the crooks.
What a stupid racist moron. I hope his cop friends execute him.
Martyr
racist?
So true, yes those LAPD are racists, so agree
I just watched the FBI profiler on the news and he is an obvious idiot, tellin’ us what we already know. Of course this man wants to clear his name! The FBI profiler states this man is doing this for attention, no he’s not!, he’s doing this to not only expose the hypocrisy of the police dept, and to also justify his actions, which I agree with! We all know INCLUDING this man knows that violence is not going to clear his name, but it’s a shame that when you try do things the right way, the court of law serves it’s own agenda in the end, if that WEREN’T the case, so many police wouldn’t be getting away with the dirt they do and society would be a happier place. The law lies to us to believe there is equality, but the Rodney King verdicts and other incidents prove the police will settle out of court to shut you up!, which clearly shows guilt! The bottom line is this, history has shown that the law seeks to uphold it’s own agenda. If you read this man’s manifesto, he specifically states he EXHAUSTED ALL legal avenues to pursue justice, and those of us who have experienced the brutality and “special interests” the police dept. upholds, you know what this man is talking about!, AND YOU CAN’T DENY IT! Those of you who have suffered at the hands of police know this man ain’t lyin’! This man is clearly at the end of his rope, and to have your name, your reputation stripped away from you is damaging. We all know your record follows you everywhere, when your name is tarnished, it’s difficult to find work, synonymous with a convicted felon who is refused work or opportunities because of his felony conviction record. To the poster named SPIDER, guess what?, he’s going to have plenty of success against LAPD. He’s already damn near killed one LAPD officer, grazing him in the head!!!, so what does that tell you! This man isn’t playin’!!! He’s trained, well versed, and disciplined in special weapons and tactics, and LAPD is showing their fear of this man with these high alerts, taking all of their motorcycle officers off the streets, and deploying “protection details” to the targets mentioned in his manifesto. Goes to show the past will catch up with you, and cowards will be exposed. Like the scriptures say, what you do in the dark WILL COME TO LIGHT! NUFF SAID!
That was powerful. Hope something good comes out of this! Thought I was reading a movie script or something!!!
Also too public audience, take this into consideration. Do not believe the media reports saying this man is guilty of killing that cop from Riverside and wounding the other two! THAT HAS NOT BEEN CONFIRMED BY BALLISTIC OR PHYSICAL EVIDENCE AND SHOULD THEREFORE BE REGARDED AS HEARSAY! DO NOT LET THE MEDIA OPINIONATE YOU! This country preaches you’re innocent until proven guilty, but we all know it’s the other way around!, if you are innocent until proven guilty, then you would be able to post bail even on murder CHARGES! CHARGES ARE NOT FACT, THEY ARE ASSUMPTION! Can’t call it, just have to let the truth show itself and set you free.
He sounds like a damn lunatic.. Welp if he had ever read the bible he would know how to handle his situations a lot better than this. Not going around killing innocent people. Learn to Love because Love is God. He can’t handle being kick out of the LAPD or the US NAVY??? Are you serious you sick person??? He is a Fool for living for a JOB that doesn’t gives a rats ass about you either way.. A Name??? Man doesn’t make the name WE DO. TOO MANY WEAK FOLKS WALKING AROUND
This confirms my opinion of LAPD… LA needs a new Police Department.
Amen @ The Truth
It will take literally take weeks or months to process all the evidence before they can say beyond reasonable doubt who is responsible. Pray pray pray…
He will be remembered as a folk hero, unfortunately power is never relinquished without violence. This will change the way police operate, whether they like it or not. This will go on for weeks, if not longer.
wow-teal
If you kill…..You are just as bad as THEM. No different. REPENT! Or you’re eternity shall be with THOSE WHO WRONGED YOU.
Your*
We cheer for Matt Damon, Sylvester Stallone and a slew of overhyped actors, who retaliate against a corrupt system when munching on popcorn. Will we know cheer?
It is a shame that the war on drugs has led to the destruction and separation of police and community. The war on drugs has given government and police forces power and money far beyond what a citizen could ever imagine, and worldwide. It is the root cause for this man’s story and many others. If you are not concerned about this, you should be. Are you not fed up of stories like these? How many more does it take? Compassion without corruption is something the people will never stop fighting for. We are idle no more.
As Mark Belling always says on his daily radio program.. “Rationalization is the second strongest human drive…”. Mr. Dorner should have listened to his mother and found another means to channel his disappointment. Sometimes bad things do happen to good people. Bad things happen to all of us, throughout our lives. Many disappointments. But killing another human being can only be justified in self-defense, and his standard doesn’t meet that test. Mr. Dorner is not afraid to die, so he’s got that going for him.
He is my hero. That’s what cops get
I hope this becomes a epedemic and more cops get shot. Shoot as many as you can.
I will remember this person for what He was Not for what the media says he became. He has a motive that holds a message showing it was to protect the people. He will die that is inevitable but I hope when his time comes god gives him a chance. But I can’t be certain that his actions won’t throw him in the pits of hell.
The FBI and the Dept of Homeland Security Failure http://www.drturi.com/the-fbi-and-the-dept-of-homeland-security-failure/
Killing innocent people does not clear your name Mr Dorner.
I believe you were wronged by the L.A.P.D. but you are not entitled to be
judge, jury and executioner.
May God grant you the ability to act in faith with humility and have mercy on you for your heinous behavior.
Let us not forget the heinous behavior of the LAPD as well.
I will soon post on http://www.drturi.com the life and fate of the killer and elaborate more on my prediction of a full restructure of the police force…
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Lori Otto wrote:
This is his manifesto , he is making it public that LAPD is racist. He is also targeting all cops. Just like DT said would happen.
Lori
I believe that he is telling the truth…the LAPD, the media and possibly the FBI, will continue to condemn him…and they will kill him. He is expecting this. This is his will, his goodbyes and his principles all in one, including his war strategy.
He is not crazy, but he is pissed and with good right.
As his mother told him, “Sometimes bad things, happen to good people.”
I love his comment to Mrs. Obama, “I love your new bangs.”…
He’s quite a guy and yes, Spike Lee needs to use this Manifesto and make a movie.
It is a script…a one man Manifesto, representing many, many, many people…men & Women.
History will clear him…I admire his guts to stick to his ethics and as he said, “Don’t feel sorry for LAPD, they are looking as the citizens they supposedly protect as material objects to buy for their family…
What goes around comes around, but they picked the wrong one…
His motto, “Today is a good day to Die!” (Klingon motto)
Live Strong, Christopher!
This guy did the same thing he is crying about.Hes all upset about all the corruption going on in the L.A.P.D.And he went out and killed aninnocent girl and her fiance.She had nothing to do with all that.All I can say is I can already see a Block Buster movie coming out of this story.
I can smell it off a mile that some of this Manifesto has been tampered with, the part where he supposedly praise the people that are going for the New Gunlaw!!! Look at the Manifesto up until that point, there is a difference all of a sudden. Its another freaking False Flag to achieve the Government agenda. Mr. Dorner is going to be another “Fall Guy” here, ridiculed by the Media in order to declare him “crazy” just like all those “crazy” guys of late that killed in Aurora and Newtown! Yet so many many things in there made no sense to people that use their brains, the discrepancies were piling up by the ton. You all know how it works, the Media works for certain people, you know you cannot trust their reporting, they are there to scare the public and misdirect them. Mr. Dorner is going to be killed and the Truth will not come out, but you need to think outside the box. Doesn’t it strike you as weird that over the past 4 to 5 months the frequency of these sudden “Mad Men” happenings is on the increase? Don’t believe a word they tell you, this Manifesto has been tampered with, to suit their agenda, and the drama will stop as quick as it started once they killed him, just like you don’t hear anything about Aurora nor Newtown any longer. The deadly silence is deafening. You think about it.
I don’t believe a damn thing they say. They are evil liars!
The 2013 Nat Turner of our time (Mr. Dorner)!!!. Mr. Dorner has open our eyes to the corrupted System. This same type of corruption is also is going on with The Los Angeles County Court on 1150 North San Fernando Rd. Los Angeles CA #95A and the Los Angeles County Public Guardian Department 320 Temple St., L. A. Ca 90012. CORRUPTION!!!!!
The courts won’t do shit against Police Departments. This guy is doing the right thing.
Quite a long read,found this via twitter. People respond to situations in different ways,Chris is just responding in his way. I don’t condone acts of murder,but after reading this,kind of get where he’s coming from. His quote about trusting the US government 100% is one that thing i definitely don’t agree with…for starters it’s a corporation,just like most governments worldwide,complete with S.E.C numbers.(look up peoplestrust1776.org). Chris thanks for sharing your experience about the LAPD, particularly how some of your co-workers were promoted after committing injustices against civilians they were meant to protect. I don’t think Chris is crazy/insane,just a hurt man living in an world of injustice-he’s responded in his own way,i for one won’t be judging him. But i’m sure main stream media will paint him as a ‘rampaging mad man’,thanks for posting manifesto,i hope it truly is his words & not just a fabrication(seems like a lot of work to be a hoax),if its a hoax,no big deal,it was an interesting read & hopefully some real ‘journalists’ might be able to check this story out.
I just posted an analysis of the manifesto on my blog and agree with those here who recognize how self-serving it actually is. What a tragic and evil situation.
Did he really kill the Asian basketball coach and her black fiancée? Does she have family member(s) on the LAPD? Maybe an officer in her family doesn’t like her marrying a black guy, maybe killed them and blaming it on the cop… The cops need “ammo” against Dorner…to demonize him…
Now I can believe this. You cannot trust LAPD or the media.I do not believe this, this is an elaborate set up in my opinion. Devils!
This is a clear case of some one losing his mind, nothing is gong to change his mind. In my case i will be more scare of cops killing me than this man because he is out to kill those who wrong him. I don’t trust the police they only care about hem selves when it comes to a case like this. CITIZENS if you have a vehicle that looks like the suspect, please don’t use or you will be a target for the police.
INNOCENT LIVES ARE US IMPORTANT OR MORE THAN A CORRUPT OFFICER.
People watch out from the police, Police watch out from the suspect ONLY.
It’s there going to be a trail against the officers who kill the innocent drivers?
Actually I do not agree with the killing or hurting people.But this guy is Brilliant and Intelligent!! And the LAPD have gotten away with hurting innocent people and lying too long. Wow!!!!!!!!!!!! I have not read anything this truthful and Justice seeking since the Bible. Thats a cold Soldier right there!!!! I am mindblown!!!!!!!
He killed a women and her fiance just to get at her father.. What a cowardly thing to do by a armed bully,. If everyone who FELT victimised behaved like that then society would end. This dumb self righteous sanctimonious violent thug has even fallen out with his family and friends about this. It seems like a case of everyone is wrong except him… psycho… Hopefully he will be killed before many more innocent people are.
Watch your tongue, there is life and death in the power of the tongue. You many be digging your own grave with those callous words
Memo to LAPD: Aim small, miss small
Thanks for publishing this uncensored. It’s a bit rambling but it’s what I’d expect from someone driven to the edge by injustice.
Wow.
He should not have killed people’s families. Obviously.
I can’t really fault him for going after the LAPD “officers” though. They’ve now gunned down two random civilians just in the last couple of days. Who’s going to stop them?
I am reminded of John Brown and Harper’s Ferry.
If guns are the problem? so why the Police doesn’t stop using them? They want to unarmed the citizens to do what they want with us, like they did with the Native Americans, they kill most of them and Mexicans too. Just look at Mexico only the criminals have weapons and were provided by USA GOV to unestablished the country, Now even we are scare to travel to Mexico.
This guy had his days and people down to dates. Some people may not understand why he killed innocent people. He states that he used every outlet possible and nobody listen to him. He felt this was the only way they would. He was right. Its like when you sue someone. They only hear you when it’s a high monetary award. This is his high monetary award way. The LAPD has always been corrupts. This proves it. My opinion.
Yes no one ever helps the hurting.
Torrance PD responds the same day with 2 different shootouts against innocent and unarmed civilians.
“Did he really kill the Asian basketball coach and her black fiancée? Does she have family member(s) on the LAPD? Maybe an officer in her family doesn’t like her marrying a black guy, maybe killed them and blaming it on the cop… ”
Perfectly possible. No way to tell, since all the information is going through the known-corrupt LAPD.
I think that Christopher Jordan Dorner is The Man in the LAPD! Those who think he should “peacefully” air his views in court are totally unrealistic. The PD will never allow him to live to testify. This man is obviously willing to give his LIFE to address wrongdoing.
Yep!
Racism is in all colors not just white … Black , brown , yellow and white ..but it is only wrong if it is against a black. You can call us anything and it is ok. You can have a black school have black history month… But we can do one thing because we are races. Because way way back in the old day other white people done wrong and we still today are the blame…. This has not a thing to do with races it is about a sick man…that is a murder ……. I have seen more hate on white people then on blacks I am so tired of it grow up..
“…He could have sued the police department…”
You will note that this did not work in the Rodney King case, *and that he mentioned this*. No matter how many lawsuits are filed, the LAPD does not get rid of the abusers and thugs, and they continue to act as if they are above the law.
If the city council were willing, of course, it could clean out the LAPD: it has the full legal authority to shut the entire department down, fire everyone, hire a new Chief of Police and start arresting the former LAPD officers. That is the approach people should be taking: elect city council members who realize that the LAPD is unreformable and needs to be eliminated and replaced.
If this isn’t done, there will be more and more crazed vigilantes like Dorner.
That person has no idea of the corruption in law suits against the powerfully corrupt. It is not like going to the store and purchasing a candy bar. It is like trying to purchase a state, ain’t happening. Plus I am not sure, I believe all this ish about Dorner, it could be an elaborate set-up. I do not trust the LAPD or most police.
Because mass media said he wrote this dose’nt mean he wrote this. Anderson Cooper said he recieved in the mail just 6 days ago, but it sat in the mail room for 6 days just like they said the psychiatrist had recieved a packege but never looked at it in the aurora theater shooting. Will there be a PROSECUTION for the innocent people in the 2 different trucks both wrong models and both wrong color and neither had a roof rack that the suspect had.
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Really no cops what the hell do you think would happen to this world… And there is bad people in every job,, their in our own white house… He was fire 5 years ago get over it . His family is mad at him and what he is going thought a break up so what kill the cop and there kids .. What a stupped stupped man ,,,,
CORRECTIONS- He Successfully went to court and fought his case but the judge dismissed his case for lack of evidence. I use to be an officer in Florida. I was fired for not saying this inmate pushed me- because they beat him almost to death and I was not down with lying so they fired me. Now I am a legal Mediator- and I realize this system is not for me, because the system is corrupt. I meet over 100 people a week who fight years of cases like this and it is dismissed. Richard Fined exposed the Judges for being paid off by the county and they jailed him and took his Law lic. hes is over 80 years of age. .Also LAPD is using this platform to wack off random black people, They even shoot at women and thought it was him. SMH! However I do pray for the families. But I also hope the community expose the public records and hold LAPD accountable.
Yes my case to was DISMISSED due to racism, to a corrupt legal/unjust judicial system that protects corrupt Corporate sociopaths. I understand why he did this, if this is true. While stand on a non-violence platform against wicked racists. I truly understand. I have sought help for 6 years by Congress, Senator and not a thing happened except I was turned into a TI, Enemy of the State, blackballed from employment by these type of devils who delight in the ruination of black people. www dot couragelive dot com Sadly, he played into their hands, if this is not an elaborate set-up and LIE.
Spider, I wish him all the luck as well, I don’t wish for the Fed’s or the Cop’s to kill him so they can have some any satifaction,, I want for us all American to hear from Chris Dorner mouth. And that LAPD look dumb for what they have done to L.A. because he is right, they have not changed there ways about being racist.
All I know is I don’t believe anything LAPD says I think they like many other police dept are a bunch of damn liars!!! I believe everything in his letter to be truth and there are consequences right or wrong for everything done. I Pray that god will protect him because LAPD will not arrest him they will lie about how he died because they are going to kill him if they can. I hope he makes it or at the very least I hope there is some investigation into all that was stated in his letter.
This man is feed up with the BULLSHIT of the LAPD just like the rest of us should be. He knows first hand how they do plenty of evil, he tried to do the right thing and go thru all the right channels but that did not work. So in the words of Malcolm X by any means necessary, I’m not mad at him do what u gotta do. Maybe now they will do the right thing and tell the fuckin truth, which is something we all kno they are noe used to. I say go Dorner go!
Thank you for posting the FULL text. Thank you Anon for u’r insightful comments. We should always shelter people of conscience.
ACLU…Urban League….have u been watching ?
I wish him all the luck as well. I for one am also pro for non-violent protest and solving things non-violently, but that only works if one’s own numbers are vast and the government is “fairly reasonable”. To work in or for the US court system was once known as an honorable position for an honorable person, some people wants to believe that, but majority of them are in the pockets of corporations and making bad calls. The idea of the USA government system works, it is a great system, but many of the people in it are more concerned with the title and filling their own pockets then the good of the nation, and often lie to themselves that it is good for the nation. So those of you who say non-violent solutions, would you truly do so when they decide to corner you into a wall and ask you kindly to die? They have taken away your family, credibility, and even the possibility in moving on with one’s life, would you really sit back and put your trust into a system that proclaims you are insignificant? And even though the words of Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr. are required material to learn in schools, their teachings had died with them when they were assassination.
Deep- true!
FUCK YOU SHARON, for your get over it comment!!!
You dam right Sharon
we are still sensitive about racism because it does still exist even if you dont want to admit or see it us as BLACK people do.
tell that delusional person
It isn’t about money it is about HONOR and Integrity. The career he had POOF gone because of corruption, his military career POOF gone because of the FALSE allegations against him. THEY DISGRACED HIS NAME. Knowingly and willingly. LAPD is as CORRUPT as the rest of the “Oath Swearing” bodies in this country, who stand and state they will protect and defend Our Constitution and the PEOPLE who live here. The fact that he has to MARTYR himself to see it change is inconceivable to me. Christopher, sending you LOVE, LIGHT, PROTECTION and FORGIVENESS. My Son is an FMF Corpsman. Semper Fi Brother
Understand it happened to me too, but I do not want to kill anyone. I just keep trying to use my voice to speak truth to power, to expose their wickedness. www. dot couragelive dot com. I too am hurt by a system that has failed me, that turned me into a target via COINTELPRO. I went to my Congressman, Senator, Courts, Media, NOTHING so I understand.
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Officer Dorner’s Extensive thoughts feelings about the LAPD in the Dorner Manifesto.
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Dorner’s Uncensored Manifesto.
Dude is an idiot. He is as bad as, if not worse than those he is going after. I spent ten years in service before being retired for wounds recieved in Iraq. I spent three years im Iraq and Afghanistan. I never harmed civilians intentionally, even when they would call us names, throw rocks at our convoys, spit or throw shoes at us (throwing shoes is one of the greatest insults one can make in Arab nations). It takes a bigger man to forgive. It takes a bigger man to ignore the insults. Not just a good Christian, but a good human being. He says he is trying to redeem his name, but all he is doing is tainting it further and dishonoring his family, friends, and loved ones. He will get what he deserves, and the whole world, including his family will bid him a good riddance and be glad he is gone from this world.
The whole world does not agree with you get off your racist high horse. Walk his shoes, then come back to me. While I disagree with vengeance and murder, I understand how they emasculated him and drove him to this, even if this is not a LIE.
Yes many issues have been ignored for years, but killing people won’t make a forum for resolution. The daughter / attorney Quan and the boyfriend basketball coach are not a fair match. A large part of me understands his frustration, however there is life after the LAPD. This is not how it had to end.
You have never been a targeted individual, gangstalked, raped, terrorized, tortured and blackballed by a corrupt racist system. I live this bullshit daily, but will never kill as I would not give the assholes the satisfaction of taking my soul, but I have a higher source to have hope. Chris didn’t believe in a higher source, perhaps if he did, he would have persevered and endured the raging hurt, pain, rejection. You have no idea what if feels like to try and get truth out only to get kicked in your teeth, lied on, attempted set-ups, I KNOW. Jeff Feinberg and VeLIEzon did it to me. They tried to force my hand to be a Chris Dorner. They sent trucks to run me off the road, stole money out my bank, have me blackballed from fair labor. I went to Congressman, Senator, FBI, Courts and NOTHING happened but a big ass cover-up and my life destroyed. While they have taken everything, I will not give them my soul. They have gangstalkers on me weekly, they burned me with the satellite and so much more, so I understand but don’t agree. I am trusting God for truth, hope, deliverance from these devils. www dot couragelive dot com
I may not agree or condone his actions. But under many of the same circumstances many might have reacted the same way. But sometimes tyranny needs to get knocked down a click or two. Violence and Blood is the only currency that the system hears or sees. because they put you in the system and you are then just a common criminal and the sheep believe anything. I think Personally if he makes them cash it out in blood maybe they will truly learn something. . Civilians please do not involve yourself in his fight I believe he will shoot true and hit who he wants to hit so I think the civies are safe. Those of you who he calls HVT. I might wanna make a full disclosure and hope he spares you.
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Not having anything to do with my ongoing Black History Month theme (…Or, does it? You judge…)
But I had to reblog this. Make up your own minds about the validity.
Shout out to Davey D for having the balls to post the uncensored version.
This guy has been dead for like a week probably and alllll of this is a setup so they have more ammo to take away guns before the country goes belly up broke in 20 yrs.
hmmm, I would not be surprised if this is an elaborate scheme by the corrupt LAPD devils
If the cops are having this much trouble with one guy shooting at them, imagine what it would be like if Obama gets his gun control dream enacted and even 1% of gun owners shoot it out with the cops over their Second Amendment rights!
1% of gun owners would outnumber all federal, state and local police combined by a wide margin.
Other than that, and his approval of Bill Cosby, Dorner sounds like a typical left-winger to me. The fact that Feinstein, Biden, Obama, the Clintons. Bush I and Christie all get his stamp of approval should tell us what kind of person voted for that dreck. (Deranged.)
I Too am a victim of the BLUE GANG….My Dad was murdered while at a stoplight,he dosed off. LAPD pulled up and ordered him out of the car .He did not respond. He was pulled out of the car and beaten to death. No LAPD officer was deciplined
The culture of violence and rasisim in the LAPD is out of controll.
Good people of all type we need to do our part to bring the Code of silence to a end. While the media could be exsposeing the truth about the corruption violence and victems.They need to hear from the People NOW!! The Blue Gang is Hunting.
damn sorry to hear this
Good luck in your endeavor. I hope it echoes and ripples its way into the heart of America. We can stand up for what is right only by standing against what is wrong. May you take many soulless bastards with you. God Bless.
Hopefully this idiot is taken out quick. He is a libtard for sure ,I find it funny he talks shit about all his experience ,knowing everybody’s travel routes , not to mention his anti gun rant. This is the reason for gun ownership an ar 15 would come in handy if you had to deal with this fucking asshole. Please put this pile of shit in the ground and quick
You are just plain stupid
This guys cheese done slid off his cracker. Seriously, he should have consulted mental health professionals a long time ago. This didn’t just manifest overnight.
Correct it manifested when the racist liars conspired, lied, covered-up, and the corruption revealed itself when he tried to get help. No one helps black people against a corrupt racist demonic system. Get a clue
He is killing innocent people because his feelings are hurt. Quit feeling sorry for him, he is a demon and will be with his kind soon. If he was an intelligent man he would have pushed his story, if it proved to be truth, to the throngs of folks out there yearning to print, publish, video and tell stories such as the one he is claiming. But no, he has decided to kill. To KILL!?!? This is not the response of a human being. It’s the response of an animal – an idiotic, pathetic, piece of dung.
No, you have it wrong the LAPD are the demons
I believe that the injustices and racisim and violent abuse of suspects that is he claims to have experienced are true and are only the tip of the iceberg in police departments
with this type of corruption in cities all over this country and it is symptomatic of a morally bankrupt society , the moral compas is missing.
Damn LAPD, you corrupted asses! Look what you have done >:-/ My friends and I were caught one time smoking pot in Griffith Park (15 yrs ago), and one of the police officers just snatched the pot from my friends pocket and told us to leave! Im sure they smoked it! Instead of doing your damn job and getting all the real bad guys, you guys are arresting the pot smokers and filling the jails with non-criminals. You guys are all deuche bags and you suck! Poor guy lost his mind now and has gone rogue. BTW, I do not condone his actions in any way.
Please don’t defend this asshole like he’s some hero to the Black Community. I am astounded at how many fellow Black Folks are commending him. He’s murdering innocent people for f*ck sake. The minute he crossed that line he prevented any chance of being a activist for a cause. I read the account and whether he had legitimate beefs with LAPD or not, nothing justified this. He sealed his fate, now it’s probably gonna be suicide by cop. Black Folks we don’t need that Nat Turner sh*t, lets step up our game. He’s not a hero.
I said right from the start when I heard this… that the guy was telling the truth about the kicking the schizophrenic. If you were lying you would have later said.. eeks I got caught lying etc.. but if you are terminated and you weren’t lying…you don’t forget.. whether it’s 3 years or 20 years.. you become vindictive and so he has… explosive rage. Tragic for everyone though. But when I saw how long this was….I”m thinking concussion. Only someone who got hit in the head one too many times would talk this long. He’ rambling on and on…if he’s really smart as he says he is… he will be hard to find. But if it’s the concussion… the depression will expose him sooner than later. That’s my opinion. One thing for certain… the entire situation is tragic.
Chris, my prayers are with you and I know you got to do what you got to do…. America is a ViOLENT NATION, that’s how we started out. It’s the only way people actually stop and pay attention. You remind me of a modern day Rambo, when SLY Stallone was up against the police force and used every skill he’d learn in his armed service to take them down. Thank you for bringing all the corruption to LIGHT!
ONLY A WARRIOR KNOWS THE MEANING OF PEACE BECAUSE HE’S SACRAFICED HIS INNOCENCE SO THAT OTHERS MAY LIVE IN PEACE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE IN THE DESERT OF HELL.
I wish you’d come back to an honorable country, where truth and justice were preserved. Exposing the LAPD, and all the other law enforcement agencies is brave and I know that you’re not afraid to die. That will give you power in the end. It’s when we can look death square in the face, that we become a formidable force and I see that you will be just that. A force to be reckoned with. Perhaps this will be a day of reckoning.
Do not be disheartened by the dark forces. It’s their job to oppose the Light. We live in the world of Duality… ever since Eve took the bite from the apple, we’ve been living in the knowledge of good and evil. In the end, we all signed up to play at this game of life. It’s no surprise that the dark wears a badge, with a company car that says “to protect and serve”. But if you notice, it doesn’t really say WHO they protect and serve.
Thank you for your honesty and don’t give a second thought to those who oppose you. They haven’t walked a mile in your shoes. they have no basis to judge. Perhaps they are merely cowards themselves. Your methods may be disagreeable to many, but they are effective. To live by the sword, we have to accept that we’ll die by the sword. Any police officer who doesn’t know this, doesn’t understand what he signed up for.
The other night, Scott Pelly on Channel 2, said that WalMart will employ any service man/woman who served their country in good standing. And why wouldn’t they? They get a well trained, order taking team of soldiers and only have to pay them minimum wage. I’m sure that’s not what you dreamed of when you got out of the service, a job at WalMart, is it? But that seems to be the best America has to offer our service men and women. Is it any wonder that more people don’t go on a rampage?
Though I don’t agree with killing, I understand why you are doing this. It’s what you were trained to do. Kill the bad guy… you just didn’t know that the bad guys would wear a badge. Know that there are HUGE Spiritual repercussions for killing. The spirits of your confirmed kills will be tied to you. If you live through this, they will come to you in your dreams. Eventually you will have to make amends. Or you won’t ever have peace. Creator never gave us permission to kill anyone. Just realize that you’re killing without permission and make amends to the spirits who need to return home. Blessings on your walk
“LAPD, I’m home, you got some splainin to do!” Mr. Dorner,we get it, LAPD is riddled with corruption and should be vetted of the scum that give Law Enforcement a bad name. But your actions, are far worse than anything that any of those officers ever did. Stop the Killing, get a good attorney and turn yourself in. Your Manifesto has brought to light enough evidence that the News Media and general Public will not ignore. having said that, you yourself have become that which you despise, and though I was not in the military, I believe in the 2nd amendment, and if I see you in my neighborhood, where my kids play, I will put you down, and all your assault rifles and tactical knowledge wont help you.
He is righteous and clear on his path. I don’t believe he should of harmed family members but warfare consists of collateral damage and his justification is his family that never existed. He is disgusted with the people that operate under the badge and is as he states a product of his environment. He became conscious and was sicken with what he saw; reality. I think he i in his right and should leave the country asap.
What if God sent him. Maybe God has gone all early testament because we have “corrupted his temples”. He works in mysterious ways. What would Jesus do? Well getting pissed and turning over tables is an option. Why praise a police force that is notorious for injustice while holding the shield of justice. How many innocent people have been will be killed by LAPD? I don’t condone his actions but this is the hate that hate made.
Well done bro.
This is a necessary evil and I am glad to see someone not afraid of letting everyone know whom the corrupt bastards in the LAPD is.
I hope you succeed in your goals Rambo and that the petty corrupt losers are getting ripped.
I personally cheer for you and I hope to read about more killings on corrupt personal.
Now you are at it, please slay some child molesters, gays and other filth.
Cheers,
John
John Andersen… Please read the manifesto in its entirety before posting comments. Thank you.. You homophobe.
thier setting him up
they will catch him one day
the man is a fool what does he think he is going to do they will catch him and when they do they will put him to death in prison for killing a cop.
people need to wonder why a man would go and kill people that he did not know . just because he was fired from the LAPD. does not give anyone the right too go out and kill people . if he is really bein set up that does not give him the right to kill. people wake up and look that your life . if these people where your children being kill you would be bad at the guy. there are a lot of cops looking for him . and when they catch him they mite shot him. he needs to turn himself in.
read the bible about killing and then come back and write your story. god bless everyone .
He will never go to jail and he is aware of it. Please read the manifesto.
Besides, what is he supposed to do when there is so much corruptness. This is the only thing he can do. – So hopefully he will manage to get some attention to the problem and perhaps a head or two will roll.
We common people on the ground, like me the technician, like him the police officer or the firefighter or whatever, cannot do anything against the crimes against our freedom rights.
Therefore he has decided to take the Rambo way out of it.
I wish he could take out 2 racist white assholes R.S. and D.G. Responsible for having my wife wrongfully terminated from the L.A. County Probation Department. Thanks to them they made our lives a living hell..
Wheres the FULL Manifesto? It gets cut off at the end
Sounds like the media spreading more anti gun propaganda to me.. shoot on my friend.. They do it to us every day.
when i was young i use to hang out with gang members in East los angeles i had friends that sold drugs they would tell me how they would pay off LAPD cops and give the cops names of other small time dealers to meet there quote guess what dose old friends still sell drugs this guy dorner lit the fuse and its going to blow… well at least i hope it dose LAPD is useless
Wow! this was a lot, good read. i can understand his frustration, but he do need jesus christ so that he could forgiven and move on.i really hope this get his name clear since he’s doing all of this. and that the LAPD clean up house if thats the case! but i will pray for him to get jesus in his life and maybe we can save some lives.
Where are the lawyers who will take cases against the bad cops?
I feel for the man. I know EXACTLY how he feels. Sadly, the system is corrupt. Decent ,honest people become the victims who suffer in such a system that insist you CONFORM. PLAY THE GAME. I worked for the federal government for many years . It was the same there. Whores, con artist and people with low morals and character would be the chosen for promotion. Just as the Rodney King officers where promoted. I can go on but what’s the use . See the late comic George Carlin on u tube . See how he talks about this corrupt system where all the crooks on Wall St, who stole the pants off us ,never went to prison. etc . How the system is rigged . Believe what i say , hide from this evil system or they will come after YOU>
After reading this “manifesto” some things seem fairly clear to me.
1. He is a mentally unstable and highly narcissistic individual. Remembering slights from grade school? What stable person does that? I would guess that you would have to be very careful in what you say to him as even innocent remarks to him could be interpreted as slights and insults.
2. He is a violent person. He seems to resort to violence as the main form of resolving conflict. We generally try to discourage that in our society! It is the kind of mentality that exists in less developed parts of the world. Places where daughters are killed because they, are perceived, to have besmirched the family name in some way.
3. While no genius, he is fairly intelligent.
4. He has a strict code of ethics and values which he obviously expects others to live up. Is this not EXACTLY what extremist terrorist groups do? They place their “Sharia Law” on us and use it to justify their actions! At the same time he expresses the view that we should be tolerant of other cultures which have a different set of values and morals? Obviously not coherent…
4. I have no doubt that the LAPD is corrupt and he has seen it personally. I have very little doubt that they cover up for each other. Power will be abused. We SHOULD turn the magnifying glass on the LAPD, once again!
But we should NOT make him into a martyr or hero! Whatever the case, you do not have the right to kill people because your narcissistic personality tells you that this is the only way to get your good name back. You are not the most important person in the world. The universe is NOT concerned with the fact that Dorner feels his name has been besmirched! That does not give him the right to kill people. All his options were not used up. How about writing a book instead? Going on Oprah or something? Sure it is harder to get attention to your problem, but it is also a REAL hero’s way of doing it because a real hero puts others before himself!
Who wrote this ,an insider from the LAPD? You judging his intelligence? Who are you ? Typical person who believes the corporate news media’s version of the truth What do you know about a real hero? Another comment from those in the bleachers ,who never was on the field.
Wow, you seem to be a level headed person open to multiple views. You completely judge me negatively when I state my opinion and it doesn’t jive with yours? You know nothing about me, but assume a lot!
Since we are making assumptions about each other here. I will assume you are one of those people who have cornered the market on what is right and is all knowing. Everyone is a moron and haven’t dealt with what you have right? And because of this you are a person who foments racism and bigotry because you have no room in this world for other views than your own. Which allows you to justify any action you wish, like killing people to get your good name back as Dorner has done.
What do I know about a real hero? Here is what I believe about a real hero. A real hero doesn’t kill innocent people to make his point. A real hero isn’t a self pitying narcissist who justifies these actions to himself. A real hero tries to do things the right way, even if the system is corrupt, which I have little problem believing is the case here. I don’t believe this is the right way to handle such a problem. You don’t like it? Your problem, not mine.
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” Reichsminister Paul Josef Goebbels.
This man is my fucking hero.
The politically correct, anti-2nd amendment, psychotically liberal crowd is so desperate, they resort to the support of a murderer by modifying his manifesto. He’s spot on about LAPD…but murder? Come on. If he only knew that the Bible is not myth, but the word of God he would never try to overcome evil with evil.
@Thecaldude: “the bible is not a myth”.
Really? In the 21st century you’re going to try and limp through that with a literal translation?
Okay. So, you’ve seen many talking snakes around recently? Has God recently stopped any violent catastrophes?
Are you even aware that in the first ‘christian’ century, Jesus of Nazareth isn’t mentioned ONCE by a single Roman or Greek politician, philosopher or poet. He has zero evidence to go with his name in what is arguably the most important era directly following his life. This is supposedly when all his “teachings” became famous. Sounds like a blatant contradiction.
Frame of reference. You need it. Especially seeing as how you think “God would never try to overcome evil with evil”, even though he supposedly drowned everyone on Earth once because of it.
Well you obviously think you know it all….that makes you a fool. http://youtu.be/zrRQqYGf4O0
The bible was written by men ,in separate books and put together by men in the Council Of Trent ,around 1611 Many differences between the apostles in their accounts.Most of what is written should be taken as fantasies by people drinking too much wine. Why does occurrences don’t happen today proves that.
Send me your picture… a recent one…then I will have seen a modern day talking snake.
I find this link very interesting…how MSM is reporting this by censoring his writings. The first “manifesto” I read first didn’t include all that is included here. Omitted were everything that screamed he was a liberal.
http://twitchy.com/2013/02/07/msm-covers-up-christopher-dorners-hard-left-political-views/
Unfortunately, the closest you get is a “great darkness” that had occurred, which people believe is a reference to the death of Jesus. No literal mention is made, and that useless video you sent me deflects the idea that the person they’re referring to is anecdote of Horus. This isn’t proof of Christ himself, little buddy. That’s proof of the idea of christianity being recycled, which Christ only decided to become a figure 3 demi-gods down the line, after Mithra, Krishna, and Horus himself. Of course, had you done any research at all, you wouldn’t be digging through YouTube to try and scrape together a poorly-articulated pseudo-argument.
THOSE—— for people looking at form instead of content
Oh ‘Thecaldude’, how Christian of you! Instantly a personal attack? How am I not surprised? That seems to be the go-to method for followers of Christ, today.
You can read the full uncensored version with names here.
http://hiphopandpolitics.wordpress.com/2013/02/07/uncensored-manifesto-from-retired-lapd-officer-christopher-dorner/
It is a tragedy when innocents are killed for revenge. How many asked the same question when it happened in Iraq and Afghanistan? Millions are dead including babies.
For some reason this story pulled at me so I read the unedited manifesto and was stunned because it’s in no way the rantings of a nut and to me it’s not a manifesto (which is linked to those totally out of touch with reality). To me this is his Last Will and Testament. The press is making him sound totally invalidated, just at perhaps the LAPD made him feel which maybe drove him to what he is doing now. No one is saying he is going about this the right way by shooting people, of course it’s wrong, but he even addresses that in his manifesto ‘what would you do to clear your name?”, after he seems to have exhausted all regular legal routes. I don’t know something isn’t right here.
Even how he looks. I mean I know looks can be deceiving but man that is one happy looking officer, friendly, kind, that doesn’t make sense either. No one in his past, that I have heard of thinks he could have been capable of this kind of thing but clearly he has had enough and to him at least it would bring attention to the LAPD. I fear he will die in vain though because even CNN isn’t covering it all day like they do other big stories. Has someone gotten to them too? I don’t want to sound like a doomsday believer or paranoid but could someone for just 5 minutes in the media CONSIDER that JUST MAYBE this guy was unfairly judged and treated by the LAPD and courts and it has just all gone too far? Is any journalist looking into that possibility or have they received ‘instructions’ too?
I am not a Big Brother is watching you type of person but something stinks in this case.
Please read this manifesto and see how he isn’t ranting – he is telling his stories, who he admires, who he doesn’t, telling his thoughts in what he knows will be the last chance to do so. It’s his Last Will and Testament.
He isn’t going about the end of his story the right way, of course not. But he is a man who has been pushed. For heavan’s sake he is caring for others by asking that his brain be studied for depression science – what kind of a ranting nut would ask that? But will anyone care? Will they follow his request? Or will he die in vain?
It’s sad all the way around. God Bless anyone and everyone.
All this talent that this man has is all for nought. Two wrongs don’t make a right, I think we all get that, but this man should have received the help that he was seeking. If ALL the information Mr. Dorner has stated is in fact TRUTH, we have problem. Mr Dorner expects his demise and pretty much lets us know who will carry it out. But even after all of this, we’re still going to have a problem with the agency indicated. I really hope that we get relief knowing that some agency will get to the bottom if the problem and fix it once and for all! Period.
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Don’t believe the simple stories the media feeds us follow logic people don’t “snap” for no reason. Also remember these words of wisdom: “we reap what we sow later than we sow and greater than we sow”.-Rev. Andy Stanley systems are not free from this divine law. Don’t stand silent when injustice happens even if its not you because no one can be victimized forever.
As many good points as he makes, and just as many I don’t agree with, I just don’t see these actions making a difference. Unfortunately many people in this world are corrupt, immoral, greedy, heartless, uneducated, irrational and they will continue to be . If we didn’t have these types of people to worry about I would gladly give up my guns but this is something that will never happen. I would love to see the black community wake up and be more than “bling, hoes, and cars” because i feel that is the place we lose more lives than any. I understand their struggles but that doesn’t make it acceptable to act in the manor they do and the community they live in condones it when they don’t stand up against it. In numbers we are stronger than any other force out there. This I feel is unfortunately just the world we live in and of the people who get it, we need to do the best we can within moral means to improve this world.
America supports Dorner! GO DORNER GO!
Link to appeal filed by Dorner. Interesting reading.
http://www.leagle.com/xmlResult.aspx?page=1&xmldoc=In%20CACO%2020111003006.xml&docbase=CsLwAr3-2007-Curr&SizeDisp=7
Sounds like a man that has to handle his business and won’t be around for the outcome. You never know who u r screwing over…
After reading it, I have little doubt that Evans, did kick the guy. Certainly some excessive force but not life threatening. She was up for promotion and didn’t need this on her record. That coupled with the fact that he was still a “trainee” in status with no real motive to lie, leads me to believe he did get the shaft. Why would a trainee cross that blue line? He had to know these guys would persecute him on a daily basis. Still doesn’t justify murder though!
Agree, especially of innocent people. He wanted that Quan to hurt like he hurt him with his lies. Now Quan has to look in the mirror everyday and see what his LYING heart sins got him. Maybe next time he will be about TRUTH, corrupt pig.
I am former LAPD and was screwed over by the Dept almost in the same way. I do not approve of Christopher’s actions, but I understand them. The LAPD will continue to screw with you for years after you were let go from the dept. They will make you into a horrible person, they will change their attacks against you and they want to see this situation implode like it is right now. This manifesto is not from a crazy person. It is from a person that worked hard all his life to obtain a dream, an idea and a way of life. When you lie, distort and take away all that this man worked hard to obtain and especially under false pretenses, what do you think would happen? LAPD created a monster and now they have to deal with his actions. Why isn’t the media doing their job and researching his claims? Why didn’t Anderson Cooper play his DVD evidence and start a real search for the truth? I am not saying that the murder of 3 people is right, but I understand his actions and I feel his pain. It took me 10 years to recover my life after I was forced out of the LAPD. My last days of employment were in 1996 yet to this day I still get bad mouthed by the department. My personnel packet is a mess. Everything that made me look like the good officer I was is gone, all the “bad stuff” that they made up about me is still there. All of my FTO’s daily performance reviews are gone, my accommodations gone, my positive right up’s from my supervisors are gone and anything else positive was gone! The LAPD has a history of being ruthless towards officers it does not like. Charlie Beck is a LIAR and lied to the world yesterday when he said that this Board of Rights was reviewed at all levels? GIVE ME A BREAK! It was reviewed by LAPD puppet, flakes and liars! The LAPD will RATF%$K you until you are dead. That’s what they do! The media is useless, they will only follow the hunt for this guy and that’s it. They will not report the truth! I hope he hunts down those responsible for his termination and deals with them accordingly, stay away from innocent people.
I know you are telling the truth. I too am healing from a similar type terrorist scenario. Mine is being done by Verizon who solicited the government in COINTELPRO terrorist acts towards me. They have made me an enemy of the state and send gang-stalkers after me incessantly. They stole money out of my account, tried to run me off the road to induce a fatal car wreck. They rammed my car with a truck, falsified Government documents, fraudulently took my security clearance, blackballed me, wire fraud, HIPAA fraud, burned me with satellite, numerous attempts to set me up on something, anything. It has been a 6 year nightmare of pure terrorism. I have gone to my Congressman, Senator and nothing. I am told Verizon has long arms. They are the devil, So I understand why Chris Dorner did what he did and like you, I do not agree with method. These above the law power abusing beasts destroy lives with reckless abandon and impunity. They emasculated and reduced him to the lowest common denominator what the hell did the expect. Karma does happen, the rooster does come home to roost, the sleeping gentle giant will arise when picked and picked and picked!
@ Kristen,
don’t be blind on what you are reading that not justices
It is about time the African men living in america..stand up to the blatant, white-supremacist/racist police state in america.. I am sorry for the loss of life..because of this type of abuse….So far, counting the African men riddled with bullets who were innocent this year, I have heard no apologies…We need to relax all gun laws, let us be plain about this country’s intentions for the future..My brother Dorner will not escape, I believe that is not his intention….It is not blacks or other people of color who are running to the gun stores.The message is clear..It is those who wish to win a race war, that is already over..Let us observe the way in which the media, will accuse this man of being insane, a bully, not worthy of peace….as the L.A.P.D. claims it’s place in gods plan…..and how it is completely without blame!!!!! I hope that African people everywhere begin to understand, exactly what this brave,disheartened ,alone African man has given his life for >>>America has lost all of the conflicts it has engaged in for the last fifty years..Perhaps it is time that the american people begin to understand why!!!!
People say he’s mentally ill & that may be so… Mental illness can be pushed to the edge by human beings and that seems to be the case here. How does an individual go through life attempting to do the right things and constantly be reprimanded?
Moral of the story: stop messing with people…leave well enough alone. Everyone isn’t mentally equipped to handle being constantly mistreated. Actually…who is?
My prayers are with this man and all of us
We will see much more of this as the negative base of power in the USA fights to hold on. Good people will be pushed beyond their bearable limits to take matters into their own hands, when they cannot depend on our Constitution and basic law to protect them and their truths. Clearly, when you have no hope of justice, when the halls of authority have been twisted by hatred and bigotry, when review boards and courts are stuffed with men/women who take part in the suppression of the ideals our country was founded on because they are indebted to or threatened by the power holders we will see many more desperate acts by people like Mr. Doner.
Intelligent, awake people have see it coming for a long while. The LA Police Dept. is known for it’s cruelty, bigotry, Nazi-style behavior and acts of force under color (even today without media coverage), not only to blacks, but by anyone who seeks protection and justice. I’m not black, but I’d not want the LAPD to be anywhere near me.
Mr. Doner is a good man. Look at his eyes and body language. But he has been brought to his limit. I am sorry.
Looks like LAPD created a monster … while I feel that he was probably screwed by The System, killing innocents to get back at The System(tm) is not the answer. Too bad he didn’t just cause some damage to cars or buildings … he would be forgiven if all he did was say, go blow up some shit that didn’t cost any lives … people could relate to him exposing the LAPD and the corruption … but the murder of innocents is sad and he will go out in a hail of bullets …. so sad
Keep on killing them fu&kers…..
The corruption in the police force has got to stop and it has continued for far too long. This is a prime case of “You reap what you sow.” They have finally met their match and running scared just like the public does when they’ve been harassed by the police force.
LAPD is trying to clam him down with a shoot-to-kill order, as apparent by the shootings of innocent civilians who happened to drive a car like Dorners’. WTF! LAPD should be tried for conspiracy.
Some of the links in this story are irrelevant and distracting. Examples: “Young adult” directs to a young adult novel on Amazon.com and “Tamron” links to a photography supplier.
When I worked at a locally owned 76 gas station I took it as a personal mission to clean up some of the problems around the workplace. now this did not just extend to fixing broken machinery or cleaning out back rooms full of junk. Oh no. When I was hired on there were 3 employees. an Older man who liked to drink on the job while pumping gas, A High school kid that was selling weed while working and stealing money. Then there was the general manager, a close friend of the owner that lived far away and often missed work. Shortly after I was employed we hired a local lady as the Assistant manager. She had no gas station experience and in fact i was tasked with training her. We got along fairly well. I slowly realized that she was beginning to drink on the job as well hiding cans of beer inside her thermos cups. I tried convincing the manager that both her and the older gentleman were drinking on the job and that it was a safety hazard at the gas station and illegal to boot. He said he would do something about it. They continued to drink on the job. Then I came to find out that the Assistant manager was doing meth in the restroom of the gas station. I reported this to the General manager. His reaction was outrage and anger. A few days later I find out that the owner caught the Assistant manager sucking off the general manager in the backroom…often. I guess they certainly had a little talk. I wonder how the talk with the older gentleman went.
The General Manager was fired bus seeing as he is a personal friend of the owner he was promptly rehired. A few weeks later an unusual for this area amount of snow came through and made driving in this area hellish. I ended up working from open to close by myself for three days (6 am to 12 am) on the last day a man pulled up in a truck and told me to fill it regular. As I’m pumping I notice the brand of his truck was a ford F-250 Diesel. I stop pumping (at this point 5 gallons had been pumped in while I helped other customers.) and let the guy know he just had me pump rwegular into his diesel. He get’s pretty upset and says he has to call a tow company. I offered to pump his tank empty (We have a device for pumping gas tanks empty, but don’t go getting any ideas!) and pay to fill it for him. He instead call the tow company and sends the bill to my manager, a total fof three hundred dollars. the owner of the store comes to me and says I need to pay the bill or I will be terminated. Rather then lose my job I payed the bill and stayed on for two more weeks. At this time i was approached by the general manager who said that the other employees did not like me and that they found me abrasive at work. I agreed that my personality can be grating and forceful, but that I believed their dislike came form me telling on them for their activities and for trying to stop them form breaking the rules. He then said that it was just a final straw after the Diesel truck problem and that they needed people that get along better. I of course reminded him that I paid the debt for that Diesel problem and the station lost nothing on it. It didn’t matter I was fired. Well it comes to turn out that my father (Owner of three businesses, a Fish and Chip restaurant with a Doctor Who/ Sci Fi bar, an Ice cream company and a convenience store that under our state law it is illegal to demand an employee to pay for damages due to liability. You are allowed to terminate/fire them and nothign else. Theft is a different case and they can enforce a repayment. I came in with copies of the statues and asked them to return my money to me. They then told me to leave the property and to return would be trespassing. Rather then sue them for like 300 dollars and deal with a bunch of bullshit, or blowing up the gas station and murdering innconets I chalked it up as “That shitty time I worked at a gas station” and got on with life.
This Dorner guy could have continued to serve our country in many ways. His naval carrier was in no way over nad had he been truly dedicated to serving he would have sought those paths!
He is mentally ill and needs to be locked in a loony bin. We ALL suffer unfairness and crappiness. It’s how we deal with it that makes us human.
All of you shut the hell up, he makes perfect sense, you jack asses just don’t want to listen.
Keep Fighting The Good Fight Sir! They Were Wrong And The World Needs To See It. This Is Not The First Time LAPD Has Fucked Up. I Hope He Gets Far Enough The World Takes Notice… And Too All The Haters… Read His Letter And Do The Research.. It’s All There…
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Sounds like a total victim to me. He is not responsible for anything he has done, it’s always someone else’s fault. Nothing he can do but get revenge to all of his aggressors.
im in his corner …sucks people are gonna die but they must deserve it for treating people like i shit ………….. he’s on a mission and i support him
II hate he had to go to these measure’s but people need to pay attention because as people who go about every day life we suffer he seem as if he is a very good black man and i am praying for him that God spare his life and he stop but we need to stand up for right and quit letting NO GOOD ASS PEOPLE DESTROY OR WORLD.Standing up for Right is ok scared you will lose your job is a sign of a true Coward.
I think it’s obvious that Christopher Dorner is telling the truth. What’s unique about this one man is that he has chosen to give his own life for the opportunity to show all who see with eyes wide open, the corruption, racisim, bigotry and abuse of power within the LAPD.
After only one day Chris has shown all the true colors of those who wear a badge.
When it’s about them they’ll shoot women delivering the newspaper and shoot at anyone and anything that looks black or driving a pick-up.
It’s all about them and all about how they think the law applies to the rest of us.
I was with this guy, until he started with the gun ban stuff – just another set up here, to try to take the American people’s weapons. Once our weapons are gone, the police and military can take over and no one can ever fight back again. Goodbye freedom. Think about it: This guy is shooting people, yet claims he wants to ban most guns??? This is a set up, people – just like Aurora, Sandy Hook, etc. to take our guns!!
Wow it is time to turn the heat back up on LAPD for their corruption. They have shot two innocent women looking for Christoper Donner. Recently I called LAPD because there was a crazy man walking infront of buses. I told them he was a black male 6’6 approx 35 years old and 180lbs and holding papers. They got to the scene and was trying to arrest a Black male, approx 80 years old, 5’7 in height. So i confronted them and the officer said well he looks like the description I gave. I just said OH REALLY! If you have been a victim of LAPD inbox me your complaint and I will forward it personally to two civil rights leaders based in LA! email GRACEADVOCATE@GMAIL.COM
this man is a hero why is there not an outcry this loud about the people the cops have hurt or murdered why do people only care now that some cops are dead what makes them so much more important?
It’s interesting that in his mind it’s OK for him to do violence against others, even fellow officers, for merely insulting him, yet when a fellow officer does the same thing he becomes the great crusader. In other words street justice is OK as long as he’s the one dishing it out.
I think he suffers Narcissistic Personality Disorder among other things. From a very early age he demonstrates an inflated sense of self worth. And if you disagree with him then you and you family deserve a slow and painful death.
I’m not at all surprised his heroes are leftists.
I guess it’s more exciting to agree with this nut but what if he is totally wrong? He has killed innocent people but still I see many comments agreeing with him. I am sad for people who feel bullied. We were all bullied somehow, move on with your life in a positive way.
But the police shooting at trucks that look like his? This is why we can not let the “authorities” be the only ones with guns.
LAPD needs to be investigated and then thrown out. This corruption is pathetic. I hope something is done real soon. I just can’t stop thinking about the many cover-ups they have done. Shame on them and there worthless honor. It’s things like these that start riots and commotion. LAPD, has lost my respect by all means.
He is right in what he is fighting for….COPS=Coruption. Cops and officials with authority have built into place a system that allows officers to get away with unbelievable acts of violence. TWO SMALL MEXICAN WOMEN GET THERE TRUCK RATTLED WITH BULLETS WHILE DELIVERING PAPERS. BIG BLACK MAN AND LITTLE MEXICAN WOMEN. HOW DID THIS REALLY OCCUR? Y R PEOPLE NOT UP IN ARMS FOR WHAT HAPPENS WITH THESE CORRUPT OFFICERS. KILLING HOMELESS, ATTACKING CROWD, BEATING PEOPLE TO DEATH. THE KILLINGS BY DORNER ARE WRONG AND UNFORTUNATE BUT, THIS WAS COMING. WHEN A POWER OF CORRUPTION HAS BEEN PUT INTO PLACE WITH UNSTOPPABLE POWER ONLY BLOODSHED WILL BRING DOWN THE CURTAIN TO EXPOSE THE TRUTH. THIS IS NOT A WILD KILLER. WILD KILLERS GET CAUGHT. DORNER HAS A PLAN AND HAS BEEN VERY SUCESSFUL IN IT. 6 DAYS ALL OVER SOCAL WITH NOT ONE SINGLE LEAD ON HIM. LOOKS LIKE CORRUPTION HAS AN ENEMY AND HIS NAME IS DORNER.
HOW MANY INNOCENT LIVES WERE TAKEN IN ANY WAR THAT YOU DIDNT GIVE A DA*** ABOUT? TAKING DOWN THE TALIBAN? BOTTOMLINE IS INNOCENT PEOPLE DIE BECAUSE OF CORRUPTION.
It’s about time a pissed off cop stands his ground! I lost a West Point grad cousin in the Iraq war (2nd one) when he was going to expose the REAL reasons why the US military was even overseas by being KIA during his exit from duty in a convoy. It was an intentional assassination from the higher ranks to stop him from being a ‘whistleblower’, when a MP directing traffic at a 4-way intersection in the middle of the desert suddenly changes his hand and arm signals to stop a semi-truck with a trailer from completing his forward movement. The truck lost control… and my cousin was in the lead vehicle (the commander of the convoy) and the ass end of the trailer just happened to jackknife and hit his Humvee. The impact took his head clean off. End of exposure and reasons why the military is STILL in a war.
Now imagine such a manifesto going public as Dorner so expects it to be. Then the MSM gets into the story and WHAM… our country has finally found a hero to start the revolution to remove those bastard in Congress and in power. The gun control issue is and always has been the people in power that control our society’s Constitutional rights to bear arms and defend this great nation from an enemy both foreign and DOMESTIC!
The day that Obama or Congress ends our rights to bear arms, then we all are no longer a democratic nation and the land of the free. We will be a tyranny in transition, which has been in that phase for many decades under the guidance of the filthy rich that pay our politicians off to pass laws to end our chances to live long and prosper as an average citizen of the USA.
To all those who feel sorry for the victims… just wait until Marshal Law is imposed and you all will be rounded up like the Jews were in WWII and cast into FEMA camps regardless of your stance as an American citizen. Our finance system has already taken 95% of every dollar earned since you were born and it will never end.
So much for the American dream!
How do we know that HE took the lives of innocents not connected with the police dept? Could be a frame job. These weren’t the targets he wrote about at all.
I’m in no way justifying his actions, but needless to say, i’m totally convinced that there is corruption within the department that I pray will soon be revealed. Unfortunately more than likely he will not live to see his name cleared, and due to his violent reactions, things are spiraling out of control. This is an awful situation where innocent lives are destroyed, and I believe once the TRUTH is revealed, it will take this tragedy to another level, as I believe he is speaking truth….even if partially. I’m praying that ALL involved in causing this tragedy are held accountable.
He doesn’t sound crazy. He sounds distraught with the injustices he endured.
I feel sorry for him. Maybe if he worked on a different police force, things would be different. His last writing of MLK is what I have believed. Wish he had written without the violence. But then no one would have listened
Another African hero emerges!! Raise the spirit of Nat Turner!!
What is a necessary evil? Could a public apology and open confessions of wrongdoing on behalf of LAPD put an end to a dangerous killing machine for an assigned group of people? Perhaps this should be considered… the wrong started with LAPD evidently… and with a man who has been honorably discharged from the navy. Granted, killing is wrong, and two wrongs do not make a right, but what can we do to impact the wrong accept ask that LAPD do the right thing and confess, as Mr. Dorner has already given up on his life…it’s RUINED…He simply wants his GOOD name restored before he dies. What system of people would not only risk the lives of others, endanger and risk killing innocent civilians to catch Dorner, when all he is asking for is a public apology? You mean LAPD is too corrupt to see this man’s anger and intelligence in combat, to save even the lives of their own families and children???. Keep in mind that he has had to kill innocent people and children in war, is there reason to believe that he won’t carry out his mission to the fullest? Particularly when he is well aware that LAPD would like nothing more than to quickly kill him, and cover as much as have been exposed as possible…And it is serious, and needs to change for the sake of ALL people!!!
Modern day DJango!Is this when & where the “Revolution” should start?
Fuck the LAPD
What seems to be left out is this man is a VERY talented marksman. If he had intended to kill innocents – quite simply, they would be dead. These were the “shockers” to get the attention of the LAPD – to terrify them – to wake them and this country up. What he speaks of in his manifesto are all things we have heard of or feel ourselves. As a culture we are as depressed as this man obviously is.
I agree that the immediate actions of the LAPD to “accidently” kill innocents speaks to their incompetance. He called it – he told them to be careful of cars that appeared to be like his. They should have used their common sense – nor EVERY vehicle like his will be him.
This man spent MONTHS writing this as his despair deepened. Those of you who say he could have gone through civil courts to clear his name – did you not read that he exhausted the civil courts in fighting the decisions made against him. All he wanted was – not to get his job abck – but to have his good name and reputation restored to him, but of course, we all know that was not going to happen no more than civilians of this country stand up to what is happening to the morality of those who make decisions for all of us in D.C. We have become sheep, we have become those who turn a blind eye – sheeple is what American citizens have become labeled. The very things our Constitution was designed to so – empower us as citizens to stand up and say, “No! No! No! This is not the path we want our country to be led on.” This man is sacrificing his life to make a point – albeit in a horrible and extremist way. He IS the embodiment of the rage we act out everyday in our video games, movies, our speech, the viciousness and corruptness of the campaign for the very leaders of our country and the desensitizing of all of us in the name of “entertainment” the very corruption within those who took an oath to “serve and protect” the very people they abuse and exploit. The US has now become a breeding ground of mentally stressed human time bombs and country where the “good guys” are losing ground everyday in a passive aggressive rich – empowered vs poor – dis-empowered cold war. They are taking our jobs, our “middle class” economy, the quality education of our young and the very hope we all have for our futures. We are all frightened by those who are supposed to be looking out for our (each and every one of us, rich and poor, the mentally and physical unwell and the those who have hit the bottom of misfortune and find themselves homeless and turn to drugs and alcohol as a way of coping (besides drugs and alcohol are cheaper and easier to obtain than recovering a productive and self-sufficient life – an subconscious, non-violent suicide if you will. Our hearts are all drowning in the despair born of hopeless and feelings of helplessness (“what can I do, I am only one person and the system I am supposed to use to make a stand is now an institution of keeping use down (for the wealthy? for the government? or the one and the same?”) that intensifies every single day
Other than the method of making his point, to have his voice freed from suppression, this man’s feelings could be EVERYMAN’S: his accomplishments, his pride, his ability to succeed in his chosen fields and to retire someday having done his duty to community and country, but especially the loss of his voice and integrity, have been yanked out from under him by a conspiracy of “brothers” – HIS brothers (and sisters). Dying for a civilian would garner their honoring of him (in his words a sham) as a hero, but to stand up against the hypocrisy within makes him a villain (no a sham).
I don’t agree with his methods but I understand deeply his despair and hopelessness. I fear the escalation of extreme violent acts against innocents in this country
Anyway, the bottom line is I UNDERSTAND him – I do not understand his way of getting attention. He could have abducted one of the people who wronged him in their home or public place – released his manifesto, and died by cop suicide and received the same media / public attention he now has. I hope his intention, once the media has begun getting people to THINK, TALK, INVESTIGATE his allegation of corruption within his department is to refrain from further violence. At that point if he chooses to die by his own hand or suicide by cop, would be his business.
I just read my post – it is obvious I did not spend months in my response – I apologize for my lack of coherence and punctuation, and hope that you get the gist of what I am trying to convey. My response is a gut response – not one of well-thought out commentary.
@Purplemuse:
Bravo!!!! Well written statement with my beliefs and understanding this tragedy concur!
Honestly though, if he had not killed people to “get his point accross”, would we have ever even heard of this guy? Would people outside of LA understand the depth of corruption in the LAPD? I don’t think so, and in that sense, this man will become a martyr for what he believes.
I am currently writing about the reasons why he killed the cops… Note 2 FBI agents visited me this morning after reading “The FBI and the Dept of Homeland Security Failure” from http://www.drturi.com/the-fbi-and-the-dept-of-homeland-security-failure/ – I will elaborate more soon so watch for “The Life and Fate of Christopher Dorner” wich will be posted there soon.
Wake up People…The Matrix has you
He was called names. He was swatted in first grade. He was lied to. He was lied about. He was fired. None of this justifies killing another human. EVER.
the only proof that we have that christopher dorner actually killed mrs quon and her fiancee is the word of the same agency that is after him. The journalists need to do their due diligence
Im not saying what he’s doing is right, but it still doesn’t give LAPD the right shoot up in innocent people, there no better than Dorner. The only thing is that LAPD got away with for many years now its time to investigate this corrupt department for doing this to helpless civilians. I would want him to be alive when they arrest and prosecute Dorner, Im curious to see what lawyers could bring out from the dark side in the LAPD, but I have a feeling he will be killed on sight.
As an ex cop myself, he is truely telling the truth. I had to leave law enforcement myself because of my sex, ethnicity and my refusal to go along with the Code of Blue> you are either for us or agaianst us and if you are against us. you cant stay with us, you have to go, one way or the other. That meant that I could have been caught in some “friendly fire”, in the back; or on a call and you call for backup and no one shows up to assist you with the several suspects you have “proned out” on the ground because, somehow, the other officers were on a different frequency. OOPPS, how did that happen. I know how he felt, betrayed by your own. My rose colored glasses came off in 6 years and I quit. They (white officers) even gave me a nickname “social worker” because I tried to be different and actually help bridge the distance between community and police officers.
You people thats making ignorant comments, don’t know what it is like to have EVERTHING ripped from your life all because you were doing the right thing. I don’t condone his method of killing, but this country and its Racist police force needs to change. This has been going on long enough. Ask yourselves, how many police officers have been found guily of killing an African-American, even when we see the evidence on camera,,,,Rodney King, the woman in the car that was shot 30 times and she was old and had only a knife, Travon Martin, the retarded young man whose head was slamed on a hot ploice cars hood….etc I can go on. The LAPD is corrupt and I see no one commenting or being outraged on the HISTORY of Racism.
Wake up America, its gonna get worse if something doesn’t change . Because if Im not mistaken the bible says that, you shall reap what you have sown; an eye for an eye; what goes around comes around. I know that GODS says “justice is mine” but he did use other humans, tribes and cultures to exact that vengence. LAPD chickens have now come home to roost! GOD Bless your soul Chris
Sorry it had to be this way my brother,but I feel your pain & understand as many of us have been in similar situations in dealing with race & the so called -white racist power structure. I knew this day would come that the right Black man would be wronged ,it was just a matter of time. The heavens have been sending us warning signs long before Rodney King yet we have failed to heed the warnings.Now someone like you was created & developed,some say all things happen for a reason & never question the reason why things happen,may God be with you for he created you!!??
@Neo
It’s ironic that you somehow comment about The Matrix with a username that I’ve been using for years on other websites or memberships!
If you care to search for me… keyword ‘Incident at Fort Polk, March 14, 1976’ which is related to a book published not to long ago titles, “Incident at Fort Benning”. May be we all should be awakened from the Matrix! Or Google this; Pegasus Project with Kerry Cassidy, or… City utilities adding chemical ‘FLUORIDE’ into potable water supplies… and the list goes on!
As far as having the right to shoot regular citizens on the street during a debacle kept from public media until that event… does anyone remember the NDAA law that Obama signed December of 2011? Think about the constant tragic news casts of horrific violent crimes with disturbed perpetrators being singled out, then the MSM is concentrating on guns and ammo control over that period of time! It is exactly what a very intelligently planned operation would be like that a military mission was ordered to do. I even know people personally that were trained assassins by the Special Forces black-ops unit back in the Vietnam war and who were still involved in Cambodia and Laos until 1981! That war ended March 28, 1975!!!
The story that I finally went public with regarding top secret Army projects, plus how my life and career from my expedient discharge date until present, was destroyed. I could never recover my pride, my dignity nor my honor as a red blooded American, born and raised to protect and defend our great country, nor will I ever feel safe from the power that our military and people in power really have, which is exactly the manifesto that Dorner published. I came from deep political roots from the south, my family believed that I was crazy and was told by the Army top brass that it was all drugs that was the root of my “Incident at Fort Benning”.
My father was a highly respected WWII US Navy Frogman and looked that Brig General running my post square in the eye and told him, “My son has never lied to me. So why are you telling lies right now?”
The truth about what we see and hear in the MSM is all a bunch of pre-planned ACTS… created by our criminal leaders of our country to steer the public away from the truth. It’s called a ‘Diversion’. A military tactic of war in an offensive mission.
Do you all catch my drift yet? I caught Dormers’ drift in his writing. The only parts that I don’t like is the babbling part about the control of guns. I am almost complete with my BSA degree in Creative Writing for Entertainment and all I smell here is a post-event publication to continue the negative media broadcasts and possibly the key to the revolt that our leaders and rich people are so scared will happen. I can tell when a writer stopped his declaration and a ‘ghost writer’ stepped in to cover up this horrific tragedy. I feel for the victims, their families and friends. But I feel for the rest of our American citizens that don’t, can’t, or won’t react to the truth or what is about to happen very soon. If I were a cop or have any association with what Dorner has published that he will do…
I WOULD STAND DOWN and stop ASAP!
Negotiations will not happen. This will awaken America up for once. And I stand my own ground when it goes south for the winter (spring, summer or fall).
Two times cops in LA, lied on me- parking meter not expired and ticket in window, and stopping me on highway without reason and looking insight , then giving ticket for not heaving seat belt- passenger in rear.
The below quote
“If you had a well regulated AWB, this would not happen. The time is now to reinstitute a ban that will save lives. Why does any sportsman need a 30 round magazine for hunting? Why does anyone need a suppressor? Why does anyone need a AR15 rifle? This is the same small arms weapons system utilized in eradicating Al Qaeda, Taliban, and every enemy combatant since the Vietnam war. Don’t give me that crap that its not a select fire or full auto rifle like the DoD uses. That’s bullshit because troops who carry the M-4/M-16 weapon system for combat ops outside the wire rarely utilize the select fire function when in contact with enemy combatants. The use of select fire probably isn’t even 1% in combat. So in essence, the AR-15 semiautomatic rifle is the same as the M-4/M-16. These do not need to be purchased as easily as walking to your local Walmart or striking the enter key on your keyboard to “add to cart”. All the firearms utilized in my activities are registered to me and were legally purchased at gun stores and private party transfers. All concealable weapons (pistols) were also legally register in my name at police stations or FFL’s. Unfortunately, are you aware that I obtained class III weapons (suppressors) without a background check thru NICS or DROS completely LEGALLY several times? I was able to use a trust account that I created on quicken will maker and a $10 notary charge at a mailbox etc. to obtain them legally. Granted, I am not a felon, nor have a DV misdemeanor conviction or active TRO against me on a NCIC file. I can buy any firearm I want, but should I be able to purchase these class III weapons (SBR’s, and suppressors) without a background check and just a $10 notary signature on a quicken will maker program? The answer is NO. I’m not even a resident of the state i purchased them in. Lock n Load just wanted money so they allow you to purchase class III weapons with just a notarized trust, military ID. Shame on you, Lock n Load. NFA and ATF need new laws and policies that do not allow loopholes such as this. In the end, I hope that you will realize that the small arms I utilize should not be accessed with the ease that I obtained them. Who in there right mind needs a fucking silencer!!! who needs a freaking SBR AR15? No one. No more Virginia Tech, Columbine HS, Wisconsin temple, Aurora theatre, Portland malls, Tucson rally, Newtown Sandy Hook. Whether by executive order or thru a bi-partisan congress an assault weapons ban needs to be re-instituted. Period!!!
Mia Farrow said it best. “Gun control is no longer debatable, it’s not a conversation, its a moral mandate.”
Sen. Feinstein, you are doing the right thing in leading the re-institution of a national AWB. Never again should any public official state that their prayers and thoughts are with the family. That has become cliche’ and meaningless. Its time for action. Let this be your legacy that you bestow to America. Do not be swayed by obstacles, antagaonist, and naysayers. Remember the innocent children at Austin, Kent, Stockton, Fullerton, San Diego, Iowa City, Jonesboro, Columbine, Nickel Mines, Blacksburg, Springfield, Red Lake, Chardon, Aurora, and Newtown. Make sure this never happens again!!!
In my cache you will find several small arms. In the cache, Bushmaster firearms, Remington precision rifles, and AAC Suppressors (silencers). All of these small arms are manufactured by Cerberus/Freedom Group. The same company responsible for the Portland mall shooting, Webster , NY, and Sandy Hook massacre.
You disrespect the office of the POTUS/Presidency and Commander in Chief. You call him Kenyan, mongroid, halfrican, muslim, and FBHO when in essence you are to address him as simply, President. The same as you did to President George W. Bush and all those in the highest ranking position of our land before him. Just as I always have. You question his birth certificate, his educational and professional accomplishments, and his judeo-christian beliefs. You make disparaging remarks about his dead parents. You never questioned the fact that his former opponent, the honorable Senator John McCain, was not born in the CONUS or that Bush had a C average in his undergrad. Electoral Candidates children (Romney) state they want to punch the president in the face during debates with no formal repercussions. No one even questioned the fact that the son just made a criminal threat toward the President. You call his wife a Wookie. Off the record, I love your new bangs, Mrs. Obama. A woman whose professional and educational accomplishments are second to none when compared to recent First wives. You call his supporters, whether black, brown, yellow, or white, leeches, FSA, welfare recipients, and ni$&er lovers. You say this openly without any discretion. Before you start with your argument that you believe I would vote for Obama because he has the same skin color as me, fuck you. I didn’t vote in this last election as my choice of candidate, John Huntsman, didn’t win the primary candidacy for his party. Mr. President, I haven’t agreed with all of your decisions but of course I haven’t agreed with all of your predecessors decisions. I think you’ve done a hell of a job with what you have been dealt and how you have managed it. I shed a tear the night you were initially elected President in 2008. I never thought that day would occur. A black man elected president in the U.S. in my lifetime. I cracked a smiled when you were re-elected in 2012 because I really didn’t think you were going to pull that one off. Romney, stop being a sore loser. You could’ve exited graciously and still contributed significantly to public service, not now. Mr. President, get back to work. Many want to see you fail as they have stated so many times previously. Unfortunately, if you fail, the U.S. fails but your opponents do not concern themselves about the big picture. Do not forget your commitment to transparency in your administration. Sometimes I believe your administration forgets that. America, you will realize today and tomorrow that this world is made up of all human beings who have the same general needs and wants in life for themselves, their kin, community, and state. That is the freedom to LIVE and LOVE. They may eat different foods, enjoy different music, have different dialects, or speak a second language, but in essence are no different from you and I. This is America. We are not a perfect sovereign country as we have our own flaws but we are the closest that will ever exist.
Unfortunately, this is not the first time an authoritative figure has lied on me.”
Taken from the manifesto is the “Ghost Writer” and his/her vague attempt to stir the media up and the citizens of our country to show how insane gun control has become. It’s more fuel for the fire.
How about the LAPD blaming the mistaking identity shooting incident of a mother and daughter on Dorner just like he said they would. We all know the real about the LAPD. Dorner is just the first to stand up and fight with no regard of losing his life. None of us advocate a loss of life (that’s GODS job). But it’s nice to see a little fear in the hearts of the fearless above the law LAPD.
Dorner is clearly an articulate, intelligent brother who, like so many ethnic minorities in this country, got sick and tired of being sick and TIRED. His manifesto is an accurate representation of the myriad of injustices that have been perpetuated upon the American black man for centuries. The LAPD is a bastion of injustice and the officers who work there represent the establishment. Yes it is reprehensible to kill innocent people but power concedes nothing without a demand. It is equally reprehensible that so many innocent lives have been taken over the years at the hands of police brutality! Finally, America is paying attention. Rock on, Dorner. So smart of you to send those packages to the media. Hope you escape to a tropical island and live out your days in peace and obscurity. And he was right in his manifesto: Michelle O’s bangs are great and so is Chick-Fil-A.
Mr. Dorner I commend you for what you are doing and for servicing our country. After reading what you have wrote, as a minority, I understand the troubles that you are going through. But please leave the innocent children, families, and wives behind. They are not the ones that you should be going after. They will solve no purpose to your legacy.
I am so happy to see that there are other ex LAPD officers that are writing on here and giving there opinion, I am just and ex security officer (which I am nothing) but I can express my opinions just like anyone else. And of course I read the manifest which Chris Dorner wrote, its very sad. My husband and I are praying that he is not killed for speaking the truth about the LAPD. And if he does get kill, I hope to god that this does not cause another riot in Southern California. So people who wish for the LAPD to kill him think twice, we don’t need another war. I will leave you with this to think about.. If you are tried and are driving in one of L.A.P.D route of driving the street and you are stopped and made to do the 4 and walk in a straight line and touch your nose and told to look straight ahead and come to realize there a cop with a gun pointed at your head and you yourself know you’re a law abiding citizen, how would that make you feel. Well for me that was embaressing. So for you that wish the worst for him SHAME on you…
They mean to kill Dorner or anyone that looks like him…
Racism in anyway is wrong there’s no excusable..whether your black or white, Asian, frilom India or Pakistan …alot of people tried to make me pick a side but wrong. Is wrong I’m white but have 2 black Kidd’s and 3 black grandkids so I’m progressive but wrong is wrong! Peoplee hate but not my kids or me sooooii Fu@$*%## em and go forward. <€°
@ The Wizard
I’ve only just used this moniker here, today. Some of those shameless plugs look pretty interesting.
Just passing on what Trinity said onscreen. It’s just as relevant here….the wool being pulled over our lives (the term I’ll use) and all that.
So, I’m just wondering what they’re doing, where ever they’re doing it, that they have to distract us with Mr. Dorner’s life…?
I’ve read somewhere about a military-like buildup in Ca. allegedly to pre-test strategies to be used later on the rest of the country…didn’t like the sound of it then, but now that this is happening, makes one go hmm…
Crazy guy shoots bus driver, kidnaps child, holds child in underground bunker while police fly drone overhead. hmm… (why a drone?)
Other stuff we’re all well aware of…
It’s gonna hit the fan. Probably sooner, rather than later.
It sucks that the only way to get attention was by killing but this guy is brilliant. I hope the system recognizes all bullshit and they make it fair for everyone!
@ Neo
Tell me why you use Neo as your posting name… and I’ll open a can of worms up so deep with secrets being withheld from the public that it’ll make you change your posting name to Eon
Im sorry but WTF r some of you saying yes he has killed but the people involved in Mr. Dorners were in the wrong and they ENDED THIS MANS CAREER TO SAVE SHITTY OFFICERS you know it if you actually used some common sense and watched as how the Los Angeles Chief Of Police responded to a reporters question of “what if these allegations to your department are true will there be any kind of investiga-” before she was finished she was rudely cut off with a solid NO (plus the chiefs facial expression was one of “don’t go there” and “you stepped on a sensitive subject”) come on r u really going to believe a person who gets defensive about a question THAT HE KNOWS THE ANSWER TO BUT DOESN’T WANT TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE CORRUPT OFFICERS IN HIS DEPARTMENT or can people not understand factual evidence and coverups…. LAPD nows the time to man up and admit your wrongs we all FUCK UP every once in a while but a FUCK UP and CORRUPT OFFICER are two different things shit if i were to do half these things that the LAPD has done i would be serving multipule life sentences ARE COPS OUT OF REACH… I GUESS
This man is not sick, he has been disrespected and disregarded as a human being. Do not judge unless you have been in his shoes. How do you know what he has been through? This is a man with nothing to lose. How many of you know what it feels like??? This is a sad sad situation. This could have and should have been handled properly which would have saved lives.
Wwwrrnnggg people hate sucks. @AvegengingA
You have my support and I am a law-abiding white man.
Well, Wizard, reading through this whole thing seemed very Matrix like so the line from Trinity just popped into my head. When I hit the post button, the page asked for email and name so I thought “what the heck, Neo it is” (just for today)
I’m disillusioned enough to know a few secrets myself. Search d.u.m.b. on youtube (Deep Undeground Military Base) That machine is awe/fear inspiring. How about the “earthquake” that hit D.C. and Colorado almost simultaneously? It was the underground railway that connects the two, being nuked…
There is no gold in Fort Knox.
The U.S. has been under military courts rule since the 1930’s.
“We The People” does not mean what you think it means.
The “United States” is a corporation. People are commodities.
Washington D.C. is NOT U.S. soil.
I have researched the corruption in our government since the day I was escorted off base, at the back gate, and not one foot further, upon my UNDESIRABLE (Chapter 13 of the UCMJ) Discharge for INSUBORDINATION, for not disclosing certain details of a secret ‘experiment’ gone horribly wrong. I am not a snitch or a rat!
My story has already been told over the past few years with online radio talk shows. I was threatened by the top brass if I ever exposed the “Incident” that did occur in 1976, that involved highly classified experiments, top-secret ‘alien’ weaponry testing and mind-control techniques that are to this day being denied to ever be known or used.
I was so afraid of our government and being threatened to be killed, along with my family, that for decades I stayed ‘off grid’ so that I could survive long enough to tell about it. Only 3 years ago did I discover from requesting my Army personnel records, that my discharge was all a massive cover-up and the discharge filed under my record as an Army Combat Engineer, was non other than a UNDER OTHER THAN HONORABLE one! That… is similar to what Dormer was cast out of after his young life was forever changed by the corruption and lies.
I do know how Dorner feels. I do know why he is going public in his own fashion. And of all things, I already know where this mess is going very soon. I’m not at liberty at present to disclose certain ‘instances’ of the near future… but I will say, that the next 13 years will be the major factor of where the human race will be, just to survive what is already on the platform being orchestrated, if not with Dormer, and the many other unknown events that follow in this aftermath.
I know reading this seems to be unreal and WTF???… is he trying to say here… so I will leave this blog by saying, as James T Kirk used to say on TV, “Beam me up, Scotty, there’s no intelligent life down here!”
Sounds like the lapd is a corrupt racist organization, needs the FBI to step in with. Serious investigation
Seems legit.
I myself couldn’t say if I personally/physically will be here in 13 years. Suffice it to say, in 1976 I was turned down by All branches of military because I wasn’t moral enough after being popped by my 8th grade principle for having 2 joints in my locker how many years earlier. So, yeah, WTF? Shit just don’t make any sense at all.
These days, it just seems that cops come out of the tailpipe of my car. No warning. There they are. Always tailgating. Always trying to make me uncomfortable enough that supposedly if I were a criminal having had done Something, I would bolt away from them justifying a high speed chase or some such. They’re Never polite. They’re even downright angry when there’s nothing they can nail me for…then they’ll just break out a tail light so they can give me a ticket.
Anyways, I always say “If you’re not outraged or scared, you haven’t been paying attention”
See Ya. Better yet, take me with…?
I think we already know the history of the LAPD they are not credible. Its a shame, may Allah forgive this man for he not know. As a man w/ integrity I feel his pain. Unfortunately he couldn’t turn it around to exploit these ungodly folk and still maintain his integrity. I live with this fear that someone will try my soul this way… istand with dude.
We don´t have a Gun problem in this country, as much as a Despair problem. Most gun violence is suicide, which it seems this case is as well. My heart goes out to this obviously intelligent and altruistic man. When will we see any accountability in the U.S.? He is resorting to the solution that he has been taught; violence. Another football traumatic brain injury, compounded by a bad education. Please, please, please do not let your sons be taken and brainwashed by the military services. There is no merit in what they do. Had he been trained in Philosophy, History, Art, he could have made a great contribution. We need transparency and accountability, a glasnost in not only the LAPD, but police departments and government agencies all over the country. Truly we are in apocalyptic times. Most people don´t know that the word means unveiling, or revealing. Let all be revealed. Let Justice reign. Send love to this brother, his alleged victims, and the people the LAPD kill with impunity. Blessings, know we are one.
I support this man on his attack on the LAPD, they have indeed not changed a second since the Rodney King and the racists days. I hope Barack Obama will shake up this racist America we are living in today, because if the government don’t do something soon, people will do. And you did not silent us after the 60th and Martin Luther King , revolution is near!
Ummm… “Uncensored”?
That implies complete…
So, why does it end partway through a word and a sentence?
Seems that, if Mr. Dorner went through all the trouble to put all of these thoughts, all this evidence, all the warnings, all the details, and everything else into a manifesto, he would not have just ended it halfway through a thought like this.
It takes the credibility of the contents that are not confirmed by other sources away.
I guess it’s possible that this WordPress site only allows content of ~11,350 characters, but I would hope that, in a case such as that, the author would mention something about it in the comments. To be completely fair and honest, I did not read all of the comments, as there are so many at this point, but I did read many of the early posts, and none commented on this issue.
So, if there is an explanation, even if that explanation is “This is where his real manifesto stopped,” it would be a good idea to post that just to quell the beginnings of any conspiracy theories, though there will be many of them about this incident…
None of us will know the truth until he is captured alive and is able to speak to a reporter without restraint.
When they make the movie about this, they should have LL COOL J Mr. Dorner !!!! All he would have to do is put on about 60lbs !!!!!
F%@K THE POLICE
i dont blame him for what he did these pigs treat us like shit
Looks like the LAPD wants this man dead more than alive . So there’s a saying ” A dead man can’t talk ” two people shot in a case of mistaken identity , ya right .. look who’s paranoid , now there’s a law suit for negligent which to me is attempted murder . The truth is about to unfold and LAPD is being put on blast . Paramount Pictures will soon have another movie up there with Traiming Day and End Of Watch ..
I wonder if he reads any of the comments on these boards. Everyone has to sleep eventually, even in tense circumstances. I bet a lot of the comments could put him to sleep from their boring lack of logic and reading comprehension.
Isn’t it possible he’s fully aware that the folks in the LAPD are going to be so revenge conscious of him now that THEY will resist authorities, such as the FBI, themselves? That there will be petty turf wars between LEO’s, both local and federal? I believe it would be correct for the FBI to take command and control over the pursuit of this individual named Christopher Dorner. Wether it was he or any other person bent on an extreme search for Justice. He has and is accusing the LAPD of unethical conduct. For the LAPD to now be trying to hunt him like hungry wolves is an outrageously dangerous situation to allow to linger for too long. Other innocents will be shot at or, worse, killed without keeping tempers in check.
The LAPD have had problems with internal corruption for decades folks. They are one of the largest, if not THE largest, police forces in the country. Where you have more people, you have more room for error and, yes, a tendency to ignore unprofessional behavior which should be reported immediately and confronted. And not by pseudo-investigations and dog and pony shows which, ultimately, amount to no justice at all. The thin blue line should be impeccably straight, or at least it should be a cultural ideal, not perpetually bending and blurring.
It is incredibly sad that Christopher worked so hard for so long and felt so disrespected in spite of his achievements. His complaints are not illegitimate and they should be investigated and dealt with fairly..That he feels his only reaction was to become the thing he despised is a choice he didn’t make suddenly. Like the corruption he hates, which spreads like rust over metal or cancer in the blood stream, his hurt and contempt made him vunerable to catching the exact same disease. Worse, he openly admits, which takes great courage in this country to do because of the social stigmas we all associate to it ( unjustly ), that he was having serious problems with Depression. Even so, he tried to keep working and he tried to keep smiling and he tried to uphold the playbook he thought he was being trained and paid to do, only to find out that, for some, the playbook is more a decorative vase than a useful utensil.
While I do not agree with Mr. Dorner’s current methods, because he feels like his only option is his own death and he compels some who are vile to feel the same now, I do believe there is truth in his good-bye letter. I wish he would lay down his arms and turn himself in. Yes, he would be punished because he, too, has now become a law breaker. But that does not mean his life is forfeit and can never hold any value again. It can. He would surely have to endure a great deal of anger and disappointment from his fellow citizens and the relatives of those deceased in the initial circumstances of his arrest and trial, but, perhaps, even more of his truth could be heard. Even more of his story could be told and, best of all, by he himself. He’s clearly bright and articulate, so would have no problem writing about his life and addressing issues such as Depression openly. Perhaps in the future more people, including children, could see that a human being can overcome a great deal of internal turmoil compounded by the external challenges of trying to achieve all you can for yourself. Nobody can ever say he has not tried to do that. He clearly has. His clearance wasn’t a piece of candy handed out at Halloween. His training isn’t something you learn online through YouTube like some commando wanna-be’s do. It was and is R-E-A-L.
Please Mr.Dorner…please consider an alternative plan to the one you are acting on now. The greatest generals in History have change their tactics as a matter of routine, so there’s no shame in it at all. And many people, good people, have made catastrophic choices and then recovered from them, particularly after a time to contemplate and reasses their own value systems which, like anything else,rise the highest when they are flexible to the winds that beat around them.
For the rest of you…please think before you write. Please think about the things that Mr.Dorner is trying to really say. The LAPD *has* behaved very poorly and done awful things and like any big institution, sometimes those things can be dusted under the rug a bit too easily by those immediately around it. A kind of apathy sets in that, at worse, infects from the top down. But please do not damn nor judge the many members of the LAPD who are trying like hell to do the best job they can and often in extremely hostile situations. Not all cops are bad cops and saying ‘F the police!’ sure sounds tough holmes, but that kind of outburst is better left in the mouths of petulant and spoiled teenagers; not men. The men and women who choose to work in Law Enforcement are just that: enforcers of the Law. If you don’t like the laws, you don’t kill the enforcers. Not in this country. You become active in your own community and V-O-T-E! Vote for mayors and sheriffs and judges and commissioners and such. Don’t just vote for the President and then go back to sleep. It doesn’t help the environment that frustrates your daily lives.
To the LAPD: Please ladies and gentlemen, conduct yourselves professionally. Admit if you feel anger and revenge towards Christopher and lay down your own arms voluntarily, because if you feel it you have lost objectivity and losing that can, as should be apparant, result in the wrongful loss of human life. For the commanders, while everyone appreciates your stress you MUST ensure that none of the officers intent on being the big shots after the big prize are allowed to participate. I am sure I am not alone in having full confidence that the ultimate goal is to avoid playing judge, jury, and executioners. Most intelligent adults out here understand that is NOT your job and you would never, ever allow any such mindset to look for Christopher.
To all of us…this is a terribly tragic situation and, like that of the slaughter of children at Sandy Hook, now is NOT the time, not now, to be writing profane, immature, cruel, vindictive, petty political diatribes on either Christopher’s back or the LAPD’s. Be examples to the younger ones in this country and demonstrate some self-control and restraint. If you comment, please try to do so with SOME sense of humanity instead of just blarting things out senselessly and uselessly. Since so much bad has happened, let’s hope for something good to happen instead of becoming screeching animals with a blood lust and shouting,”Crucify!”. Are you part of the sweaty mob or are you above the fray?
Thinking before reacting is a mark of intelligence. Acting without thought is as useful as howling into the wind. It builds nothing and no one cares about it.
I saw an old man once shouting at passing traffic. I never saw one driver pay him any attention. When people shout on message boards regarding serious topics, I always think of that old man…
Dorner put his sweat blood & soul into his career for this country which let him down. The corrupt LAPD & FBI cops r like hitler & won’t sleep until they have his blood. If by some miracle God saves him by escaping somewhere, he should be pardoned & restored. But like the wronged prophet Samson, he probably will die with many.
Marcus Aurelius: Extremely insightful post. Many very logical, caring and intelligent thoughts and advice, concerning everyone mentioned.
Kudos.
As a Former Marine and believing in honor and justice all i say is you have my backing 100%. There is not 1 person in this country that does not know and believe that police do, and will always, overstep their boundaries just because they have a badge that says they can. I know that if we, as civilians, did some of the stuff that police officers do, we would end up in prison with the key thrown away.
I am sorry to the very depth of my heart that you will die to make a point in this whole situation, but with gods speed and my knowledge of what it has taken for you to stand up for what is right. I hope that now there are people like me that think you are doing the right thing, to maybe prevent this from happening in the future, so god bless and if i could, i would give you any help that i could, but unfortunately I have no way to help so good luck my friend and god bless. For those who did you wrong they have to know that they will answer in the end even if you do not get your revenge!
WAKE UP WORLD!!!!!!!! SOMEONE HAS FINALLY HAD ENOUGH AND STOOD UP FOR THE REST OF US . GOD BLESS YOU AGAIN SAILOR
how come many people here are so concerned with innocent people dorner killed but not concerned with innocent people the lapd victimized and killed, the lapd and nypd are the most corrupt police departments in the nation, I hope this kills as many as them as possible, the lapd are bunch scumbags. forge on dorner!
Hunt him down and kill the psycho bastard. Put him out of his misery with prejudice. Anyone who liked Django Unchained deserves to die.
Another logical supporter of gun control at the mike. Just what we need. Yea, yea, yea, thanks Mr. Crazy Narcissist.
Take him out.
a case of Black Rage not being bullied just 500-6000 years of injustice, white supremacy/racism
It’s funny how I’m sitting here in agreement with you and many of the statements you’ve made regarding many of these beautiful and/or talented people but Charlie Sheen does not qualify as awesome! I’m praying for you as Jesus instructed. You stopped killing people because you actually hate what you’ve already done. However you end up, only God can judge you. What everyone else thinks is more irrelevant than what they may care to share regarding my post. It hardly matters now. Jesus loves us all. We are all the same, we just don’t make the same choices. Peace to you! Call His name and be delivered! The battle is not yours… But He seems to have used YOU! Hmmm…
Im a church going christian. One thing that I learned from church was to never judge someone unless you walked in their shoes, to let god be the judge. Do I think murder is wrong? Absolutely. But at the same time we also need to try and understand the reasons for peoples actions. Maybe this will be a wakeup call to the LAPD and similar people/orginaizations and anyone that tries to bully people and treat them like crap that they will now be held accountable for the way that they treat people. Take the good with the bad.
please read http://www.drturi.com/warning-to-the-fbi-dr-turi-and-christopher-dorner/
America is broken. We are to blame.
A note to KFI: Perhaps your host is not getting the picture on Police Department lawyers; they do not actually do justice to their defendants (literally), they work against them. Randy Quan has lost a lot of cases for someone who intends to win, the record tells you it would be impossible to lose so consistently, if he actually intended to win. Same with the Public Defenders; they fail too frequently to actually be attempting to win, they lose conspiratorially, they usually are in cahoots with the police and the prosecution (as is the judge), supposedly to protect the public’s investment in training police officers (somehow the dirty cops do not get fired, but the Dorners do; for an investment, I would not call it worthy of protecting); when you see a public defender who is at the public defenders office for more than six months, the only reason is because that attorney is dealing innocent defendants into convictions, for the DA. It’s usually a trade game, ‘Give me a felony win, I’ll give you a few misdemeanor wins,’ guilt or innocents matter not. Dorner is not the rat backed into a corner that he would have us see him as, Dorner is a liberator, he has exposed exactly the abuses that victimize us the most: he killed Monica Quan because the job that her father has, and that prospered her, is the one position in the police department that extracts the greatest cost to us via conspiracy and corruption; with the intent of eliminating cops who do not go along with the brotherhood. Killing her has meaning. You are not dealing with a thug, Dorner is an educated enlightened man who has his eyes open. You should give him the credibility that he deserves. Dorner is a person who considers more than just himself. He never said anything about cops robbing arrestees, he did not focus on the trivial, he could have mentioned how many bribes the cops take, but, he has a much more important mission than that. We won’t understand it fully until it has been accomplished. Perhaps you should have a guest civil rights attorney on your show, if only because you are so off target as to appear clownish, by not considering the civil rights issues. I’ve seen cops kill innocent people in gruesome horrific ways, sometimes cops kill homeless people with homeless signs, just to go into a man’s pocket for a dollar, or for an easy ticket quota arrest. But from where you sit, having never seen cops routinely lure and gang rape teenagers, or beat an old lady to death, or throw a woman from a squad car onto a railroad track in front of an oncoming train (happens twice a month in OC): from where you sit everything looks all spiffy and clean; the white hats are not tarnished from where you sit, you think they look just dandy. But from where the rest of us sit, it’s time for a change, whatever it takes. I guarantee you that right now Evans and her buds are trading cell phone pics of people who they have brutalized to death. I guarantee it. she would have kicked the arrestee to death if Dorner had not been there, and yet Dorner got fired, Evans got promoted. Later tonight Evans and her buds will commit rapes with Evans as the look out, by cornering street walkers on threat of jail, and before morning they will roll a dozen drunks, who will end up hospitalized with skull injuries. Before they go home they will count their kick-back loot from shaking down junkies. Then tomorrow they will lie in court over and over and over again to gain convictions on innocent citizens in the absence of a crime. And it will continue for years, that is why Dorner is going to kill them, thank God, at last someone is doing something about her and her kind. Thank God. -NC
This man is not crazy, just fed up i truly admire he’s personal revolution.
Please keep this in mind as the media tries to make this man out to be a monster…
He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it.
Martin Luther King Jr.
We as a human race are going to loose this amazing man…. please pass on his message. All the LAPD has to do is come clean… they are killing their own.
I personally will be morning the loss of Christopher Dorner if they ever find him..i applaud his courage for standing up for what it morally right… but i do not condone his housekeeping methods. Its very hard to keep going when you feel like your world is against you but i must admit this could have been handled in a MUCH better way… sigh. It saddens me to know his true leadership never had the chance to show him his real value in this world. Im very sadden he has aloud himself to be bullied by these people and reacted in the desperate way he has. Everyone thinks bullying stops when you leave school but wake up people!!! Its in everyday life and unfourtanatly its the soft hearted, honest, moral driven people who suffer. This all just leaves me so heartbroken </3
i like this guy….. welp, since folks didnt wanna pay attention…. well here ya go.
this is what happens when JUSTICE and the system is BROKEN. sleep well, officers.
THE CHICKENS HAVE COME HOME 2 ROOST. u can NOT recieve JUSTICE 4rm a system that is BROKEN. sorry…… no LEGAL way is even POSSIBLE. because the people r n charge of the system r CORRUPT. SOOOOOOO, last resort.
what would YOU do?
He wont make it to court they’ll kill him just to silence him this the only way to get his message across. Think about everytime has stood up against the establishment. MLK, JFK, Malcolm X, Tupac they all ended up dead
LAPD smuggled drugs into the country from mexico during the 70s and more than likely still do it now. Fuck em.
Your right…. Fuck all the LAPD’s.
I can’t wait till he kills this fucks.
Your right…. Fuck all the LAPD’s.
Please read the entire manifesto before commenting. First of all, Mr. Dorner is not crazy or insane as many lazy readers would like to allege. If Dorner has murdered anybody ( I’d be willing to bet my life they’re immediately related to the LAPD). Mr. Dorner wouldn’t just randomly kill anybody, he’s a very disciplined, dedicated person w/ a moral conscience. He’s past his breaking point and for good reason as he saw corruption all around and couldn’t make a difference while having his good name defamed. What I find the most egregious of all is the media & law enforcement not dealing w/ the truth here. They want to broad brush him as a lunatic and rush to shoot and kill him before more of the truth comes out. Why doesn’t the LAPD haul in every person that Dorner mentioned and put them in a conference room interrogating them live on television making them come clean. It would save many peoples lives and Dornier no doubt would turn himself in. But, the almighty and righteous LAPD can’t handle the truth and is scared to death of it and most internal affairs departments around the country are a complete joke w/ no intention of getting at the facts or the truth. If we had true leadership in this Country it is time for real men to stand up, create a non partisan real Internal Affairs team that are unbiased to pull back the curtain completely on the ole Blue Line within the LAPD. This is another classic moment of Paul Harvey stepping forward as a ethical man and giving Randy Weaver a ray of hope that real justice can be revealed. Every outstanding Defense Attorney in the Country should be offering their services to Dorner simply for the crystal clear reason of saving lives. But, the LAPD is more concerned w/ killing Dorner than in any sort of mediation which might bring out the facts. My faith in the National Media is gone and in almost every important and real situation the true journalists have vanished. Either they don’t know the truth or aren’t allowed to report it. Where is the FBI ? No where as usual and if law enforcement cared about stopping the killing they’d hold a press conference immediately announcing the immediate hearing live on TV so Dorner could see the real and legitimate way in which it was happening. Maybe some of these so called officers that had a conscience would grow a spine and come clean w/ the truth and defuse a terrible situation. This current situation can and should be resolved peacefully and out in the open for the entire Nation to see.
Oh n i forgot Abraham Lincoln and many more who took a stand and said enough is enough. God bless u Chris Dorner and good luck.
You may never read this, but I promise that when I finish my writing degree I will write a book featuring an honest account of your life (and death). Very rarely am I moved so greatly by words, and indeed through your writing I’ve felt your pain, know your moral compass, and I can even discern your sense of humor towards the end. Just from reading this short piece (1100 words is short when we’re talking a person’s entire life outlook and last will) I know you’re sane. I know you’ve tried every avenue to get justice, and I know you are not a sadistic killer, and are doing only what’s necessary.
People may vilify this man, but he is a hero. He isn’t an anarchist, he clearly supports the government and only wants to get rid of local corruption. What is a hero but he who sacrifices himself for the greater good of mankind? He may be working through evil means to accomplish his goals, but perhaps he has to do these things in order to really change the system. Killing innocent people is wrong, but what if killing these people was the only way the affect the system? His various attempts and appeals were obviously fruitless, so perhaps this is the only course of actions he can take.
No national news station can ever endorse Dorner as it would be professional suicide, so the internet is our only safe haven. I believe the internet is a much better meter for the public’s true perception of this man; everyone who is posting here right now has no profession career at stake and risk of judgment (we’re optionally anonymous) so we’re all speaking from our hearts.
I endorse you, and I respect you, Dorner. I hope you achieve the change you’re working towards, by whatever means necessary.
A brief aside: I am a 20 year old, white Ivy League student studying writing. I say this not as some sort of self-endorsement, but to emphasize that those who support Dorner come from every walk of life. People who support this man aren’t equally as crazy, unintelligent, or otherwise lesser moral beings. I have investigated this situation thoroughly, and I have used my own beliefs coupled with my educational tools to come to the conclusion that this man is not as portrayed through the mainstream media. I urge everybody not to even be swayed by what I have written, but to use your own intuition to come to your own conclusion.
Ooh my God, This man have said things, a lot of us wanted to say. I don’t approve of him taking justice in his own hands, because as we know, Karma is a bitch and it will come back to bit you, in the ass. But I too, know what it’s like to speak out about something and then be penalize for telling the truth, that happen to me a few times, that why I don’t like working for t he white man or woman in his own business, but I like having my own business and taking their money for a service I provided. Basically Chris, I found out about 8 years ago, when the white man is in charge, whether you speak up or not, you are not going to win, that why I don’t work for the white man now and learn that lesson more than 8 years ago, if you are a smart african american man or woman on the job with bright ideals or a fast learner, when people see that in you, they will try and suppress you or make you so miserable, that you want leave or quit. I’m not sure if you believe in God, Chris which could be part of the problem, but if you allow God to take charge and not take matters in your own hands, Justice will prevail, you just have to be patience. My friends are saying this whole situation is like a movie, which will end up on the Lifetime channel, and what’s with this death wish, how will that help if your dead, at least if your in prison, you story can be heard and share across the world. Basically you are showing people to get revenge and then expect to die, either by someone else hands or your own. I read your story, you have an excellent memory and appear to be an intelligent person, you just been through some rough times and yes when you try and try to do good and no one respects or appreciate that, you start feeling depress and like no one cares or care to understand where you are coming from. I’VE been where you been and don’t have as much accomplish in life as you do. I sit in the my apartment, hate to go outside, I suffer from depression, anxiety, insommia and my Psych, saids I have a mood in balance, she saids I’m angry and very irritable.I never saw myself as a angry person, not really unless someone push me there, but I do get very irritable, rather quickly and I’m only 45 years old. I’ve been abused by mother, disappointed by my father and mistreated by most men, who have cross my life. I hate cheater and liars, but to be honest have done both in my life, so I’m definitely not perfect and most of the time, I lied just basically to get some attention or because I knew telling the truth, I still would be in trouble, so at that point, it didn’t matter whether I lie or not. I also learned just like some of your colleagues, that telling lies and being dishonest and telling the truth, has it rewards, promotions etc.
What I learned is you can never get too comfortable with any job or with any person, in any job or situation you always have to watch your back, trust no one and observe and learn your surrounding and the people you work with. or in your environment. Trust no-one, everyone is a thief and a liar and don’t want to see you succeed. You either going to deal with the bad people in the bad atmosphere or you are going to get your mouth, don’t say a word and pretend you didn’t see or hear anything.( meaning you know nothing, even if you do)
I also learned people don’t like hearing or knowing the truth about a particular person or a particular situation, so in reality, unless it’s a matter of life or death, just for speaking out, you will lose friends and be out of a job or money, and then you become the enemy. Life’s a bitch for real. But I take what I see and know about a dishonest person or situation, I take it to God and asked him to take vengence upon that person who hurt me or a dishonest situation and I promise you, it might not happen that day or the next day, but life always get’s that person back, I have seen it happen too many times, honestly over the years. I don’t want to see you die, you did take matters in your own hands, probably without going to God first, but you made your point, you named, names and you got the media and the police involved and they now know, what you are capable of, you accomplish a lot and people are scared, especially the police, what more can you ask for, you got my attention and a lot of people. Please give this matter over to God, ask him for forgiveness and I hope and pray you believe in the Son of God because what’s important is saving your soul in heaven, not on earth. God has power over man, with God, Man has no power at all. The damage has been done Chris, but is death really worth what you call in your mind justice, hell no! Whether you know it or not, you are not only hurting the people that cause you grief, but the true unforgettable grief will really dwell upon your family and friends, for many, many years and may bring sooner death by God upon your family. Is this is what you wish to bestow upon your love ones Chris. You were not named Chris for nothing, Christ is short for Christ, which means you were made in the image of God, and God purpose is not to hurt his people, his purpose is to help us learn and love one another and that’s what I want for you Chris. Please don’t bring death upon yourself and grief upon your love ones, turn yourself in and deal with the consquences like you been dealing with all these years, most important you will be alive to tell your story and to equipment people with what goes on in these police departments.
Justice shall prevail by God and Only God
Sincerely,
Melody Allen( A complete stranger to you but maybe your earthly angel)
Mr Dorner, sorry for all you’ve been living, i believe everything, i m just praying for you and ask the Lord to bless you, forgive you for what you did last Sunday night and also at Riverside, but at this point i really have my doubts if you really did it or they made it up. i don’t condemn you, i want to remind you that God loves you and He knows your heart and He is the only One who can judge you with the real justice, and He won’t say you are guilty if you are not, even if you are He’s love is so so so big that can have mercy of you and forgive u.Just call His Holy name, accept Jesus in your heart as your savior, confess Him as your Lord in your life, and repent for your sings and the rest, He will protect & fight for you. God bless you.
Sounds like we have a ” Rambo”
Only when the soul is hurt and weak can faith be lost and a door opened for the devil. Someone had to have known how hurt this man was. He needed help. Now it’s too late
I wish that Christopher Doner and everyone alse who has a dilemma would have read REGULATE! The Manual. Maybe then, just maybe we would not be witnessing the violence that occurs all across our nation. Step in and read it for yourself at http://www.regulatethemanual.com. you are in here! REGULATE!
Many write brilliant messages here, like Marcus, Melody, g, etc. But inhale the air & see that the saga stinks!Poor Dorbaby doesn’t have a chance.The LAPD hounds shoot first-without warning-like at the blue trucks with 2 women & another with 1 man. The LAPD Chief Beck hound got too much to lose, like a Bahamas retirement on a 3 mil pension.Also,
the Fatbluedog has to protect his little blue dogs & cover-ups.If Dorner comes out, he’ll be killed instantly.Media will say he killed himself.The young couple &
others most likely were shot by one of their own hounds, like the 2 women & man which was too hard to coverup cuz they survived.The truth would ruin them.This can never happen, no matter what. Maggots like Dorner are snuffed out like cucarachas in drug mecca Mexico.Run, Dorner run or the hounds will eat u alive!P.S. In The Fugitive movie, truth barely came out.The only truther that could save his skin in this country is PrezObama himself but he doesn’t have the guts. He sacrificed the Benghazi politico gang so whoz this cockroach Dorner?
LAPD…….mess with the bull, get the horns.
this would make a rad movie
he’s got lapd on watch here in walnut because of beck. good going, beck. don’t shit where you eat because i eat here, too! why couldn’t i live next to fd?!
Main Entry: dor·ner
Pronunciation: ˈdȯr-nər
Function: noun
Etymology: Late American from Christopher Dorner
Date: 2013
: falsley accused person recieving a bad reputation ; also : a person who’s name has been unjustly tarnished.
— dor·nered -nərd noun
RIP
I symphatized with him, not the killings, but with him. Until I got to the paragraph about gun control and his support of Feinstein and Hillary. Then I lost all respect. Now, in my eyes, both him and the police are psychopathic thugs (two innocent women shot by bloodthirsty cops, and him killing two innocent people). May they all come to justice.
how do you know he killed the couple in Irvine?
Is it guilty until proven innocent?
everyone get out your pitchforks and torches!!!
This was an interesting read, until I got to this, “Whether by executive order or thru a bi-partisan congress an assault weapons ban needs to be re-instituted.”
Fuck you, Christopher Jordan Dorner.
Anyone advocating the complete disarmament of the people of the entire country, so that they can no longer protect themselves against the government, including police, is a far greater enemy of mine than any number of abusive police officers.
Those that have disarmed the people have been the greatest tyrants and killers in history.
Keep on killing them fuckers bro…. Make sure your point comes across these crooked bitches!!!!
Right on, Mr. X!
shouldn’t matter his opinion on politics, albiet, his fault for adding that unnecessary commentary.
let’s not lose focus on issue at hand:
he hasn’t had a fair trial. he is IMPLICATED in the double homicide. look up definition of “implicated”. then look up “DUE PROCESS”.
seriosly, grab your pitchforks and form a queue.
if James E. Holmes (Aurora, Colorado mass shooting) gets DUE PROCESS, and Jeffery Dahmer gets DUE PROCESS why doesn’t Christopher Dorner get DUE PROCESS?
Why doesn’t he get a FAIR TRIAL like all the other murderers?
THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE!
Liking how ppl say what type of person he is via the news/articles. Even a homophobes? I can simply look @ his smile, in every pic, and close up-his eyes. Curious I asked my girlfriend-showed her ‘picture’ and asked, what do you think of this person? (she knew nothing of who he was)
“Kind, ah good with kids, big guy-the kinda guy you want on your side….your neighbor! He can babysit and we would have no problems with idiot crime…. this was her response.
Ironic that Dorner is fighting cops with an AR-15, yet advocating that AR-15s be taken away from the people. Guess what that would result in? Only cops having AR-15s.
The more I look into this the more it stinks.
Our champion of justice is left with only drastic measures… If the justice system was working it would not have to come down to this. I don’t agree with everything, but I can see where he is coming from. He tried real hard and achieved so much despite the hardship, and got a raw deal in the end.
I’m inclined to agree that this man was driven over the edge by a corrupt system and that the system is to blame rather than the man. It worries me a bit though that he felt he had to kill all the folk involved and I especially worry a bit about his choice to include family members of his main targets as targets themselves.
On thinking however, the man has resorted to what he knows and how he was trained; therefore doesn’t it follow that perhaps tactical training for combat situations like Iraq etc..particualrly in that he seems to have been trained for more specialist duties, maybe includes the targeting of family members?
He claims throughout his manifesto that he will use their own methods against them (meaning methods learned throughout his various exploits in the military and police) so to me it does seem to follow that he was in fact trained to assisinate family members of enemey targets and this is probably more disturbing.
As for the officers who shot up cars that had some sort of vague similarity to Dorner’s car, they too should be hounded by thousands of officers and treated just like Dorner. I can see no difference in what these police officers did in comparison to what dorner has done so far, there can be no excuse for blindly firing multiple shots into two old women delivering newspapers just because their car might be almost the same shape as Dorner’s.
The comments like “I’m with you all the way” are bizzare and reek at angry loners with a grudge against the world, similarly those who shout about “killing the maniac” are the types who are unable to think beyond what they are told to. Probably have a flag dangling from the house which they salute everynight just to annoy some foreign neighbours.
The entire affair is a difficult one to grasp and to make clear decisions on. We need far more information and it is the duty of anyone calling themself an investigative journalist to indeed follow the leads this man provided and attempt to get at the entire truth of the matter.
Dorner has to be caught and a major trial planned over the entire affair. Not being from USA I am not familiar with FBI etc, but it is very clear that the very establishment that Dorner claimed to be responsible for everything should not by default be the ones to pursue him.
yay!! he has an excuse for his actions… REALLY.. Take responibility for your actions!!
I think what everyone may or may not be ignoring is that if Christopher Jordan Dorner is found by the mob of cops that are hunting him, he will not live past the first engagement. They are not hunting him to bring him to trial. An Afrikan – w/ guns? Get real.
This is racist AmeriKKKa at its best. Enslavers chasing the Afrikan who escaped. They’ve gotten their monies worth out of him. But he’s the “ungrateful n*****r” who hasn’t learned who his “master” is supposed to be. He was supposed to be a good slave. Instead he has had the audacity not only to think – but to actually believe and act upon the belief that he can criticize a white, elite, paramilitary power structure that is an arm of the state.
This is a “crime” in the eyes of that power structure which is similar to the so-called “criminal” actions of enslaved AFRIKANS who dared to learn to read during the years of the 1st U.S. chattel enslavement time period. As the late Dr. John Henrik Clarke and Michelle Alexander (The New Jim Crow) point out the current U.S. government is attempting to re-enslave us, has been doing so for some time, and has grown a for profit prison industrial complex to do so within the past two centuries.
The colonization of knowledge has always been a corporate imperative. “Stealing” that knowledge (i.e. empowering one’s self through reading, writing, etc.) and/or escaping enslavement have always been crimes punishable by death.
Thus – those who do not know how this country truly operates are under the impression that those who are hunting Christopher Jordan Dorner are hunting him to bring him to trial. This is a mistaken conclusion.
ALL of the police agencies (from the FBI to skip tracers [read: bounty hunters] to vigilantes, to the lowliest beat cop) that have mobilized/and are continuing to mobilize to hunt Christopher Jordan Dorner are paid killers. And they have a license to kill order to execute him on sight.
He knows this – and so do they.
Hell, maybe they will even hire George Zimmerman as a “consultant” in the same vein as the stupid Oakland City Council hired Dorner’s boss William Bratton as a “consultant” to teach the OPD how to become more brutal than they already are.
This would be right up Zimmerman’s alley – stalking/hunting an AFRIKAN. Only difference would be that hunting Christopher Jordan Dorner is a way different situation than shooting and killing an unarmed Trayvon Martin. Sort of like the hunter who chased the lioness until she caught him. … Dorner would serve Zimmerman to his police friends for lunch with a nice sauce and a salad on the side.
THIS IS A GREAT MAN!!! COPS FUCKED WITH HIS JOB!!
I totally understand where Chris is coming from. Our children grow up learning to trust public figures such as police, government officials, sports figures etc. what do we have…we have cops on the take, government offials that cannot tell the truth if their life depended on it, sports figures that we have respected for year, only to find out their skills were not all their own, but with the help of doping. Where does it stop? I am sure that when Chris went to his superiors to inform them of what was going on, he trusted they would do the RIGHT thing. Sorry, I am on his side! They are saying he shot three people, how do we know that? Was it the LAPD setting him up? You saw how trigger happy they were with the women delivering newspapers. I think it is sad, all he is asking is that the truth be known and his name be cleared. How hard could that be? Would this have gone this far if they would have listened and did the right thing. The saddest part of all is that we will never see Chris alive. If the LAPD gets to him first, you can bet they will be sure he is dead and silenced. As he said he is not afraid of dying, add that to his morals he will not be able to live with himself. Why didn’t he just shoot the guy he was trying to get the boat from? Too much here does not make sense! To be honest, we need more people like Chris in this world and less like the LAPD. Will they be forced to do an investigation now, I sure hope so.
After reading through all of the comments after my last posting Friday night, I can clearly see that there will be very tough times ahead for our country. This just may be the catalyst that will bond the American people into petitioning our great Democracy to end the corruption within our own borders. There is no real Justice system. There is no resolve as our society and system use the Constitution against it’s own people. It is obvious the media is owned by the rich and the leaders of our country have all been compromised with the simple word that escapes us all!
That one word is GREED!
To be free in this country, one has to have money. Those that have money can and will do whatever it takes to protect their own interests. Those without the finances to stand on their own, are 95% of the population. Then there are the 4% left that cannot take care of themselves and have to be cared for. That leaves the 1% to rule those without and will run this country into the ground. Where it now stands in this conflict with Dorner pushing the button, we all lose.
Be prepared, people! A mighty storm is coming. And the storm is called Marshal Law, empowered by those in control, who are afraid of the 99% of standing their ground and fighting back. No wonder they want gun control and the ability for us to fight back. Or to stop them before it gets to that point. Dorner will never be captured alive. When JFK was assassinated, that was America’s last President to stand up to the military complex. I dare Obama to end this mess right now! How can he sit and watch this unfold?… all too well knowing, that if he takes that stand as those in history did, will spark the American people into a real revolution.
Did you know that there’s over 30,000,000 registered and permitted hunters in America? Do you believe they will give up their guns without a fight? Will you give up your freedom when the NDAA law scoops you and me and everyone else up, which that law says is against those with freedom of speech? Or will you be cast away into a FEMA camp already constructed to be eliminated anyway when you can’t fight back and resist this ‘Gestapo’ regime? The extermination process has begun. This is exactly what Hitler did that started WWII.
So go ahead and lay down your arms and be led to slaughter. We the sheeple!
He’s toast. No way will they let him live.
Clearly he should have jumped off the “dirt bag police train” a long time ago, because that entire system in many cities is corrupt. They lack training to effectively deal with various demographics. Now the once Police ofc. & US military veteran (Thank you for serving), should have just gone to another profession, and let this crap go. Becoming like your aggressors is not the answer. There is always more truth to these situations than we common folk know about, or care about, especially if it doesn’t directly effect or affect us. So those throwing stones don’t know the whole story and we never will, because instances (big & small) like these are covered up. If there are no recording devices around (audio & visual), then let the cover up begin.
This man isn’t crazy. I think the FBI ought to take this over.
I think few have been where he is. Each of us has a moral code we live by. Judging shows a lack of empathy of the world around you; if you can’t understand it, you’re not awake. He is highly intelligent, has served his country better than most, and was a good cop. Like an animal you train and then mistreat, they will remember that. He does. It’s not rambling; he’s letting go of all he knows and loves. Because where he’s going, they don’t belong. I wish him nothing but the peace he seeks.
Chris is as mad as HELL and he’s not going to take it anymore!! He doesn’t give a damn what others think. So, he’s digging in his heels and letting LAPD feel his pain. He has shot his way into history. This would have turned out differently had he been a Christian. The morals we have replaced Christ with have left us a deeply devided nation: the world is watching us and listening to us, we have so much prosperity what we need is more wisdom. If we would only listen and not react violently, we would have happiness. everybody is seeking the same thing we just disagree on the technique/path.It’s to late to change the course Chris has set I wonder how he felt and if he did try to express his feelings would anybody really listen. God bless you all.
You made a lot of good points.
To bad you did not advertize this letter to all news media and all other sourses that could have made a case for you befor you started killing?
Well, there is some inconsistence in what he is writing, regarding the complete autenticity of this document. He complains about AR15, but he owns a Barret 50 which looks like it could kill a tank. Also, he suddenly offers his 100% support for the Guvernment, but he points out that USA lost almost all wars since WWII because it invaded some countries of which people were willing to die for.
And again, I don’t find him crazy even if some of his reactions appear to be disproportionated. Like 22 days suspension for saying nigger appears to be enough from my point of view.
I must say I like the part with the butch lesbians officers whitch live to prove their “misandrist authority (not feminism) to degrade male officers”. I never heard that before and I’m pretty sure it happens, but in a feminist political correct society rarelly you find that spoken out. Of course, I don’t approve the killing of them. That’s also exagerated. A spank over their fat butt chicks would be enogh in my opinion.
THIS COMMENT IS FOR EVERY BLACK/AFRICAN-AMERICAN READER:
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GOD. BELIEVE ME, IF THERE WERE I WOULD KNOW, I AM A LAW ABIDING WHITE MAN WHO SURELY WOULD GET INTO HEAVEN.
First of all Christianity was introduced to black slaves in early America by forcing them to take Christian name and learn how to read the Bible to make them more docile. If a nigger thinks that there is a “magical force in the sky” that will strike him down whenever he attempted to run-away or fight he would be less likely to do so. Also he would be less likely to intervene if he is family was being abused or he had to work in unfair conditions. A great person once said, “The best slave in the world is the slave who doesn’t KNOW that he is a slave.” This is probably why Dorner is so smart he an Atheist and understands the historical implications of Christianity not only to niggers but all minorities. Let me ask you this before I move on, what race benefits most by niggers like “Terrence”, the commenter above me, believing in Christ? I’ll give you a hint, it rhymes with “bright feeple”.
Secondly, the black/Ebonic dialect is one of the other shackles on the African-American community. It prevents you from getting jobs, cause discrimination against you, worse prison sentences. Answer me this: Why does every other immigrant population shed their native accent but yet Blacks “still be talkin’ like they be scaze o
dey Masssuhh gonna giveup a gooz whuppin when Massuh giz homez?” Other races drop the accent and I dunno, become computer engineers and doctors.
Anyway, my point is the two shackles on the black community in America is 1) Christianity and 2) A history of Slavery – get rid of em both and you will be successful and happy and never look back.
Go Chris, Go!
Check out this excellent African-American woman writer’s site:
survivingdating.com – this site addresses a lot of problems with the black community and also gives excellent dating advice. I am a straight white dude but learned a lot of stuff from her.
more of my words”””Did you know that blacks who worked in kitchens were told to sing and or whistle while cooking food for white people? Do you know why? No there was no America Idol Tryouts back in the day. It was Because their masters would know that they weren’t stealing their food by eating it. Forced to sing and whistle.
The only reason African-Amer follow Jesus is because of their enslavement by white people. Africans did not have a white God back in Zaire. Blacks did not come to the US by plane and go “gee lets go to church” I am sure you know that your history represents one of being forced into labor in the US. I don’t want to go on and on because you are probably insulted as it is. Hopefully, it will cause you to question some injustices that have occurred not only to you but to many peoples in the US.
Respectfully
Mr. Dorner, I read your letter and I get you. I applaud you for writing about the LAP.. There needs to be a wake up call in our country. There is corruption everywhere, but unfortunately, the times will only get worse. I am sad that you felt betrayed, helpless, hopeless and depressed. I am praying for you. Your letter said so much, I wish you would stop there. You’ve been burned, but I don’t really think that it is in your DNA to retaliate on individuals. Yea, it will get attention, but don’t you think its bigger than that? The times are bad, but it is written to be so until our Lord Jesus returns. Stop and ask the Lord to address those who harmed you and ask the Lord’s forgiveness. Our life here is temporary, The Lord is the only Truth!
May the Lord guide and comfort you.
this is America!
DUE PROCESS FOR DORNER!
freedom & JUSTICE for ALL!
wasn’t the civilian female he shot and killed the daughter of the attorney that had represented him in his case agains’t the LAPD?
Just like Rambo…only…Different..Poke a stick at a Hornet’s nest long enough and you are going to get stung.. Anyone can be pushed to the Breaking Point…. Just wish it hadn’t come down to this.
I have read quite a few people who have said that the suspect is crazy, as a forensic psychologist I can say he is not! He is fully aware of the wrongfulness and criminality of his actions. He is rational and coherent and shows no signs of paranoia or delusions. His manifesto is well written and while I do not condone his actions I can however understand his motives. Sometimes people are pushed so far they feel they have nothing left and they strike back violently. I hope that from this tragedy a full scale external investigation is done on the allegations of corruption within the LAPD.
When I begun reading his letter I was impressed with his ability to voice and articulate his beliefs and experiences with the LAPD. In someways I could relate to what he experienced and the disrespect of who he was and how he was treated. I’m a “female” disabled VET who experienced mental and physical abuse that has left me with nightmares and anger I will never overcome. Not all my “male” fellow Soldiers participated in this abuse but stood-up for who I am and my abilities to preform as a Soldier. Not once have I ever or will I ever bring harm to those I carry hatred for n my mind and heart. Back to Dorner. The “being impressed” stopped when I came to the part of Mrs Obama having cute bangs.. I thought to myself, what just happened. As I read further I come to realized he suffers (most likely) from bipolar disorder. Knowing from experience this started to kick in when his fellow police officers “did not” have his back. To do your best and stand-up for whats right and follow your morals only to be slapped down for it, can be devastating to your mind and then to physical issues. The pain he felt, no one will know or understand until they experience a situation somewhat like his.. When Dorner begin to recognize and give props to those in the public eye it become recognizable he was putting himself upon a pedestal. I’m thinking maybe it’s due to the exposure he is receiving by the media and TV. He believe’s his opinions “matter” to those in the public eye. Him not realizing it doing just the opposite. To mention how good the “sex” was with his ex girlfriends and mentioning the gay community often he might be living with a dark secret he in no way could bring out of the closet due to causing him more harm then good. This anger that has built up in his mind over the past 4 years has brought out his anger and actions of getting revenge. We know he has a mental defect (reflecting n his actions) for him to have carried out “in extreme” the actions he has of killing. Due to this, it shows he lost control of his anger and sadness he is experiencing. I know and feel his pain but, for him to act out as he has/is makes him so much and more ignorant then those he hates. In the end he will go up against a board of superiors that will crush him like the cockroach he is. I may have laughed out loud at what he wished upon those who he felt done him wrong because, at times I have thought the same, well not to the extreme of pain to the innocent. In retrospect most of us have. Hopefully very soon he will have a bullet put between his eyes as another enters from the rear. On his tombstone it should read, here lies one “ignorant nigger”. If I was a black person I would spit on his grave. Truth being, he represent himself and only himself. How ironic it would be for a black sniper to take his life. Kudos to the killer who takes Dorner’s last breath. Hopefully before he takes anothers.
While I do not agree with the killing of innocence, I also feel no sorrow for the individuals killed, (collateral damage) ,due to their relationships with those affiliated with the lapd. This has been happening to (us) for a long long time, and now theres some payback going on and the whites dont like it, tough sh*t I say. I hope this man can get to the top brass and put a bullet in the temple of every one of them, and if family members are in his way so be it. Please make your way to the nypd and rid us of the racist devils there too. I applaud his efforts, he NEVER would have gotten a fair shake in the court system, he would have mysteriously hung himself in his cell Im sure. Payback is a b*tch, aint it amerikkka.
Chris, kill as many of them as you can.
I am absolutely speechless. At first I did not want to have any part of commenting on or reposting any of this sickness but I, like millions of other American’s have this morbid curiosity about the mind set of a person like this. I just had to know what is making him tick. Now, the word narcissist is painted all over this, among other sever mental illnesses. I completely support exposure of dirty cops in any police force, but seriously, THIS is not the way to achieve justice. I would rather have the retribution of an earthly system be my judge, rather than God. I grew up within a few miles of where this horror is taking place and I cannot imagine the terror that this sick man has inflicted on my family, friends, MY HOMETOWN!!! The sad thing is, that is exactly what he intended. A girl I babysat 30 years ago is in direct danger because of him. I wonder if he has thought at all about the fact that he called out killers from Columbine, SandyHook, Kent State, among others, that he is no better than those killers??? You, Dorner…are no better than they were. I don’t know, I’ll stop now, I cannot put my thoughts together enough to make any sense of this crap!
This is the ” signs of the times”..corruption, secret combinations, cover ups and on and on ..it goes on in our Government, our churches, our schools, our families, etc etc …children killing children, parents killing children, children killing parents, judges lying, cops lying, priest lying, ministers lying, people stealing one from another,government taking away our rights, babies murdered and unborn children being sucked from Mother’s wombs, children committing suicide, drug abuse and so on and so on ..HELLO!!!!!!!!!!… it is not going to stop ..these are the last days!!. WE have forgotten what we are supposed to be doing in this life!… and this guy has no way to stop himself from what he feels he needs to do…This whole thing is very sad indeed and yet this is what this country and world has become….We have forgotten all that we have been taught by the Savior ..TOO bad for us huh ? May God have mercy on this man ..he is messed up, and probably rightfully so.. .
@JeriBrown How can you be so confident as to say he has bipolar disorder? I guess a guy writing out his intentions in multiple pages worth of material isn’t allowed to toss in some humor or random thoughts of things he can no longer enjoy when it’s all over. It’s kind of like the moment when people are about to die and how it has been said that they get flashbacks of good memories. With that said, I find it ridiculous that you would draw the line on such instead of trying to understand him.
The murders of his first 2 victims is inexcusable. Absolutely inexcusable. He killed two people who had nothing to do with anything. And he ambushed two ‘innocent’ female officers who had nothing to do with what happened to him. Regardless of the circumstances of his dismissal from the LAPD, These women should not have been attacked. They were not involved nor do they bear any responsibility for what happened to him.
But just to show there is validity to what he says, look at the pictures of the truck in which the two innocent women were fired upon by the LAPD. This is the BACK of the truck. No visual confirmation that they have the right person, they just opened fire.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/08/16900348-women-shot-during-lapd-ex-cop-manhunt-had-no-warning-lawyer-says
LA has always had one of the dirtiest police forces in the nation. It gives the New Orleans PD a run for it’s reputation.
While growing up here in Lower Hooterville, my Mom had a friend who was a homicide cop until he couldn’t handle it any longer. He always said that at least half the cops on the force would be behind bars if they hadn’t got hired on. And that is the damn truth.
The problem is that when you punish the innocent with the guilty, you lose any credibility or moral high ground you may have had. You become what you’re railiing against.
This is on the LAPD as much as Christopher Dorner. At least that’s what I believe.
I find it frightening that Dorner is basically tried and convicted already for the Quan shooting and the cops at the stop sign when there is not ONE SHRED of evidence showing he did it as of yet. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? Their ëvidence” is Dorner’s words in his manifesto? Correlation does not constitute causation. As far as we know, ALL Dorner has done that is a FACT so far is post his manifesto and probably set his own car on fire. The LAPD on the other hand has SHOT TWO INNOCENT PEOPLE with over 100 rounds and a few blocks away shot ANOTHER innocent person! Thank god they are all incredibly lousy shots or there would be 3 DEAD people shot by the LAPD not Dorner! Everyone of the LAPD that were involved in these incidents should be off the streets. Beck trying to explain it away by saying the cops are ön edge”is NO EXCUSE. You are the POLICE for heavens sake! You are the ones that are supposed to be trained NOT to be so ön edge”that you attempt to murder innocent bystanders! Get a grip and turn in your badges, you are unfit for service.
I agree with you. I support you and understand where you are coming from. We live in a country where we are supposed to have rights but in reality are taken by a fucked up governmental system.
In the other hand, I don’t support that. You are taking other people’s life. You don’t clear your name that way. You retaliate against this!
I believe this man 100% This is a perfect example of what the police does every day on out streets. I can say that I agree with the killings but I strongly believe this officer tried to do the right thing.
RUN BROTHER! RUN!
I’m sure you meant to say that you CAN’T agree with the killings, right?
Yes, I meant to say can’t.
Thanks for pointing that out.
Cheers!
I kind of guilty correcting you but thought it was important that people see what you really meant. I’m the queen of typos and understand how this can happen.
People saying Hes ill and that Hes not right in the head, Hes Aware of what Hes doing, This man is smart as hell, probally alot smarter Then anyone thought. A man giving away his life to his job, being treated like that by THE very thing he gave so much of Him Self to in his life.. I Can see why this is his last resort.. All this Wouldent have happend if BOR tried to listen to Him and Hes honest story.. He is afterall a smart guy, not some idiot trying to blame someone for nothing, He tried to Reason with Them, but they Wouldent listen..and for Him being truth to The job he gave everything and Then get this respond… I really feel and understand Dorner..
I hope they never catch Him, that he Whoops THE lying dishonest men Who treated Him like this, Then takes off somewhere unknown and live a good life(if not that last part atleast i hope he forefill this Master plan)
Screw The LAPD
LAPD is corrupt and should be eliminated. (like most cops)
I think we should be doing the same thing this guy is doing, but we need to be doing it against the banks and the government. Quit being sheep people, start showing some cajones.
LOL He didn’t write that. Some Liberal did and is appearing as him to push his agenda. If you actually read through the whole thing, its perfectly clear.
why did droner killed the cops.. fully explained – read http://www.drturi.com/warning-to-the-fbi-dr-turi-and-christopher-dorner/
You know, David did SLAY Goliath…with a slingshot and a few rocks. So, there’s no telling what one man with a focused vision can do. I think this is an opportunity for people to stand up. Maybe Chris Dorner is another DAVID going up against a BIG, OMINUS MACHINE called the LAPD. If the citizens of Los Angeles, together, start blasting the Mayor, the Governor, and the News Media for the TRUTH, just maybe, we’ll get it. I don’t think the NEWS MEDIA can report the truth, because they work for the same MACHINE that the LAPD works for. The corruption that Dorner is fighting against is much deeper than the LAPD. But most of us don’t give a sh*t, so long as we got our flat screen TV and enough maryjane to keep us mildly sedate.
The American Dream, which Dorner tried to buy into, and got smacked, has disappointed most of us for generations. Don’t you see people, the MACHINE just wants us to pay taxes, so they can run their well oiled MACHINE. They don’t care if we’re educated. It actually serves them for us to remain stupid! they just want our money so they can do whatever they want.
It was discovered that LA Unified School District and Santa Ana School District was taking the money from the lunch program that feeds the under priviledged kids and using it to feed the OVERLY WELL PAID board members, etc, at their fancy luncheons. It’s the same kind of corruption and they don’t bat an eye.
sure, we can sit back and ignore this, just watch it on TV or watch reruns of MASH, but honestly, ARE WE GOING TO LET CHRIS DORNER STAND UP TO THE MACHINE ALONE AND DIE FOR US ALL… WASN’T IT ENOUGH THAT JESUS THE CHRIST HAD TO FIGHT THE SAME UGLY MACHINE 200O YEARS AGO AND DIE AN UGLY DEATH.
Yeah, I compared Chris Dorner to Christ… but I don’t apologize, because we are all brothers under the ONE. How many good men are going to fight the good fight, while the rest of us pick the lint out of our belly buttons… ?!
And for those of you who are saying that Dorner has some kind of mental condition, just realize if psychiatrists today, got a hold of Jesus the Christ, He’d be on ANTI-PSYCHOTIC MEDICATION FOR ALL HIS VISIONS AND DELUSIONS (never mind the miracles, we’d just say that was props and whatnot)… so becareful how you label people. You don’t know what they’ve seen or where they’ve been.
Come on PEOPLE! GET UP, shake the lead out and say something worth reading. Lets do this and get our country back, no man can do it all alone. But Dorner is going to die trying…. ARE YOU?
Peace and blessings on your walk
Warning to The FBI – Dr. Turi and Christopher Dorner http://www.drturi.com/warning-to-the-fbi-dr-turi-and-christopher-dorner/ pass it on pls…
“Plus he is a paranoid, sexist, homophobe.”
Uhhh…. you CLEARLY didn’t read this, then. He lauds Ellen De Generes and says wonderful things about women, both individually and collectively, including supporting women entering combat positions in the military. He also spoke out about all gay military personnel deserving of all the same rights and benefits (and their partners the same) as all other military personnel. He makes other supportive comments as well. I think you just skimmed it.
The section about gun control was not written by him — the style changes, certain mistakes disappear, the patterns are different, and it just doesn’t fit with the rest of the piece… and I SUPPORT gun control, so I’m not just saying this out of my own personal desires!! It DOESN’T FIT. So who knowws what else may have been changed, but clearly, it has been.
Warning to The FBI – Dr. Turi and Christopher Dorner http://www.drturi.com/warning-to-the-fbi-dr-turi-and-christopher-dorner/ pass it on pls…
For this man to kill ANY innocent that might be somehow related to persons who harmed him at the LAPD is patently vile and without conscience. He is doing exactly as his a users did to him. While he may be very intelligent and may be functioning quite well, he is after all insanely rageful and evil. I understand his fury. I deplore his tactics. I will pray for protection for all those people he stalks who have done him no harm.
To the LAPD I say this: you too are vile and despicable.
There is much more behing the story! Please read http://www.drturi.com/warning-to-the-fbi-dr-turi-and-christopher-dorner/ and pass it on for me. DT
@thixotropic
I believe that you did not read my explanation in my posting the exact same claim earlier in the comments here:
http://hiphopandpolitics.wordpress.com/2013/02/07/uncensored-manifesto-from-retired-lapd-officer-christopher-dorner/#comment-43045
As a learning writer and almost complete with my BSA degree… I can see that this manifest can be a published fake with inserted sections to enhance the gun control issues being portrayed by the media controlled by the very rich… who are in control of our leaders and the cops!
WE do not know who he has killed, we only know what the media has told us from the report of the Police department, but if they are mistaken two Asian women for Doner, they want him DEAD, and it seems if they want him dead , then they will do and say anything to have it done, as of “Dorner killed these innocent people”, and we are to take their word? Until we really know they are as guilty as he is as of now. So who is the bad guy?
I do agree that their shoot first – ask questions later operation does look rather trigger happy. My daughter wondered what else the LAPD is trying to hide.
Google Warning to The FBI – Dr. Turi and Christopher Dorner
The message I received yesterday from those two FBI Agents who visited me yesterday was very clear, STOP NOW! I failed reaching them or their supervisors, so I am only trying harder this time!
Reblogged this on Proletarian Center for Research, Education and Culture.
Please acknowledge my experience with two FBI agents yesterday. Google “Warning to The FBI – Dr. Turi and Christopher Dorner” or use this link http://www.drturi.com/warning-to-the-fbi-dr-turi-and-christopher-dorner/
Eye for an eye. Mr. Dorner is doing what the majority of Americans only fantasize about doing to jerkoff cops.
I am done writing about the reasons why Christopher Dorne killed the cops… Note 2 FBI agents visited me this morning after reading “The FBI and the Dept of Homeland Security Failure” – I did elaborate on this quite interesting meeting and those two FBI agents reactions so enjoy…
Warning to The FBI – Dr. Turi and Christopher Dorner
http://www.drturi.com/warning-to-the-fbi-dr-turi-and-christopher-dorner/
Dr. Turi
life is not easy, sometimes not fair, and it can be a challenge.
for those of us that want justice, the truth, we cope and try to do what is realistic to bring awareness to our cause and choose with our own mind set to live as best as we can, no matter what adversity or prosperity in life is. In addition, we hope that there are more people with the same mind set than opposite.
there will always be people in life that make a choice to do corrupt, don’t do the right thing, have their own agenda, and when up against these people, the higher self will become one of the same or go in a positive direction.
it takes strength that keeps you steadfast in your belief of who you are, ethics, values, morals and no matter what happens no one can move these or change you.
a name is not who you are.
I definitely understand his point of view on the case. People who try to do right get victimized everyday for trying to do right and be fair.When people don’t listen , you have to get you point across. I disagree in getting it done b saying he is right by violence but sometime that is the only voice you can get them to understand. I’m not saying he’s right but I understand his point.
Google Warning to The FBI – Dr. Turi and Christopher Dorner
The message I received yesterday from those two FBI Agents who visited me yesterday was very clear, STOP NOW! I failed reaching them or their supervisors, so I am only trying harder this time!
All of the assholes he mentioned need to be polygraphed and fire.
@Sharon…..you’re really going to call him a stupped stupped man, when you cannot even spell “stupid”, not once , but twice! You must be joking!!!! This man is far from stupid, in fact, by your comments and spelling, you probably didn’t understand half of the words he used. So……..shut your pie hole you silly cow!
Most people in America seem to have forgotten that self defense is a necessary act for human beings. The acts of Dorner may not have been justified by your standards, but they were in Self-Defense. Self-defense is not wrong, but the method may be. The fact that he has chosen a method of self-defense that is unacceptable to most americans for his particular circumstances is a moot point. America has not proven its morality, nor shown good moral judgement. The majority of the people in our nation were willing to give up their rights and the rights of everyone else in this country including their children for security, and for the sake of taking out their rage on others who were innocent. Such as the killing of over one million civilians in the Afghanistan and Iraq wars. This mass killing was not necessary from a military standpoint to take over both countries, and some very good, highly decorated generals resigned over the cruelty, inhumanity, and stupidity of the war strategies that the Bush Administration insisted on.
In fact all of the deaths involved in those wars were unnecessary as it was already well known by almost the entire world and demonstrated that neither of those nations were a threat to the U.S. or the world.
Given that most Americans sanctioned these mass killings (of mostly civilians), because they were angry about 9/11, which had absolutely nothing to do with either of those countries, they have no right to judge Dorner morally. He is far more ethical than most if what he stated about himself in his manifesto is true. People are just afraid of those who use violence to stand up for their rights when the system does not give them another option for justice. They are afraid because they do not know how to stand up for themselves, or others in that same way, so are at a disadvantage.
The LAPD needs to be cleaned out. All of them should be fired. Police should be locally democratically controlled. Cities with more than 10,000 people usually can not operate democratically well enough to where the people put a check on corruption.
I hope Chris gets as far away as possible. He has tried everything possible to expose the scum that are suppose to be protecting and trusted. My guess is that as a boy, he wanted to be a cop for the right reasons. When he became one, he saw and tried to put an end to the curruption only to be lied to and misrepresented. I really wonder if he a tally shot those people…could it have been a set up by the LAPD? As we know with the women delivering the newspapers, they are a little trigger happy. And just what he has exposed about them, would give them motive. I really and mean sadly think we will never see him alive. Either he will shoot himself or the LAPD will shoot him, if they catch him, just to be sure he is silenced. My hope is that he gets away and is able to pick up a life somewhere he is safe. He is just the kind of people we need in this world!
Please read the manifesto before posting “he should have sued the department…” At least skim it. If you are intelligent, please demonstrate it, otherwise STFU!
The LAPD Chief can stop him with one press conference, but he remains stubborn that his department has done no wrongs.
For those talking about the “innocent victims”,,, think again. She was the daughter of the retired cop that caved into the department and did not represent him in his hearing. Clearly a legitimate target per manifesto. The Fiance of her, he was a CSU campus cop, same mentality of cover up as the rest of the Southern California law enforcement agencies. Not too far from saying he has stuck to his target list perfectly so far.
So the hell what she was the DAUGHTER of someone that represented him in a hearing? She didn’t do a flipping thing to this guy. And you know what, neither did her poor fiancee. You lose serious credibility when you declare open season on innocent human beings, regardless of what you may or may not write. You then become that which you hate.
Warning to The FBI – Dr. Turi and Christopher Dorner
”For those who know me and the Cosmic Code jurisdictions, no explanation is necessary; For those who do not, none will ever suffice…
A DIRECT WARNING TO DEPT OF HOMELAND SECURITY, THE POLICE ADMINISTRATION, THE FBI, CIA AND ALL THE SECRET SERVICE AGENCIES!
CHRISTOPHER DORMER IS RESPONDING NEUROTICALLY, COSMICALLY TO THE CURRENT SCORPIUS DRAGON AIMING FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY AND ITS FULL PREDICTED RESTRUCTURE SLOWLY BECOMING A REALITY! FOR ME TO DO WHAT I DID AND PURPOSELY “INVITE” THE FBI IN MY HOUSE SPEAK OF A VERY IMPORTANT MESSAGE I HAVE FOR A COSMIC UNCONSCIOUS POLICE ADMINISTRATION AND ALL OUR BRAVE PUBLIC SERVANTS RISKING THEIR LIVES DAILY.
ALL YOU ARE EXPERIENCING TODAY WITH MR. DORMER SPEAKS OF THE DESTRUCTIVE SCORPIUS POWER REGIMENTING YOUR LIVES AND THE REASON WHY IN ORDER TO ATTRACT YOUR ATTENTION I WROTE ‘KILL ALL THE FBI AGENTS.”
I AM ASKING THE POLICE AND MY WORLD WIDE READING AUDIENCE TO TAKE ME VERY SERIOUSLY FOR I KNOW OF THE EXTRAORDINARY PLUTONIC FORCES INSIDE THIS DESPERATE MAN AND HIS DEDICATION TO KILL MANY OF YOU.
I TRIED THE IMPOSSIBLE TO REACH YOU LAST FEW DAYS PUTTING MYSELF AND MY WIFE IN A PECULIAR POSITION AND FOR ME TO DO SO SPEAK OF MY COURAGE, DEDICATION, CONVICTION AND RARE WISDOM TO HELP YOU CATCH THIS KILLER WITH MY EXPERTISE!
YOU ARE DEALING WITH COSMIC FORCES YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. I WILL OFFER YOU THE REAL REASONS WHY MR. DORMER WENT ON THIS DEADLY RAMPAGE AND THE ANSWERS ARE WELL ABOVE THE FIVE LIMITED HUMAN SENSES OF ALL THE TRADITIONALLY EDUCATED DETECTIVES ASSIGNED TO STOP HIM! CHRISTOPHER DORMER WARNED YOU , ITS NOW MY TURN TO DO THE SAME, WITH THE DIFFERENCE THAT I AM ON YOUR SIDE!
DR. TURI
Dear Readers;
The message I received yesterday from those two FBI Agents was very clear, STOP NOW! I failed reaching them or their supervisors, so I am only trying harder this time! Before getting into the full experience and exploring Christopher Dormer’ cosmic energy let me refresh your memory. When I assure you that I am CNN before CNN all you have to do is to read the updated version of ”N.E. Historic Blizzard? Is it time for science to wake up?”
Check the UFO legacy predictions on my latest show from thirdphaseofmoon
DID I MENTION COSMIC NEWS? IN THIS SHOW? YES I DID!
Asteroid to pay Earth a close visit
Incidentally the same exact Uranic cosmic energy of January 23, 2012 was used in “Discovery Channel – Dr. Turi’s Predictions” when I made this prediction weeks ahead of time and offered the facts on national TV in ”Dr. Turi on William Shatner’s TV Show“
Solar storm’s spectacular display
Before explaining my experience with the two FBI agents visit, all I can tell you is during our intense discussion I told them that; I sent certified mail to then police Chief Daryl Gate weeks ahead of the Rodney King beating warning him about a Plutonic window that would change his life and all of those of his police officers involved. This letter went probably straight to the trash and never passed his secretary and this is where I wish whom ever read my dated prediction would come forward to confirm my claim. Meantime I have more chances winning the state lottery before this happen…
I also mentioned that weeks ahead of time, I also sent certified mail to San Diego ex-police Chief Burgreen giving him the exact date of August 15, 1991 where he would catch the La Jolla Torrey Pines cop killer and when this happened I never received any form of confirmation from his office either…Note during those days I was living in San Diego and paid close attention to the news development and we did not have the Internet!
Furthermore in “George Noory, David Icke, Maxwell & Rapporport” I also enunciate the very fact that I also predicted the “Rancho Sante Fe” mass suicide weeks ahead of time on the John Rapporport radio show but it seems those who were directed involved with my predictions and could confirm my claims won’t budge!
God thanks the endless chain of newsletters, posts, radio and television programs I generated since 1991 confirm the undeniable facts of my UFO legacy predictive gift! Discovery Channel – Dr. Turi’s Predictions
Well all I can tell you, my “reverse psychology” worked and, soon or later I was expecting the FBI visit. If you are a VIP, own a copy of my 2013 Moon Power or keep up with my daily predictions on the Cosmic Code website “February 2013 Daily Guidance and Predictions,”you know currently the moon is cruising the sign of Aquarius. This cosmic energy brings about surprises, technology, weird experiences, UFO, shocking news, natural disasters, Blizzard shuts down Northeast large earthquakes, tsunami , eccentricity, the future, the genius of human and all the current news you read on CNN!
I KNEW who they were and I was ready for them…It seem we made it at the same time to my house, as they were going out of their car I drove my hummer on my driveway straight into my garage.
“You know who we are Dr. Turi” one of the gentleman said politely.
“Yes” officers I replied, “you are FBI agents!”
Their magnetism, black sun glasses is a sure get away especially to a supremely sensitive man like me! One of the agent had a printed copy of my newsletter titled “ The FBI and the Dept of Homeland Security Failure” where I mentioned “Kill All the FBI Agents.”
I know they will read, (or at least I hope) this article and I must be real exposing my experience with the Feds!
I knew and they knew about my right and the US constitution first amendment and we spoke for a while about the impact such a provocative title could stir in an unstable individual mind. They were very respectful and very careful in the words they used dealing with me and I returned the same respect. While both where quite young they were also very smart and operated mentally like a couple of well oiled dependable predictable gearboxes. I do not mean to undermine their intelligence but their mental fixity of purpose was obvious in the developing discussion! They had a mission, they had a goal and they had to follow their superiors’ order.
The message was clear, and this was, Dr. Turi realize how your material could be wrongly interpreted by a lunatic in fear of power or the government. We all agreed on this fact, indeed the world is loaded with dangerous lunatics individuals and in they had to make me aware I was endangering them all.
I recognized my voluntary error and explained my position, wisdom and what my expertise with Astropsychology could bring them and they knew right away I was on their side. They also noticed my burning passion but did not exactly liked some of my comments such as; Blaming them for a selective sight concentrating on a single title instead of being more objective dealing with my message. In fact I was surprised and I knew, by the type of questions they were asking me that; they did not click on any of the provided links. I was fast to tell them about this error and why like the majority of people reading my work, they did not behave as real detectives and assumed only.
The discussion got quite intense at time, as I explained to them that I use a modified software and not to be sought as a deceiving psychic or another Mrs. Cleo. I also tried to explain how my methodology and this software could save police officers lives.
Furthermore they did not know I dwelt with some cops with hypnotherapy to beat fears, depressions and “tunnel vision” when handling firearms. I also told them they had probably checked if I had any previous criminal record and knew if I had a concealed weapon license I was as clean as a whistle…
I suggested them again to investigate my work and I further because of my concern for the very high possibility of President Obama’ assassination. They stumble on this comment and kept asking me questions but I knew again they did not read America and Obama’s Fated Stars nor Pray For President Obama!
In fact I told them, do you think it is an accident for me to write about “Kill all FBI Agents” a few days ago and then a corrupted cop killer Rogue ex-cop is heavily armed, trained and hunted is currently making international news killing cops?
They surely know about his deadly aims and must stop him before he kills again but they know nothing involving the Scorpius cosmic fluid currently messing up his psyche, work and service to the world. They never read my prediction pertaining to ALL secrets, especially those involving the FBI, the police etc. being brought to light by this Scorpius Dragon. But those logical souls are untrained to read omens or the “signs” as their traditional education does not acknowledge nor teach such refined spiritual disciplines.
I also told them about the Scorpius Dragon aiming for the Dept. of Homeland Security, forcing a RE-structure’s of the police force and my prediction of some FBI agents messing up with prostitutes. Of course they had NO clue of the 22 set of predictions posted on my website explaining the 2012/2014 deadly Scorpius Dragon offering them undeniable proof of my well documented, dated, printed, published set of predictions.
I tried to explain how this Draconus “cosmic” energy was in charge of the Law Enforcement Agency and the criminal element but like every FBI agents their traditional education does not involve Cosmic Consciousness awareness.
They told me my approach was wrong obviously, and they mentioned some valuable leads where I could offer my expertise to colleges, universities even the Phoenix police itself. Or eventually to write about it…Again they did not know I was a published author of many books reinforcing the fact that they did not honor the word “DETECTIVE.”
I told them to Goggle Dr. Turi and with nearly 5 million hits they would learn more about my expertise, books, articles, predictions, radio and television programs!
I tried to explain that the word “Astropsychology” or me mentioning ”dragon, cosmic consciousness, the stars, astrology etc. those traditional organizations and their accepted disciplines would not accept my 45 years of independent research on the human psyche. I explained my dilemma to both of them, or that I was coming from the archetypal realm of consciousness and the intuitional domain, something the scientific community is ill equipped to deal with. I truly think they understood me well and repetitively told me they were not the right people to convince, instead aim for the appropriate suggested police organizations.
I emphasized the importance of my expertise, explaining that my software would allow a “cosmic conscious” cop to make the critical difference between a Plutonic born killer and a normal law obedient citizen by entering his DOB on the way to a 911 call. Their answer was expected, they are all well trained and cautious at all time, which is understandable but induces unneeded / endless stress to an already very demanding dangerous profession.
While a rigorous training and basic intuition plays a very important part judging any critical situation why not investigating a new adjacent technique that will bring more safety and inner wisdom to all the cops?
I told them if my work could save a single civil servant’s life it it worth investigating. I tried so hard to make justice to my “cosmic” wisdom but both had a “tunnel vision” warning me diligently and politely of the potential to stimulate a criminal mind against the FBI! At time I had their total attention as I was “preaching” the divine and I knew they knew I was far from being either dangerous or stupid!
I kept telling them to let me offer them a little sample of my expertise by giving me only their month of birth, they categorically refused and this meant I was not yet able to convince any of them of my “Human Detector” true talent.
I kept talking and explaining what Astropsychology was all about and how sad I was each time a cosmic unconscious police officer met with his early demise. They asked me the names of some of the cops I worked with but, when I channel from the cosmic mind I usually lose all sense of memory and had no answer. I told them about a N.Y. police Chief about to retire we know very well and communicate often with and some other cops, I asked them to check my website and read their concerns, comments and my answers.
The discussion while hot and and passionate turned in my favor as they were doing quite a lot of listening and this is where I asked again for one of the FBI agent to give me his month of birth, and he did!
He was born in January, in the constellation of Capricorn, I knew he was curious and I had his attention only for a short time so I quickly explained what the word “UCI or Unique Celestial Identity” meant. I told him born in January *Capricorn (the Goat/Uncle Sam) which is his first house, he was naturally attracted to a career with the feds.
There is so much more about being a January soul, but I had to race into his 10th house or his career/ accomplishments explaining his Libra (the law) cosmic flux which again makes him a born psychologist or an attorney. In fact many cops are Capricorn and operate as engineers of in a structured governmental institution. I also mentioned his Pisces 3rd house (critical thinking) swimming up into the divine like Einstein, George Washington, artistic Michael Angelo, Dr. Turi or the born negative fish swimming downstream like Osama Bin Laden and Joel Osteen.
He was perplexed, especially when I told him the reason why he did not want to give me his DOB was because of its natural skepticism and/or religious convictions… He did not answer me, but he offered me a big smile and came right back asking me if, someone was to contact me with bad intention against the FBI to let them know right away.
I then turned towards his friend, asking him to get a test of Astropsychology but he was very quiet, very private, very cautious and all ears…This denote a very strong Scorpio energy coming from his psychical conception, either on his Sun, Moon or natal/hidden Dragon. And HE alone knows, can now judge my perceptive nature nature, because, as they left I gave them my card and I know they will read more of my work.
I suggested them to join the Cosmic Code website for free and both again politely and gallantly refused as their felt their very specific mission with me was accomplished.
Meantime there are no doubt both of them felt my drive, my honorable intentions and I even told them, for me to stand strong, firm and confident today in from of you two speaks of my passionate dedication trust in faith in something that could benefit the Law Enforcement Agency. Jokingly I told them I could be right now on top of my house with an assault weapon screaming for national attention and take the chance of being killed. Their jaws dropped when I made this comment only Dr. Turi can come up with to make people really think!
For me to put myself and Terania in such a situation, facing two FBI agents in my house, speaks of a higher purpose from a rare wisdom that could change the entire police force perception and save countless lives. With thousands of cops from all walks of life now reading my work all I can hope for is to convince the Law Enforcement Authorities to give me a chance to prove a claim that is all too obvious to my students, patients and clients…
In all there is no way for me to really know how I performed with those two great human beings and if this experience will stir them to learn more about Astropsychology! But one thing is sure, God sent those two souls my way for a very specific purpose. And this is well pass warning me about the craziness of some US citizens reacting negatively to my provocative titles. It seem my “reverse psychology” brought its cosmic fruits to two FBI agents but what can I do next to reach their superiors?
Remember there are no accidents, only cosmic circumstances unknown to science and the world at large and those cosmic unconscious FBI agents were fated to work for the Fed. Yes one thing I know, they had questions, they were ready, they had questions and God sent them two my way to get some answers. Today, I will again blast all US FBI and police offices and hopefully they can learn a bit more about a 63 years old man original cosmic wisdom as I introduce them to Christopher Dormer ‘ s ”UCI or Unique Celestial Identity.”
Search for former LA cop focuses on mountain resort
Now on to the explanation of Christopher Dormer ‘ s actions – Christopher Dormer was born June 4, 1979 under the communicative, dual sign of Gemini. This sign is ruled by Mercury, the messenger of the Gods and a master in communication. If you read his LONG note to the police “http://news.msn.com/us/manhunt-on-for-former-cop-suspected-in-3-killings?ocid=ansnews11” it really speaks of the true essence of a very communicative Mercurial soul. Sad enough the traditionally educated police psychologists kids are far from realizing the wealth of information Astropsychology can offer in any subject’s psychical investigations.
Christopher Dormer is DUAL ( so am I ) Gemini and everything in his life will happen in pair!
GEMINI
Mercury Governs the Nervous and Witty Dual Constellation Of Gemini
Freethinking and intelligent
You will not find me under rigorous management
You may think you know me well
Then my other half over you casts a spell
I am GEMINI, child of Mercury.
“You are saying to yourself that this is completely out of character of the man you knew who always wore a smile wherever he was seen. Police said officers still were guarding more than 40 people mentioned as targets in a rant they said Dorner posted on Facebook. He vowed to use “every bit of small arms training, demolition, ordnance and survival training I’ve been given” to bring “warfare” to the LAPD and its families.”
Christopher Dormer was born with his moon (emotional response to life) in the sign of Libra (the law.)
“No one grows up and wants to be a cop killer. It was against everything I’ve ever was. As a young police explorer I found my calling in life.”
This sign rules justice and steers the soul to work enforcing the law and enunciate why Christopher wanted to be a cop! But the biggest problem here is his moon (emotional persona) receives the extraordinary intense, revengeful, destructive, passionate planet ( Pluto (Lord of Hell in Greek mythology) quadruplicating his destructive emotions and vengeful nature.
Christopher Dormer was born with Mars (danger/weaponry Lord of War in Greek Mythology) in the stubborn sign of Taurus (security. )
Sad enough this violent planet is located in his 12th subconscious house and losing his job brought a very strong sense of insecurity that endlessly consumed his life. In this house Mars become repressed and the cosmic energy can only be released with deadly plannings.
Christopher Dormer was born with Uranus (shocking/surprises/unsuspected, the Lord of the Skies in Greek Mythology) in the deadly sign of Scorpio (death. )
Both explosive Uranus and deadly Scorpio afflicts Christopher’s 6th house of work and service to the world and depict no fear of death. “I know most of you who personally know me are in disbelief to hear from media reports that I am suspected of committing such horrendous murders and have taken drastic and shocking actions in the last couple of days.”
Christopher Dormer was born with Neptune ( religions//drugs), the Lord of deception in Greek Mythology) in the philosophical sign of Sagittarius ( wildness.)
Sad enough this planet is located in his 7th house (partnerships) and bring serious deception and manipulation from/with all the people he faces everyday. This planet also enunciate the use of chemicals. Remember my Astropsychology expertise does not reflect modern astrology methodology thus facing the world, Mr. Dormer becomes a wild Sagittarius (the Indians/the wild) and why he feels very comfortable in the mountains where he is currently hiding. While there are so many more clues available in my expertise let now give the Coup De Grace and the real reasons behind his deadly acts!
BIG BEAR LAKE, Calif. — More than 100 officers fanned out again at daybreak Saturday in the snow-covered San Bernardino Mountains, resuming the search for the former Los Angeles police officer suspected of going on a deadly rampage to get back at those he blamed for ending his career.
While my interpretations make total sense to my Astropsychology students, I doubt very much the general public and the The American Academy of Police and Public Safety Psychology, without the basic understanding of the “cosmic” dynamics involved, will ever get my message… I can only try!
Christopher Dormer was born with the same natal Dragons’ Tail (negative) in Pisces (delusion/drugs) as serial killer Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer. This nefarious cosmic energy is right into his 10th house of career and public accomplishment fating him to become a corrupted cop. Furthermore his hidden Dragon is also found afflicting his career adding more reality to what transpired all along his career and the horrific end.
While Dormer’s moon (emotion) in Libra (the Law) lead him to police work “As a young police explorer I found my calling in life.” the rest of his ”UCI or Unique Celestial Identity” did not endorse such a choice! Thus the entire “cosmic unconscious” staff at the The American Academy of Police and Public Safety Psychology have a lot to learn. The question is will they be willing to “think out of the box” and learn more about the working of the human psyche outside of their accepted disciplines and “accredited” education? At 63 years old my independent researches on Astropsychology can bring the many answers they are all enslaved to find for sure!
I AM HERE FOR THEM ALL!
*The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift. We will not solve the problems of the world from the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. More than anything else, this new century demands new thinking: We must change our materially based analyses of the world around us to include broader, more multidimensional perspectives.”
~Albert Einstein*
The big problem is, currently the ”cosmic unconscious” American Academy of Police and Public Safety Psychology train and hire thousands doomed souls like Mr. Dormer which at the end cost tremendous wasted tax legal fortunes and even death!
Yes too many cops met with a much too early demise or end up crooked and in jail. To “Serve and Protect” stars by cleaning the ignorance before they make their way at the top Executive levels. There is no doubt in my mind that like all departments of the human experiences corruption reign supreme. And this Scorpius dragon act out God cosmic will through the actions and words of people like Mr. Dormer and Dr. Turi. One working for evil, acting out neurotically, subconsciously his destructive stars, the other (Dr. Turi) doing exactly the same but all in direction to the light, justice and wisdom for all.
How can one serve and protect others when he /she is not served with divine wisdom or protected by God’s will written in light? But how can this supreme wisdom can be used without interfering with the ”Fair and Legal Employment Act?”
Hiring future cops using Astropsychology would be considered as bad as racism but the fact remain, ignoring, repelling, or ridicule God’s celestial laws brings a serious penalty at the end all “cosmic unconscious” human beings are forced to acknowledge…
Mr. Dormer days are numbered for sure, the Dragon will be against him on February 10/11/12/13 and like Osama Bin Laden nefarious soul death will be closing on him near or in water… For if Christopher Dorner manage to bypass his upcoming personal “unlucky window dates” this dragon will deliver its deadly promises and this is where I hope, I will be reached again by the FBI to offer my expertise to kill this loss, dangerous wild bear.
Blessings to all
Dr. Turi
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Oh Dude. I think you’d better refill your subscriptions. It’s obvious you’ve missed a few doses.
I say that for your own good.
P.S. – this isn’t about you. You are turning this whole thread into a infomercial about yourself. That’s not right.
I am done writing about the reasons why Christopher Dorne killed the cops… Note 2 FBI agents visited me this morning after reading “The FBI and the Dept of Homeland Security Failure” – I did elaborate on this quite interesting meeting and those two FBI agents reactions so enjoy…
Warning to The FBI – Dr. Turi and Christopher Dorner
http://www.drturi.com/warning-to-the-fbi-dr-turi-and-christopher-dorner/
Dr. Turi
me and a bunch of others talked about this and thought that there was something about this we believe that chris dorner is doing this for a reason and we think LAPD and all other CROOKED COPS should let the FBI or somebody els look for him somebody who wont shoot first then TRYto ask ?s later,YOU GO CHRIS DORNER show them , good luck,bob
Oddly my daughter and I were talking about the same thing earlier. He mentioned Charlie Sheen in his Manifesto. Charlie Sheen has publicly asked the guy to contact him so they can work this all out,
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Charlie Sheen releases video telling Christopher Dorner, ‘thank you… call me’
http://www.examiner.com/article/charlie-sheen-releases-video-telling-christopher-dorner-thank-you-call-me
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I like Charlie Sheen a lot. And this is just one more reason.
Hey Pals, this is what Hollywood films and mainstream media done to human mind!
You sound like Wayne LaPierre, which is not helpful at all.
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Dorner is another “Brainwashed” CIA Robot…his ultimate “assignment” could be as a patsy to vilify gun owners… or to help fuel a race war!
This is a sad, sad, display of what our systems are breeding. We are taught that if we strive for honesty, and integrity that this will be displayed through our rite of passage. But what do you do when the very institution you believe in proves to have dysfunction and corruption. I am saddened that this officer has chosen the vigilante aspect, rather of being protected by his superiors for trying to right an injustice. I was pushed out of a government agency also and the feelings of depression begin to get me too. However I realized that since I could not find the position I was seeking in any organization, I decided to start my own organization. I do not believe this manifesto is the dialogue of someone without cause. When your name is desecrated what else do you have to stand for? Murder is not an option, but I do hope that the truth prevails. Rather or not his name will be mud because now he has done senseless acts to those that were innocent. How can you serve and protect, but yet kill??? I applaud you for standing up for whats right, but you should of done it more rationally.
Great response!
Obviously fake manifesto. He want’s to clear his name by killing people. Probably with a gun.. Then bring up the Nazis and the “eternal victims” and the (alleged) holocaust… Stopped reading after that. Americans are dumb and deserve what they’re getting
A murderer plays the race card……how unique
You commenters are all nitpicking at the wrong things and/or are replacing what should be something close to educated speculation with unfounded opinion. Yes, there’s no excuse to killing the individuals he killed. God rest their souls. If you as a third party are going to take it a step beyond being sorry for the innocent lives taken and civilians injured, make sure to read this manifesto and everything article surrounding it. Then do some research before making half-witted remarks like “there are tons of ways he could have handled this in court,” “this man is sick,” or “this is fake because the article said he was a retired cop, but this says he was fired.” Clearly you didn’t read, but after that inaccurate comment, you launch into your horribly unfounded judgement.
Sane people do insane things when pushed. This is the clearest example of this. He’s horrible for doing this. The people responsible for pushing him to this are also horrible. The people on the sidelines with us who are too high-and-mighty to admit they’ve lost control before (and uses this to judge this man): I feel for you. Given similar circumstance, you’d probably respond exactly as this man did.
Nonsense. If we all reacted (or most or many of us) like this guy we wouldn’t be worrying about global warming or overpopulation.
I have read his Manifesto. All of it.
I don’t believe the guy just suddenly ‘snapped’. I’ve read about what a whack he’s been for quite some time now. Paranoid and defensive with feelings of persecution.
He was wronged by the LAPD. But he’s not the Lone Ranger. Many many people have been wronged by the LAPD. It been going on for decades and generations. These victimes just don’t go around killing innocent people. And that is the difference that matters.
Do I believe what he says about the corruption on the force? Hell yeah, I have traceable brainwave patterns. Do I believe he did everything he could to try to set this right in ways that didn’t include killing the daughter of the man who defended him and her fiancee? Hell fire NO.
This guy ain’t Zorro. In order to be able to claim the moral high ground, you have to be better than those that you are railing against. He is now what he says he hates.
Don’t forget the people he ‘allegedly’ killed… NOT outright killed! That is what the LAPD claims he did. Where is the evidence? Why is that NOT given to the media? This all stinks of hired assassins… similar to the Batman massacre scenario. It’s all about gun control issues to take our 2nd amendment rights away t protect ourselves from the POLICE everywhere!
Don’t you all GET IT YET?
The NDAA law? The Executive Orders Obama has signed that the MSM is NOT going public with?
WAKE UP… or are you all The Sheeple?
EVERYTHING isn’t a conspiracy. And this guy ain’t nobody’s innocent victim anymore.
Hes wrong and right………hes wrong about murdering these people…………..but then he is 100% correct about these racist ass people in high places…..and 1 of them, im pretty sure, might be u…
This version has been altered by some piece of shit.
Here is what the original looks like: http://documents.latimes.com/christopher-dorner-manifesto/
”For those who know me and the Cosmic Code jurisdictions, no explanation is necessary; For those who do not, none will ever suffice…
A DIRECT WARNING TO DEPT OF HOMELAND SECURITY, THE POLICE ADMINISTRATION, THE FBI, CIA AND ALL THE SECRET SERVICE AGENCIES!
CHRISTOPHER DORMER IS RESPONDING NEUROTICALLY, COSMICALLY TO THE CURRENT SCORPIUS DRAGON AIMING FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY AND ITS FULL PREDICTED RESTRUCTURE SLOWLY BECOMING A REALITY! FOR ME TO DO WHAT I DID AND PURPOSELY “INVITE” THE FBI IN MY HOUSE SPEAK OF A VERY IMPORTANT MESSAGE I HAVE FOR A COSMIC UNCONSCIOUS POLICE ADMINISTRATION AND ALL OUR BRAVE PUBLIC SERVANTS RISKING THEIR LIVES DAILY.
ALL YOU ARE EXPERIENCING TODAY WITH MR. DORMER SPEAKS OF THE DESTRUCTIVE SCORPIUS POWER REGIMENTING YOUR LIVES AND THE REASON WHY IN ORDER TO ATTRACT YOUR ATTENTION I WROTE ‘KILL ALL THE FBI AGENTS.”
I AM ASKING THE POLICE AND MY WORLD WIDE READING AUDIENCE TO TAKE ME VERY SERIOUSLY FOR I KNOW OF THE EXTRAORDINARY PLUTONIC FORCES INSIDE THIS DESPERATE MAN AND HIS DEDICATION TO KILL MANY OF YOU.
I TRIED THE IMPOSSIBLE TO REACH YOU LAST FEW DAYS PUTTING MYSELF AND MY WIFE IN A PECULIAR POSITION AND FOR ME TO DO SO SPEAK OF MY COURAGE, DEDICATION, CONVICTION AND RARE WISDOM TO HELP YOU CATCH THIS KILLER WITH MY EXPERTISE!
YOU ARE DEALING WITH COSMIC FORCES YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. I WILL OFFER YOU THE REAL REASONS WHY MR. DORMER WENT ON THIS DEADLY RAMPAGE AND THE ANSWERS ARE WELL ABOVE THE FIVE LIMITED HUMAN SENSES OF ALL THE TRADITIONALLY EDUCATED DETECTIVES ASSIGNED TO STOP HIM! CHRISTOPHER DORMER WARNED YOU , ITS NOW MY TURN TO DO THE SAME, WITH THE DIFFERENCE THAT I AM ON YOUR SIDE!
DR. TURI
Dear Readers;
The message I received yesterday from those two FBI Agents was very clear, STOP NOW! I failed reaching them or their supervisors, so I am only trying harder this time! Before getting into the full experience and exploring Christopher Dormer’ cosmic energy let me refresh your memory. When I assure you that I am CNN before CNN all you have to do is to read the updated version of ”N.E. Historic Blizzard? Is it time for science to wake up?”
Check the UFO legacy predictions on my latest show from thirdphaseofmoon
DID I MENTION COSMIC NEWS? IN THIS SHOW? YES I DID!
Asteroid to pay Earth a close visit
Incidentally the same exact Uranic cosmic energy of January 23, 2012 was used in “Discovery Channel – Dr. Turi’s Predictions” when I made this prediction weeks ahead of time and offered the facts on national TV in ”Dr. Turi on William Shatner’s TV Show“
Solar storm’s spectacular display
Before explaining my experience with the two FBI agents visit, all I can tell you is during our intense discussion I told them that; I sent certified mail to then police Chief Daryl Gate weeks ahead of the Rodney King beating warning him about a Plutonic window that would change his life and all of those of his police officers involved. This letter went probably straight to the trash and never passed his secretary and this is where I wish whom ever read my dated prediction would come forward to confirm my claim. Meantime I have more chances winning the state lottery before this happen…
I also mentioned that weeks ahead of time, I also sent certified mail to San Diego ex-police Chief Burgreen giving him the exact date of August 15, 1991 where he would catch the La Jolla Torrey Pines cop killer and when this happened I never received any form of confirmation from his office either…Note during those days I was living in San Diego and paid close attention to the news development and we did not have the Internet!
Furthermore in “George Noory, David Icke, Maxwell & Rapporport” I also enunciate the very fact that I also predicted the “Rancho Sante Fe” mass suicide weeks ahead of time on the John Rapporport radio show but it seems those who were directed involved with my predictions and could confirm my claims won’t budge!
God thanks the endless chain of newsletters, posts, radio and television programs I generated since 1991 confirm the undeniable facts of my UFO legacy predictive gift! Discovery Channel – Dr. Turi’s Predictions
Well all I can tell you, my “reverse psychology” worked and, soon or later I was expecting the FBI visit. If you are a VIP, own a copy of my 2013 Moon Power or keep up with my daily predictions on the Cosmic Code website “February 2013 Daily Guidance and Predictions,”you know currently the moon is cruising the sign of Aquarius. This cosmic energy brings about surprises, technology, weird experiences, UFO, shocking news, natural disasters, Blizzard shuts down Northeast large earthquakes, tsunami , eccentricity, the future, the genius of human and all the current news you read on CNN!
I KNEW who they were and I was ready for them…It seem we made it at the same time to my house, as they were going out of their car I drove my hummer on my driveway straight into my garage.
“You know who we are Dr. Turi” one of the gentleman said politely.
“Yes” officers I replied, “you are FBI agents!”
Their magnetism, black sun glasses is a sure get away especially to a supremely sensitive man like me! One of the agent had a printed copy of my newsletter titled “ The FBI and the Dept of Homeland Security Failure” where I mentioned “Kill All the FBI Agents.”
I know they will read, (or at least I hope) this article and I must be real exposing my experience with the Feds!
I knew and they knew about my right and the US constitution first amendment and we spoke for a while about the impact such a provocative title could stir in an unstable individual mind. They were very respectful and very careful in the words they used dealing with me and I returned the same respect. While both where quite young they were also very smart and operated mentally like a couple of well oiled dependable predictable gearboxes. I do not mean to undermine their intelligence but their mental fixity of purpose was obvious in the developing discussion! They had a mission, they had a goal and they had to follow their superiors’ order.
The message was clear, and this was, Dr. Turi realize how your material could be wrongly interpreted by a lunatic in fear of power or the government. We all agreed on this fact, indeed the world is loaded with dangerous lunatics individuals and in they had to make me aware I was endangering them all.
I recognized my voluntary error and explained my position, wisdom and what my expertise with Astropsychology could bring them and they knew right away I was on their side. They also noticed my burning passion but did not exactly liked some of my comments such as; Blaming them for a selective sight concentrating on a single title instead of being more objective dealing with my message. In fact I was surprised and I knew, by the type of questions they were asking me that; they did not click on any of the provided links. I was fast to tell them about this error and why like the majority of people reading my work, they did not behave as real detectives and assumed only.
The discussion got quite intense at time, as I explained to them that I use a modified software and not to be sought as a deceiving psychic or another Mrs. Cleo. I also tried to explain how my methodology and this software could save police officers lives.
Furthermore they did not know I dwelt with some cops with hypnotherapy to beat fears, depressions and “tunnel vision” when handling firearms. I also told them they had probably checked if I had any previous criminal record and knew if I had a concealed weapon license I was as clean as a whistle…
I suggested them again to investigate my work and I further because of my concern for the very high possibility of President Obama’ assassination. They stumble on this comment and kept asking me questions but I knew again they did not read America and Obama’s Fated Stars nor Pray For President Obama!
In fact I told them, do you think it is an accident for me to write about “Kill all FBI Agents” a few days ago and then a corrupted cop killer Rogue ex-cop is heavily armed, trained and hunted is currently making international news killing cops?
They surely know about his deadly aims and must stop him before he kills again but they know nothing involving the Scorpius cosmic fluid currently messing up his psyche, work and service to the world. They never read my prediction pertaining to ALL secrets, especially those involving the FBI, the police etc. being brought to light by this Scorpius Dragon. But those logical souls are untrained to read omens or the “signs” as their traditional education does not acknowledge nor teach such refined spiritual disciplines.
I also told them about the Scorpius Dragon aiming for the Dept. of Homeland Security, forcing a RE-structure’s of the police force and my prediction of some FBI agents messing up with prostitutes. Of course they had NO clue of the 22 set of predictions posted on my website explaining the 2012/2014 deadly Scorpius Dragon offering them undeniable proof of my well documented, dated, printed, published set of predictions.
I tried to explain how this Draconus “cosmic” energy was in charge of the Law Enforcement Agency and the criminal element but like every FBI agents their traditional education does not involve Cosmic Consciousness awareness.
They told me my approach was wrong obviously, and they mentioned some valuable leads where I could offer my expertise to colleges, universities even the Phoenix police itself. Or eventually to write about it…Again they did not know I was a published author of many books reinforcing the fact that they did not honor the word “DETECTIVE.”
I told them to Goggle Dr. Turi and with nearly 5 million hits they would learn more about my expertise, books, articles, predictions, radio and television programs!
I tried to explain that the word “Astropsychology” or me mentioning ”dragon, cosmic consciousness, the stars, astrology etc. those traditional organizations and their accepted disciplines would not accept my 45 years of independent research on the human psyche. I explained my dilemma to both of them, or that I was coming from the archetypal realm of consciousness and the intuitional domain, something the scientific community is ill equipped to deal with. I truly think they understood me well and repetitively told me they were not the right people to convince, instead aim for the appropriate suggested police organizations.
I emphasized the importance of my expertise, explaining that my software would allow a “cosmic conscious” cop to make the critical difference between a Plutonic born killer and a normal law obedient citizen by entering his DOB on the way to a 911 call. Their answer was expected, they are all well trained and cautious at all time, which is understandable but induces unneeded / endless stress to an already very demanding dangerous profession.
While a rigorous training and basic intuition plays a very important part judging any critical situation why not investigating a new adjacent technique that will bring more safety and inner wisdom to all the cops?
I told them if my work could save a single civil servant’s life it it worth investigating. I tried so hard to make justice to my “cosmic” wisdom but both had a “tunnel vision” warning me diligently and politely of the potential to stimulate a criminal mind against the FBI! At time I had their total attention as I was “preaching” the divine and I knew they knew I was far from being either dangerous or stupid!
I kept telling them to let me offer them a little sample of my expertise by giving me only their month of birth, they categorically refused and this meant I was not yet able to convince any of them of my “Human Detector” true talent.
I kept talking and explaining what Astropsychology was all about and how sad I was each time a cosmic unconscious police officer met with his early demise. They asked me the names of some of the cops I worked with but, when I channel from the cosmic mind I usually lose all sense of memory and had no answer. I told them about a N.Y. police Chief about to retire we know very well and communicate often with and some other cops, I asked them to check my website and read their concerns, comments and my answers.
The discussion while hot and and passionate turned in my favor as they were doing quite a lot of listening and this is where I asked again for one of the FBI agent to give me his month of birth, and he did!
He was born in January, in the constellation of Capricorn, I knew he was curious and I had his attention only for a short time so I quickly explained what the word “UCI or Unique Celestial Identity” meant. I told him born in January *Capricorn (the Goat/Uncle Sam) which is his first house, he was naturally attracted to a career with the feds.
There is so much more about being a January soul, but I had to race into his 10th house or his career/ accomplishments explaining his Libra (the law) cosmic flux which again makes him a born psychologist or an attorney. In fact many cops are Capricorn and operate as engineers of in a structured governmental institution. I also mentioned his Pisces 3rd house (critical thinking) swimming up into the divine like Einstein, George Washington, artistic Michael Angelo, Dr. Turi or the born negative fish swimming downstream like Osama Bin Laden and Joel Osteen.
He was perplexed, especially when I told him the reason why he did not want to give me his DOB was because of its natural skepticism and/or religious convictions… He did not answer me, but he offered me a big smile and came right back asking me if, someone was to contact me with bad intention against the FBI to let them know right away.
I then turned towards his friend, asking him to get a test of Astropsychology but he was very quiet, very private, very cautious and all ears…This denote a very strong Scorpio energy coming from his psychical conception, either on his Sun, Moon or natal/hidden Dragon. And HE alone knows, can now judge my perceptive nature nature, because, as they left I gave them my card and I know they will read more of my work.
I suggested them to join the Cosmic Code website for free and both again politely and gallantly refused as their felt their very specific mission with me was accomplished.
Meantime there are no doubt both of them felt my drive, my honorable intentions and I even told them, for me to stand strong, firm and confident today in from of you two speaks of my passionate dedication trust in faith in something that could benefit the Law Enforcement Agency. Jokingly I told them I could be right now on top of my house with an assault weapon screaming for national attention and take the chance of being killed. Their jaws dropped when I made this comment only Dr. Turi can come up with to make people really think!
For me to put myself and Terania in such a situation, facing two FBI agents in my house, speaks of a higher purpose from a rare wisdom that could change the entire police force perception and save countless lives. With thousands of cops from all walks of life now reading my work all I can hope for is to convince the Law Enforcement Authorities to give me a chance to prove a claim that is all too obvious to my students, patients and clients…
In all there is no way for me to really know how I performed with those two great human beings and if this experience will stir them to learn more about Astropsychology! But one thing is sure, God sent those two souls my way for a very specific purpose. And this is well pass warning me about the craziness of some US citizens reacting negatively to my provocative titles. It seem my “reverse psychology” brought its cosmic fruits to two FBI agents but what can I do next to reach their superiors?
Remember there are no accidents, only cosmic circumstances unknown to science and the world at large and those cosmic unconscious FBI agents were fated to work for the Fed. Yes one thing I know, they had questions, they were ready, they had questions and God sent them two my way to get some answers. Today, I will again blast all US FBI and police offices and hopefully they can learn a bit more about a 63 years old man original cosmic wisdom as I introduce them to Christopher Dormer ‘ s ”UCI or Unique Celestial Identity.”
Search for former LA cop focuses on mountain resort
Now on to the explanation of Christopher Dormer ‘ s actions – Christopher Dormer was born June 4, 1979 under the communicative, dual sign of Gemini. This sign is ruled by Mercury, the messenger of the Gods and a master in communication. If you read his LONG note to the police “http://news.msn.com/us/manhunt-on-for-former-cop-suspected-in-3-killings?ocid=ansnews11” it really speaks of the true essence of a very communicative Mercurial soul. Sad enough the traditionally educated police psychologists kids are far from realizing the wealth of information Astropsychology can offer in any subject’s psychical investigations.
Christopher Dormer is DUAL ( so am I ) Gemini and everything in his life will happen in pair!
GEMINI
Mercury Governs the Nervous and Witty Dual Constellation Of Gemini
Freethinking and intelligent
You will not find me under rigorous management
You may think you know me well
Then my other half over you casts a spell
I am GEMINI, child of Mercury.
“You are saying to yourself that this is completely out of character of the man you knew who always wore a smile wherever he was seen. Police said officers still were guarding more than 40 people mentioned as targets in a rant they said Dorner posted on Facebook. He vowed to use “every bit of small arms training, demolition, ordnance and survival training I’ve been given” to bring “warfare” to the LAPD and its families.”
Christopher Dormer was born with his moon (emotional response to life) in the sign of Libra (the law.)
“No one grows up and wants to be a cop killer. It was against everything I’ve ever was. As a young police explorer I found my calling in life.”
This sign rules justice and steers the soul to work enforcing the law and enunciate why Christopher wanted to be a cop! But the biggest problem here is his moon (emotional persona) receives the extraordinary intense, revengeful, destructive, passionate planet ( Pluto (Lord of Hell in Greek mythology) quadruplicating his destructive emotions and vengeful nature.
Christopher Dormer was born with Mars (danger/weaponry Lord of War in Greek Mythology) in the stubborn sign of Taurus (security. )
Sad enough this violent planet is located in his 12th subconscious house and losing his job brought a very strong sense of insecurity that endlessly consumed his life. In this house Mars become repressed and the cosmic energy can only be released with deadly plannings.
Christopher Dormer was born with Uranus (shocking/surprises/unsuspected, the Lord of the Skies in Greek Mythology) in the deadly sign of Scorpio (death. )
Both explosive Uranus and deadly Scorpio afflicts Christopher’s 6th house of work and service to the world and depict no fear of death. “I know most of you who personally know me are in disbelief to hear from media reports that I am suspected of committing such horrendous murders and have taken drastic and shocking actions in the last couple of days.”
Christopher Dormer was born with Neptune ( religions//drugs), the Lord of deception in Greek Mythology) in the philosophical sign of Sagittarius ( wildness.)
Sad enough this planet is located in his 7th house (partnerships) and bring serious deception and manipulation from/with all the people he faces everyday. This planet also enunciate the use of chemicals. Remember my Astropsychology expertise does not reflect modern astrology methodology thus facing the world, Mr. Dormer becomes a wild Sagittarius (the Indians/the wild) and why he feels very comfortable in the mountains where he is currently hiding. While there are so many more clues available in my expertise let now give the Coup De Grace and the real reasons behind his deadly acts!
BIG BEAR LAKE, Calif. — More than 100 officers fanned out again at daybreak Saturday in the snow-covered San Bernardino Mountains, resuming the search for the former Los Angeles police officer suspected of going on a deadly rampage to get back at those he blamed for ending his career.
While my interpretations make total sense to my Astropsychology students, I doubt very much the general public and the The American Academy of Police and Public Safety Psychology, without the basic understanding of the “cosmic” dynamics involved, will ever get my message… I can only try!
Christopher Dormer was born with the same natal Dragons’ Tail (negative) in Pisces (delusion/drugs) as serial killer Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer. This nefarious cosmic energy is right into his 10th house of career and public accomplishment fating him to become a corrupted cop. Furthermore his hidden Dragon is also found afflicting his career adding more reality to what transpired all along his career and the horrific end.
While Dormer’s moon (emotion) in Libra (the Law) lead him to police work “As a young police explorer I found my calling in life.” the rest of his ”UCI or Unique Celestial Identity” did not endorse such a choice! Thus the entire “cosmic unconscious” staff at the The American Academy of Police and Public Safety Psychology have a lot to learn. The question is will they be willing to “think out of the box” and learn more about the working of the human psyche outside of their accepted disciplines and “accredited” education? At 63 years old my independent researches on Astropsychology can bring the many answers they are all enslaved to find for sure!
I AM HERE FOR THEM ALL!
*The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift. We will not solve the problems of the world from the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. More than anything else, this new century demands new thinking: We must change our materially based analyses of the world around us to include broader, more multidimensional perspectives.”
~Albert Einstein*
The big problem is, currently the ”cosmic unconscious” American Academy of Police and Public Safety Psychology train and hire thousands doomed souls like Mr. Dormer which at the end cost tremendous wasted tax legal fortunes and even death!
Yes too many cops met with a much too early demise or end up crooked and in jail. To “Serve and Protect” stars by cleaning the ignorance before they make their way at the top Executive levels. There is no doubt in my mind that like all departments of the human experiences corruption reign supreme. And this Scorpius dragon act out God cosmic will through the actions and words of people like Mr. Dormer and Dr. Turi. One working for evil, acting out neurotically, subconsciously his destructive stars, the other (Dr. Turi) doing exactly the same but all in direction to the light, justice and wisdom for all.
How can one serve and protect others when he /she is not served with divine wisdom or protected by God’s will written in light? But how can this supreme wisdom can be used without interfering with the ”Fair and Legal Employment Act?”
Hiring future cops using Astropsychology would be considered as bad as racism but the fact remain, ignoring, repelling, or ridicule God’s celestial laws brings a serious penalty at the end all “cosmic unconscious” human beings are forced to acknowledge…
Mr. Dormer days are numbered for sure, the Dragon will be against him on February 10/11/12/13 and like Osama Bin Laden nefarious soul death will be closing on him near or in water… For if Christopher Dorner manage to bypass his upcoming personal “unlucky window dates” this dragon will deliver its deadly promises and this is where I hope, I will be reached again by the FBI to offer my expertise to kill this loss, dangerous wild bear.
Blessings to all
Dr. Turi
ASTROLOGY IS AM ART, DR. TURI IS THE MASTER!
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History will be the Judge of all of this, and what then will furture peoples say of it all,Depending on the rights and how the world is then, an compared to our own as it is now,Yet I say, Honor, How do you live with killing Two Inncocents, Just because they were bait to use to make prey aware of your ruthlessness for the object of your personal misson of war upon them, That Sir Is Not With Honor, That is a Tool in the Art of War, Those of us watching this Drama unfold, We see what Yourself called belief in Honor is, Not Morals, But Personal ethics, To make your mission, Oh so self an meaningful to just you.What say Ye to That?Does it make is easyer for your honor, or just easyer to kill, so indefirently an detached, Snipper code an way, Some of us do understand, and we Question the Very act you say with honor of having performed.
This fool was paid by anti gun advocates he is a murderer and should be put down he is positively racist and a bully piece of shit
He was ‘paid by anti-gun associates’?
That would be funny if it wasn’t so frighteningly stupid.
Everything boils down to guns with some people. Or how somebody else is trying to take their semi-autos and 100-shell clips from the poor babies.
@drturi
WOW! you’re a nut job!
But a very persistent one, if you’ll notice. I can’t figure out this person’s ‘agenda’ (for lack of a better word).
I believe Mr.Dorner is telling the truth! Police are not all bad but most wearing that uniform think they are above the law. Thank you for having Integrity Mr. Dorner. Enjoyed your manifesto! Hope they dont catch you.
Fuk all of you white devils! I pray more blacks rise up in revenge and “MERK” all of you motherfukers!!! And I spelled “Fuk” incorrectly on purpose. Fuk all yall!!!!!
Realy White Devil. That the best posting you can do,tells a lot of the person, you don’t like it here, go back to your ethic origin and protest that suff there against americans.
And this white woman says right back atcha.
YOU illustrate perfectly why we can’t get anywhere. And by ‘we’ I mean the majority of the people in this country, the 99%.
But you just go on your divisive way and see how far you get.
well all i can say durrell is that it isnt only the white people, its the blacks to. As for Dornor look I understand you but two innocent people died and I agree that you need to serve justice for that, but yes there are other ways of dealing with the corruption of the LAPD and yes it is true they are corrupt. We really are not going to ever clean it up because most of them are cowards to stand up and deal with the problem.
People jump up and down and claim “the sky is falling” when a PUBLIC SERVANT or his family is taken out… but when these “public servants” TERRORIZE people (surprise little kids and teachers with fake school-shooter “drills”), execute “suspects” (endless examples on youtube), murder innocent civilians and their dog for growing a plant, invade the WRONG address for a bogus search warrant (often shooting/killing the occupants), plant evidence and write false reports, send OUR children to fight endless fake wars (for corporate/banker profits), violate their oaths daily, and other acts of tyranny and terrorism; We The People will… eventually… respond in kind.
You push and push and push (which is part of your plan ‘TO DIVIDE AND CONQUER’). You create FAKE terrorism that kills INNOCENT MASSES, which makes no logical sense in the long run. People are waking up to the “oxymoronic terrorist”. Someone finally realized that if you are going to fight an enemy, you take out the ones who actually did you harm (or assisted them), NOT the guy who delivers your pizza, mows your lawn, babysits your kids, or services your car. If THEY target you, turn the tables. KNOW THINE ENEMY!!! I’ll bet “millions to one” odds that the people can change things VERY rapidly with enough EQUAL JUSTICE.
To those spineless and limp cowards who claim that it is “sinking to their level” or “becoming what you claim to hate”, I say B.S. Why do you not scream and cry for justice for all of the tens of thousands of people who are terrorized or killed by cops each year? And why not protest when the cops or politicians are PROMOTED for their crimes??? How about the 750,000 people MURDERED by the medical mafia each year??? That’s a LOT more than the 3,000 that allegedly died on 9/11 by “Saudi hijackers with box-cutters and student visas.” How many millions have died since 9/11? A lot more than 3,000 soldiers have committed “suicide” since 9/11, and 20+ are killing themselves EVERY DAY because the brainwashing wore off, or they were “medicated” to death.
Remember, if someone is deemed “mentally unstable”, he allegedly loses his 2nd Amendment rights. Just call them a “conspiracy nut” and then take away their guns “for the greater good” of society… you know, “FOR THE CHILDREN.” The REAL reason for making sure all of our “best and brightest” are slaughtered overseas… to weaken the HOMELAND for an easy invasion or takeover. State governors need to wake up and bring our NATIONAL GUARD home immediately, where they lawfully belong.
Paul Craig Roberts said it best here:
The Case of the Missing Terrorists
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012/05/14/the-case-of-the-missing-terrorists/
KNOW THINE ENEMY, protect the rest!
And to top it all off… research this website where the exposure of everyday TV and NEWS media is selling the lies you believe in:
http://wellaware1.com
Once you spend at least a day going over these videos… you will say to yourself, “WTF is going on?”
We are still being duped by the MSM.
Give me a break. You don’t know who you’re talking to. There are millions of us who stand up for what’s right. There are millions of us who were out there with Occupy, that is until the movement died an untimely death for lack of public participation. It was the ONLY serious movement we’ve had since the 70s. And no one gave a damn. I was old, but I can tell you something for sure. I WAS OUT THERE. Where were you?
You want to talk about cops and foul tactics? Look at what the NYPD, the OPD, and ever other police department in this country did to the people who had the guts and integrity to get off their asses and say ENOUGH!
My kids always thought I was going to be hauled out of my home by John Ashcroft because I was noticeably and vocally against EVERYTHING the bush** administration did. I lost a lot of friends. I don’t regret it either. Trust me, the cops don’t give a damn about skin color anymore. It’s a CLASS war. 99% of us are cannon fodder and slave labor and the pissants who pay the 1%’s taxes. And this us/them division of the 99% is what will guarantee that the ‘status quo’ lives on.
I know exactly who I’m replying to:
I am white man. I was in those days of riots and integration. I participated in the “streak”… remember that one? I got in a fight on a I-75 rest stop with a car that followed me and my crew 20 miles to say that I broke the law when ‘they’ ran into the back of my truck. My entire crew are not only best friends of mine, but they are African-American raised in the south. When these ‘road rage’ red-necks pointed their finger at me and called my friend Tommy a “N*****” word to my face….
I stopped that asshole in 10 seconds flat. And his 6’4″ 225lb buddy too. Never mess with a highly trained combat soldier from the ‘Nam era. Someone exactly like Dorner is said to have done or did, is me all over. And I know plenty of us ‘bro’s out there that will stand up and fight this tyranny was well.
But I do agree with your statement of CLASS… and not just the RACE issue. It is BOTH!
Well Toots, back in those days I lived in the North Omaha Housing projects, went to predominantly black grade and jr. high schools, and had to watch and see a lot of people, not just black people, but white people, Hispanics, and most of all (and I don’t know why) Native Americans treated like something you would normally scrape off the bottom of your shoes.
OH! And my Mom, being alone with a bunch of kids, was at everybody’s mercy. The authorities, the schools, the people who ran the projects, EVERYBODY!! Women were treated as badly then as they are now. She got sick so they (TPTB) confined (they committed her) to a TB sanitarium for 18 months. During that time the state of Nebraska adopted all my brothers and sisters out because they said she ‘deserted’ us. (Yes, the records still say that because she was always too poor and she didn’t have the fight left in her to fix it).
Oh, did I mention that she NEVER had TB?
The Fact is this, American, shoot an killed and wounded other, in his war on law enforcement for his stated reasons, An American, How John and sue Public, are voiceing outrage with coments on class, race, Not to address it was an American who has killed Americans here in America.He has made his point, the last straw, he will stop when its proven of what has happened to him, and with his own ethics of honor then will turn his own gun an kill himself for killing the two, that’s his personal code of conduct and honor, to use two inncocents to bring out his message.As for the Rest of America, you now divide us as a people as a nation, with your own rants of displeasure, of issues of race or class, Were are not 99percent, were 100 percent Americans, Those that have issues, I say this to You, Place a Traget on you, go out in Public, and voice it for all to hear, tell of your hate of anothers color or Class, tell them you wish them dead or you wish to kill them, Stop being a coward an using social media an networking to spread your own hate, Stand up an be human, in plain sight, in Public, see if what you say is true, and beable to defend your life an cause,JUst because YOU HAte me for my color of skin or my station in life, say it to my face in the out an open,dont hid like a punk ass bicth, an hide behind free speech and civil rights, to it in public for all to see, if you got the balls to even try, afraid that you might get killed for your hate, Find out. We Are Americans, Not arm chair politicians and srinks, or social professors,Fear is what divides the nation, be it thur government or its law enforcement of it, If actualy afraid, then protest in mass, an if nessary with arms in hand for self defence of self an right,
I would be less afraid of Dorner than the idiot cops that shot up the 2 women delivering newspapers.
You definitely have a point there.
He sounds like a new world order propagandist making this whole thing racial
And I am a black man
I too am a law enforcement officer. What was done to you while on the department fails in comparison to what you have now become. Don’t come off with this bullshit about your name being tarnished by other officers. Nothing you have gone through justifies your killing of innocent people. My only wish for you is that your taken alive and made to face the fact that the tarnish on your name is justified. I
would love to be the one who places you in handcuffs.
I know this, you are too much of a coward to be taken alive and will commit suicide. May you foreverr rot in hell and your headstone stay wet with the spit of those paying their last respects.
David Usey
His action in this time is over due. Only white people will come -up with that he is off his” Rocker.” As we have all ways said as Black men in the USA, is that you all bring out the best in us.Jail is not good for then ,if the USA nor CAL saw this coming , all I can say is he told you so! your action are lack of your action for so long will bring this out in more people and city, just keep your eyes open only in the USA. STOP THE COPS BULL– I’VE BEEN BEAT DOWN I KNOW HOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT.I PRAY THAT HIS ACTION HELP PUT A STOP TO THE BULL!
Am I actualy missing the point,2 People were killed to be used as a message to the tragets of this mans rage to make his point.Because he is black, an got dissed. and this is his wake up call and his way to make it public for all to see and have people of all color take action and have a voice on the issue of raceism in the L.AP.D. and all other law enforcement.What I am Hearing its ok to kill to make a case for the issue. Forgive me if I don’t understand the Brother dieing for a cause an for all of us to think about it,As Americans, daily we live in our nation,Daily we all over look the Bad that certain people do, and are aallowed to do it, Because we don’t want to interfear out of fear for the loss of are life, Thus those people are allowed, the rest protest an have outrage, yet there is still that fear, Its not race based, its being a coward, running like a dog with his tail tucked.On any given day, All Americans can say no more it ends here an now, an stand untied as a Nation , as Americans, But as long as this crap of race an class is and fueled, There the Fear is.So I say, Pick a Date, AND actualy have people untie hand in hand, walk side by side, go street by street, Take back what is ours. The Nation of United States of America. There are only so many bullets, so a few will be gunned down,the remander will be arm in arm. How many will actualy stand up and fight for all an be willing to die for all Americans. There is the question, its black n white, not grey area, If its a race war people want then stop dicking around bring it on, get it over with, an like the killer use innocent people to die AS pawns, Is that the Message we want the world to see, Is that are America?????????Our Government is aware of all of this, and what people are saying and what sides they are takeing, Were is the Presidents voice in all of this, an him publicly says, Citzens, take heed, an step back, take a deep breath, remain claim with reason,……His voice is silent, His Power can be Marshal law, Because of the Manhunt and the civil populance in fear, and enforce until this is a done matter, So again, want to realy make it a race issues, or a hunt for a killer of two innocent people.
This guy is batshit crazy. If he stands for what he believes is right then why kill innocent people? This guy is everything he hates and more…A walking contradiction…
Steve
February 10, 2013 @ 3:41 pm
He sounds like a new world order propagandist making this whole thing racial
And I am a black man
Steve if this is his new order of making the hold racial …where have you been not in the USA nor have you live in Birmingham, Alabama FOOTBALL season is over new it’s back to being bama. cops all over the U.S. are doing thing to Jone Q. just .need no reason not a one “JUST” = NO CAUSE I don’t know how old you are …Propaganda …then my living in Birmingham, Alabama off and on for over 56 years
is all bull .. so 50 yr. ago when the cop let the dog out. is bull ,the young man king beat by la cops all as you say “He sounds like a new world order propagandist making this whole thing racial” i guess the that zinn boy oh young man who tap ty-von did not happen. In Miss. the Brother who have been tap in the last 4 to 5yr. did not happen. In Tx. did not happen on and on and ON! shit GET YOU HEAD OUT OF THE ….”FOX” open your eyes …from one black man to another. the only thing about this is you don’t see what he’s doing .BROTHER DIEING FOR A CAUSE AND BECAUSE . AND IT IS FOR US ALL THINK ABOUT….ijs
committing suicide is a learn behavior, not a black thing when you all (COPS) places handcuffs on our loving ones some how we commit suicide, we know it’s bull but it justifies your killing of innocent people right or wrong help me with this …i know all cops are not bad or on the take there no innocent people nor by stander
fact is I’d like to be the one who places the handcuffs on whom ever bring him in..
“NO ONE IS SAYING HE ‘S RIGHT, I JUST DON’T THING HE WRONG WHAT CAN I SAY” ONLY IN THE USA
the people are the state. (Not the institutions that act on behalf of who-knows-what.) Whoever doesn’t have the interest of the people at heart, or manipulates the people against their own interest, is an enemy of the state. Clearly, the LAPD is an enemy of the state. The LAPD is a terrorist organization.
Well if that’s what you think about the LAPD, then the Federal Government must really be on your shit list. They’ve been selling all of us out since 1996 for the 1%. That’s when the attack on the middle and the lower classes began, with the help of the powers that be. During Billy Clinton’s term. Remember the Cadillac driving welfare mother? Remember the banks and Wall Street being picked on and persecuted by Glass-Steagell which had to go away? Remember NAFTA/CAFTA? Billy always claimed to be a democrat. Well it was during Billy’s term that we started down this road to utter ruin. That is when the American public’s economy came to a screeching halt after decades of growth. Pay, instead of rising as it had been for decades, stagnated or began to decline.Big business took away pensions and gave us crappy 401ks. (Now they don’t often give us that.) Under a Democratic administration.
In this case what do you think the proper reaction should be? If the ‘state’ is actually the ‘people’ what should we do about this? Because THIS president says he can detain Americans for an indeterminate period of time under complete secrecy. Or they can kill an American citizen at will. They only need vague suspicions as to what someone is up to and they don’t really need to know who they are. (I can post the memo if necessary.)
So, now that this President has bestowed himself and his administration these obscene and Unconstitutional powers, what happens in 2016? The next guy won’t claim them? The next administration won’t use them? What if it’s another Willard? Where will we be then?
None of them are our friends. We’ve (the 99%) have been on our own and expendable for a long time.
So what do we do? The LAPD is just a part of a systemic problem that threatens us all. Our children at looking at a Clockwork Orange world.
P.S. I am a Liberal Democrat.
I might be a Liberal Democrat but my typing skills sometimes leave a lot to be desired. That was supposed to say ‘Our children ARE looking at a Clockwork Orange world.
Sheesh.
I don’t condone killing anyone, but I understand where Dorner is coming from. Calling this a manifesto is the media’s doing. This essentially is a “last meal” or “last rites”. This is a last or final letter explaining his heartaches, heartbreaks, frustrations, anger, hurt, life’s expectations, and how he got to this point. This is an open letter to those who have wronged him (and they are specifically pointed out by name), those who have hurt him, those who have supported him, those who he has supported and those who have made a positive impact on his life. Dorner clearly explains what this is about. Clearing his name, and making change.
The LAPD and media saying lesbians, asians, hispanics are “high value targets” are taking the meaning and message out of context. He in no way is saying he is going after them, let alone going to kill them. He is telling them that they can and will be the racist, homophobic, xenophobic LAPD’s targets one day.
He’s warning Black supervisors that if they continue to treat white subordinate officers with disrespect and humiliation (to make them feel the same pain white superiors inflicted other black officers and themselves), those same white subordinate officers’ will develop hatred, if they don’t already, for those Black sups, Black officers, and Black people, period. They are helping maintain an environment where everyone loses. Eventually the White officers will advance, as they ALWAYS do, thus more racist, homophobic, xenophobic, hateful cops are walking the streets of LA. In other words, these Black supervisors’ behavior is only perpetuating the problems.
The LAPD knows Dorner’s intended targets do not include lesbians, hispanics or asians but and are intentionally using them to create and cause fear within the community. Dorner has zero intention on killing anyone other than those who directly harmed him, and this unfortunately includes anyone they care about, meaning family. And yes, the people he directly named should be worried for themselves and their family. The LAPD’s actions in handling this case should be as suspect as their brutality, bullying, racial profiling, racism has been all along. Dorner clearly writes “last resort” at the subject line of this letter, and that is where is was when he killed three, last resort. This is all beyond sad; however, when you look at the way he has been treated prior to his “last resort,” what he has witnessed, defended, and experienced throughout his life, and how he is NOT alone with his experiences, I am surprised more people don’t snap in some fashion. Racism exudes the LAPD. Hatred for the homeless, for anyone not White, for anyone not Christian, for anyone perceived as different, for anyone who is “weak,” exudes the LAPD. Dorner is pleading that no one is safe with these monsters until they are stopped. Sadly, Dorner is the one viewed as the monster.
As I said, I in no way condone killing anyone, but when you become worn out, feeling like no one is listening, nothing is changing, and no one really cares, you take actions by any means necessary. Maybe then someone will wake up.
I think, and I could be wrong but I doubt it, even if this guy could be taken alive the LAPD will make sure it doesn’t happen.
Again, I do not agree with what he’s done. Not at all. But I also believe everything he says.
My law-and-order oldest child was appalled when she saw the truck that those two women were in. The one the police shot up. The one with TWO WOMEN delivering newspapers. She thinks the LAPD is trying to cover up for themselves. And I don’t disagree. Not at all. But coming from Ms. Book ’em Dano, I really had to stop and think about it.
Thank you! Thank you! THANK YOU!!! I have been wanting to see his manifesto UNCENSORED by the media!
Drop that coon with an elephant gun! Then, take an ice auger up his rectum until his intestines are hanging out his arsehole like blood sausage!
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This is not a “manifesto”. That word is used to imply madness and I don’t think Christopher Dorner is insane. I do believe he is a threat to many people who would not harm him at all (and a few that would) and his actions will negate the circumstances that led to him being on the run. Of all the things a person could do to bring change to corruption, murder is the least effective. Killing someone is a line that you can never uncross.
You are absolutely right!
“Killing someone is a line that you can never uncross.”
That is what guarantees that this turns out even worse than it does now.
Im still confused about all this but yet I can feel where he’s coming from…. So many DIRTY COPS. If we cant trust them who can we trust. Theese are the men woman we call for help 911! What are we to expect to gt protected or neglected nd I fear to call 911 who will come n officer that stands truthfully behind his badge or one that just doesn’t give a shit…….
LAPD got some serious problems!! that’s a known fact.
LAPD got some DIRTY COPS no question
Henry the Cereal Killer, so have you killed the Captain, Tony, the Leprechaun, or the Silly Rabbit because Trix are for kids? Your disgusting and racist thoughts and words represent LAPD’s reprehensible actions.
When you can shoot up a truck with two innocent women inside because you mistakenly believe they are Dorner, you prove Dorner’s accusations correct. They also proved Dorner correct when he said they do not believe in justice.
Dorner is NOT going to kill someone not connected to those he mentioned. The LAPD will kill anyone, including innocent bystanders or mistaken identity.
Jeri Brown
February 9, 2013 @ 10:49 am
‘ The “being impressed” stopped when I came to the part of Mrs Obama having cute bangs.. I thought to myself, what just happened. As I read further I come to realized he suffers (most likely) from bipolar disorder.” (Brown. 2013).
” HE IS STILL A MAN ,HOW IN THE WORLD DOSE THIS MAKE HIM BI-ANYTHING? If he can articulate his beliefs can he not like Mrs. Obama bangs . what school told you that?ARE YOU FOR REAL?!
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Worst part is the media taking self serving and politically correct positions. Where is the coverage of the cops who shot up the ladies delivering newspapers? What;s truly sad is that Dorner makes a lot of sense inbetween his insanity.
If slaves had the same opinions and excuses as you guys, how much longer would have slavery lasted. There comes a time when folks have to stand up to the bs. and bullies of the world. My hats off to those who fought for my freedom both today and in times past.
The LAPD needs to be revamped. Way too many crooked wackos in the department. I do not condone the killing Dorner is engaging in; killing Quan’s daughter and fiance does what? It buries the legitimacy of Dorner’s complaint against the LAPD. But the LAPD is corrupt, on SO many levels…
Sounds like a man who has been met with a great injustice and has taken revenge into his on hands. I believe him, although I certainly can’t condone his killing folks. It’s sad that the LAPD fired a man for reporting a bad cop. I know this will end badly, but I pray that it doesn’t.
So many of the people in here seem clearly misinformed. A person being suspect of a crime, should not be talked about as if he committed those crimes. Get your accusations straight.
I just can say, “WOW” 😎
I’m almost 65 years old and a retired educator and I believe him.
I think that most people believe the ‘why’.
They don’t accept then ‘how’. He should never have killed anyone.
The catch? No one would have listened if he hadn’t.
It’s such a messed up world.
LAPD has a reputation for abuse, and an even worse reputation for covering it up with that silly “Code Of Silence” thing. I BELIEVE DORNER.
I,m reading his statement and trying to imagine what is his feeling. He is so hurt person but with big reason. If everybody stand up for their rights things like this will never happen. “Big” boys (who is in charge) think that can do everything what they want to others without any consequences, but sometimes they calculate wrong. This is a case. For me, somebody should stud for this man. Here is so many “critics” let say idiots saying he is psycho, he just wanted justice for him self, which he couldn’t have.
all very interesting, but what Donner fails to realize (and therefore really fucked up, IMHO) is that he is only making things worse for the blacks of this world by doing this, not better. It will only give people yet another ‘good’ (so they will think-) reason to continue with their ignorant, historical, totally unfounded and beyond disgusting fear based racism, blatant or subtle. And unfortunately it is too late for him to reverse this!! So he will end up being ‘just another dangerous, crazy black man!!!”. Like we need any more of those!! You know what I mean! if we are to try to slowly but hopefully get rid of the centuries of pain between the races…
I’ve read everything I can related to Mr. Dorner and he is a humble, sincere, honest, grounded person and the farthest thing from a racist or bigot there is. This is not a race issue, except as it relates to the racist whites within the LAPD. Mr. Dorner’s actions have nothing to do w/ race. They have to do w/ inequality and the sickening ” thin blue line “. It’s about protecting the cops no matter the crime, no matter the scenario and to hell w/ the truth, honesty, and integrity of society as a whole or any specific person outside of the LAPD agency. It is clear Mr. Dorner hated ignorance, but nobody likes it. I’m furious that the main steam media will not report the story accurately and that probably 75-80 of people that are informed about Mr. Dorner, support his cause even if they don’t agree w/ direct action. It’s my hope he’s save, rested, secure and ping pongs around the Southern California area for months to come. It will keep the LAPD in check, embarrass the hell out of them and create immediate positive change.
If you look around the world, many of the power structures are starting to crumble, Ie: the Vatican, the banking system, the corruption of the houseing market and now, thanks to Chris Dorner, the LAPD! All of it is coming to Light. I’m sure Chief Beck, who is finally caught with his shorts down, everything is exposed, will have to take a hard look at the dark UNDER Belly of the LAPD… becaues the people will lose faith and he will lose face.
Chris, TAKE YOUR TIME… Don’t rush, the word is out and we hear you. thank you for exposing this harsh reality and letting us see how painful it was. Hatred is Love Disappointed. And I know how hard that disappointment must be. Blessings on your walk.
Don’t count on the MEDIA to report this accurately. they work for the DARK UNDER BELLY and it tells them what to report. Just look into this man’s eyes, and know that he served his country and tried to continue that service in the LAPD! But they don’t want the good guys, becasue they are connected to the dark.
My sentiments exactly, I couldn’t have said it better. There is so much going on that the people of the United States are so in the dark of that it would take a lifetime to pump daylight to them. Take for example 911 Cheney has confessed to the conspiracy He and Bush conjured up and being responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent people because of greed.
Had Cheney not thought of burning in Hell eternally and repented with a written confession we would or shall I say most Americans would never have known their own Good Old Red Blooded American Republican killed their loved ones and blamed it on Who? Terrorist ! Come on ! can you believe these people are so Hell bent on control and power that they committed genocide on their own. OMG! Really! New Yorker! What in the Hell is it going to take before you wake up and smell the BS?
Well let me help you out with this headline you probably never read or heard of.
BREAKING NEWS>>>Dick Cheney Has Change of Heart, Admits to 9/11
Posted on April 1, 2012 by Planet Waves
In his first news conference since his heart was replaced one week ago, former Vice President Dick Cheney announced Saturday that he regretted his “extensive” role in the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001 — and the subsequent coverup.
Former Vice President Dick Cheney said that “knowing the truth would be good for the country.” Photo: AP.
“It was a terrible, terrible thing to do,” said Cheney, speaking in the lobby of Beth esda Cardiac Unit in Maryland , the nation’s most prestigious heart center. Reporters, his transplant team and members of his family crowded around Cheney, who served for eight years under President George W. Bush.
“Looking back, I can’t believe Karl and I actually did that,” he added, referring to former White House staff member and Republican strategist Karl Rove.
“There are a lot of ways to start wars. I don’t know why we had to kill so many Jewish people,” he explained. As reporters shouted their questions, Cheney raised his hand and said, “I am sorry, this is very difficult. I don’t have that much more to say. I just needed to get this off my chest.”
Cheney said that he planned the attacks so that the United States could get a permanent military presence in the Middle East, and have access to Iraq ’s largely untapped oil reserves, the third largest in the world. “I can’t believe people didn’t put this together,” he said, “especially since we outlined the plan publicly in 1998. Even if people trusted me, I take responsibility for lying. It just wasn’t right.”
He said that it was Rove who came up with the date of Sept. 11, which translates to 9-11, “so that people would reminded of it as long as they lived, every time they see an ambulance or police car. It was very clever marketing. Karl is good that way,” Cheney said chuckling. “But it’s not funny. Sorry,” he added. “I regret that we were aware that the date commemorates the CIA coup of Chile in 1973, but that was not intentional.”
Cheney explained that the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center were in fact demolished by controlled demolition, and that the airplane crashes into the towers merely served as a distraction. “They were drone aircraft,” he said. “Nobody was on board. That part is good,” he said. “I am proud that I suggested that. Everyone else wanted to use real jets.”
On Saturday, Cheney admitted to his role in the planned demolition of the World Trade Center — and the coverup.
He criticized the demolition of WTC 7, the third building to fall that day, as “sloppy work,” which he said was the result of “the CIA’s arrogance. They said nobody would notice, and by golly, they were almost right about that.”
He briefly mentioned how the Pentagon was really hit by a AGM-86B cruise missile, launched from an NSA destroyer on Chesapeake Bay . “It was not an airplane. It was supposed to be, but we had problems. We went to the backup plan.” He made no further comment about the Pentagon.
Cheney then summed up the ways in which the government’s involvement was covered up. “But that’s not really an accurate description. The whole thing was a coverup.”
Attempts to contact former Pres. Bush at his home in Texas were not successful. Bush’s father, former Pres. George H.W. Bush, released a statement that said, “I never did like that guy.”
Truthout.org managed to reach Bill Clinton doing relief work in Namibia . “You would be real surprised how common this kind of thing is,” he said, while supervising a house construction site. “I’m so glad to be out of the game.”
News of Cheney’s announcement spread around the Internet rapidly on Saturday, trending at record levels on Twitter as hashtag #yesireallydidit.Major news outlets, including The Washington Post and The New York Times, refused to carry coverage of the revelation. “We think that the vice president is suffering from medical complications or the influence of drugs,” the Times said in a statement. “We will not carry this story.”
Josh Finkelstein, The Post’s longtime managing editor, was confronted by reporters at Washington ’s famous Intelligentsia restaurant on D Street . He said, “This is absurd. This cannot be true.”
The White House immediately went on the defensive. Pres. Obama appeared at a hastily convened press briefing Saturday afternoon, flanked by the White House physician, Dr. Omar Kalibri, and Dr. Wilbur Smith, a medical psychiatrist from George Washington University .“This is a medical issue, so I will let the appropriate professionals speak,” he said, turning the podium over to Dr. Kalibri.
“Sometimes when a major organ is transplanted, the patient takes on some of the psychological properties of the donor,” he said. “That seems to be what happened in this situation.”
The Associated Press reported several hours ago that Cheney’s new heart came from Richard Falcone, who was influential in the 9-11 Truth Movement in San Francisco . He disappeared mysteriously on Friday, March 23. The information was leaked to AP by an anonymous source at the Organ Clearinghouse Database (OCD) in Toledo , Ohio , which matches donors and recipients for the whole country.
Now! put that in your pipe and smoke it. How’s that for truth.
Wake Up America!! It’s later than you think, but it’e never to late to make a change
beginning with the truth. The Powers that Be The Cabal Illuminati and names not worth mentioning because you wouldn’t know them if I did. Lies are practiced
The TRUTH never needs Rehersal.
PEACE
Got anything to back that up? I’ve tooled and fooled around for a half hour now and I can’t do it.
The facts are true. But there’s no way I believe cheney confessed to anything. His next job is V.P. of Hell serving directly under Satan.
Sounds like he’s speaking truth to me. I’m just an old woman but I had years to learn to recognize the truth when I hear it and I’m going with Mr. Dorner. The LAPD will try and murder him. Then they will go on with business as usual. Be careful people of LA the cops are not the good guys anymore.
Poeple get picked on and bullied every day. I do not agree with it, I often fight against it in schools etc. But the fact remains that most people get over it and don’t go killing people. I see many of you saying black people never get help. BULLSHIT! As a white man I stand in the shadows of any black man or woman who accuses me of ANYTHING. I am automatically guilty of racism for being white, for being conservative, and for any number of other things they chose to throw out there. Black people get plenty of help. The fact is that they would rather feel sorry for themselves than to stand up and be men and women, productive in society. This guy had a chip on his shoulder from day one. Do I feel sorry for him? Yes. What he has endured should never happen to anyone. Do I agree with him? No! He’s an idiot and a cry baby who wants the world to feel sorry for hi,. Grow up people.
While many of his points are valid, the fact remains that the guy is a whack job. And you people who are standing up for him are promoting the very violence and hate that you claim to be against.
My take on this is that while this individual my be have treated unfairly by the SYSTEM in which he choose to be employed by that in no way condones VIOLENCE. There are many other ways to bring about change to a morally devoid SYSTEM. However violence is not the answer. Whether it be from the Klu Klux Klan, from over aggressive law enforcement officer’s or from civilians, if everyone that feels wronged in some way takes up arms then we are truly living in a barbaric society. A society that all MUST be armed at all time and wear ballistic body armor basic wardrobe staple. Like a scene from Mad Max are we devolving in to a society sociopath? Oh well, from Oklahoma City to this to the WTC, I feel they are all the same someone who wants to make a point by executing someone that doesn’t even know they are a target…
Where is the honor in that?
Griggsbolius
There is NO ‘honor’ in what he’s done.
But we’re all listening, aren’t we?
Damn, what a crazy world. At least from the LAPD gets to crack open it’s box of drones. That’s about all that’s been accomplished.
This is a reply to a Matt Fowler statement regarding Chris Dormer.
Matty My Boy you sound Irish.Just kidding!…lol…No not Really! But let’s get straight to the point. Now in a perfect world your suggestion would fly, but you know as well as I do where you come from is a different world than where Black folks come from, at least in the minds of Whites.
Now having said that hopefully you can with all honesty re-examine your thoughts and statement. Let’s just keep it real ” A Million Dollar reward is offered for Dormer where about’s but only $ 40K for innocent Hadiya Pendleton Death? This innocent child’s death got the attention of the nation and this is all they could come up with? $40,000.00. Now! something is wrong with that picture don’t you think?
How is it that a 15 year olds life means so much less than a man (Chris Dormer bounty.) What makes Dormer so much more important and the stakes astronomically higher for his head than the killer of poor Hadiya? It’ sound like the LAPD has a Bigger interest in this case because 2 of there officers were shot and the daughter of a particular officer’s daughter was killed. Surely it’s not for her boyfriend who happens to be Black,He too was an innocent bystander.
More Importantly: could it be because of something the father officer of his innocent daughter suffered because of his skeletons and involvement with a group of racist police and the whole damn department. I gottta tell ya Matty: It sounds like some 911 S–T don’t you think? Be that as it may: I promise you this is the year of the Snake says: The Chinese and like my grandmother use to say ” The snake said to the man that thought they had become friends because he help nurture him back to health after being run over by a passing car and the snake bit the man. ” Why did you bite me I thought we were friends? The snake replied: You knew I was a snake when you picked me up” Wow! You’d think by now we would have learn or lesson about the nature of a snake. Wow!
I DO NOT support Dormer killing innocent people as well as I DO NOT support LAPD killing innocent Young Black Men or Black people period for that fact .
Hell I wish like any person in their right mind PEACE ON EARTH, but the fact of the matter is ” The Kingdom suffers violence, but the violent taketh it by force. For every cause there is an effect.
The effect of A Suppressed Modern Day Slavery ,mind manipulation and conjured up lies from the oppressor has reached the surface hit the fan and S–T has spread all over and this time the clean up is en evitable and it smells to high Heaven. The world is getting a waif of what’s really going on and it’s crumbling. It’s a different world Matty things are changing like it or not the script has been flipped and the truth will surface like it or not. So get ready put on your boots because the worst is yet to come for those who have been in control for centuries. Yall got some explaining to do. PEACE
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Like the commercial How id you hear about it”on the internet” So there you are it has to be true, There are a lot of People who log on then read, and think its true an my me real and right, So with that in mind, Kinda make you realize that certain people are going to act out what they are reading and seeing, thinking its the right thing to do, because Hey, Its on the internet, and its true.So with the Words of Hate and Raceism, NIgger and WHITE, Still think its a joke an funny, and Root for a killer, and A Brother doing bizzness and getting even, for being made to be a niggar, A shout Ut to Stand up and get revenge for the Race.I say go ahead become a target, That’s what both side of the stupid race shit wants, thins out the herd of any an all color, more for the rest to get theres something some thing.The Strong take from the weak, those with the bullets make the rules, And those that Think, Well they control and take from the whole,those that think don’t do it with the color of there skin, they use there brains no matter what there skin tone. a killer is a killer, no matter what the cause or the reason, Were is the Honor in that, those that think, just sit back an watch, an let you lessen your herd, then go in for the group kill. Kinda Makes Ya All Wonder WatzzzzzzzzzSup wit dat Yo.
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Davey D’s Hip Hop Corner wrote:
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Try http://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2013/02/two-fbi-agents-visited-me-this-morning-2444662.html or Google Warning to The FBI – Dr. Turi and Christopher Dorner
Rambling? The news media calls his expalantion RAMBLING? The guy lays out everything very clearly. He gives dates, times, etc. If he’s just “rambling,” then why has a new investigation surrounding his dismissal been opened? The racism of LAPD is well-known. It is the LAPD who is responsible for the deaths of those officers, and whoever else gets killed. The LAPD has been arrogantly murdering black and minority people for decades, precisely as Dorner has explained in this piece. Did they actually BELIEVE that it would go on without a reaction?
Well I too have got caught up in the debate of issues, and voiced an opion or viewpoint, As to Why? Only because of the very fact I am an American, an I could and did, With no fear of relatiation, against me, my family or people I care of an about, Now, With that said, My Interest in the Whole mess, is not realy there anymore, For this Passage of social time and interest, while soon fade and Pass, and a New Rally cry, will spring up an grow root, and then People, that have no fear and are free, wil once again ask why or give voice to there side of the point.This is American, and the New American way, No longer the Days of the Old Protest en mass, to dare calsse with the Pigs, Now we enjoy the freedom to do protest Via the Computor, less messy and way more safe, via a remte distance and comfort, with no face shown to be labled and targeted for mere voice of protest of issues.And yet there are those who condem the use of drones, There realy is no difference to it at all, We use what ever means nessary to care a message or point, or even electronic words of warfare.Our Very Nation is made of all peoples color, and at one time every nation had slaves or were those of slaves, Look at history, those once of slaves of nations, unshackled, moved on, yes, with out looking back, an formed there own nations, and built there nation, Yet Here in America,Slaves are no more an haven’t been, yet people wont forget the old, they would rather wallow in the dirt and past, an make the other side pay with regret and blame, from the last generation to the next, Dude, I am White, I didn’t enslave you People, nor have my children, The sins of the father is BullShit, Get off you Ass and Move Forward, and Blame no one other than you self , for your Nots of Have,I am American born, a Honorable discharged Vet, I will defend you right to protest and even to say you have the right of freespeech to say you wantwhitey to die and for you to get revenge, You have the right of Free speech, Now heres the Scarey Part, and take heed, I have the Right to Bear Arms , an Defend My Self, From any and all intrests against my person,property my nation, be it from forien or domestic.As well as use any and all civil law, till exhausted, Does that give me the Right to KIll an other to get a view point or an issues seen an herd and voiced, and to have others say its sad it has come to this point for this to happen, People to kill anyone is wrong no matter what .COULD THIS BE THE SPARK THAT SETS IT OFF, to Change of were America Our Nation is Headed, Will we be a Nation of Ethics not Morals, Instead of Laws, Yes there is and will always be good and bad, people, systems and laws, Yet, will we be ,still be Americans, the Light of the freedom That inspires People to become Americans and to come here to be it, either legal or illegal.This is still the Land of the Voice of the People, Not the Lone gunman hunted with the Voice,We the People, of of Us not Just one, Or have you forgotten were all Americans, with the same color of blood that bleeds RED.As to those who demand the Issue of People or Color, and intrest or Raindow, Your Americans frist, Funny part is you have to remind folk of it with prarades and protest, Yeyt you voice is herd as a Pollitical Rant, Not as a American, Protest that very fact, Your American that is your right, You m ight find uoig ht find its easyer to be what an who you are,and actualy have people respect you more clearly as a n equal American, Not a person who has to prove it, b ut be it. If this offends anyone, sorry not my intention of doing so, an Maybe I have said or worded it the wrong way, Hopefuly the point is in the right direction……Now back to the Real world Judge judy is On,Peaceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!! 😉
You’ll be surprised what people will confess to when they death knocks on your door. I have literally died twice and God miraculosly brought me back to life baffling doctors and those who witness it. I was very young when I drown and saw the little life I had lived pas before me like an oldtime movie of re runs.
The only thing I remember is going under 4 times swallowing more water then I could contain and everything after that is a mystery to this day. However: almost immediately afterwards I developed a more powerful sensitivity to the Holy Spirit and future events as far as 16 years in advance and as little as seconds that I am able to see. I am called ” A Seer”
All of which are recorded and proven. So I know first hand a person experiencing Death or literally dying goes through this. Now! as far as Cheney is concerned I don’t know what He experienced or if He had a near death experience but I’m inclined to think something happen which gave him a change of heart that caused him to repent. Does that mean that He won’t reap what he sowed ? No it does not. God’s word doesn’t change for any individual. Acts 10:34 says: “God is no respecter of person” tthat means we all reap what we sow, and only God can judge us.
So in essence what I am saying is I morn the death of anyone killed or murdered and I don’t condom Chris Dorner taking the life of anyone,at the same time they killed him spiritually morally and hopefully not physically because we need to know from him the truth. You have to ask yourself Why is the reward so high? This will be a movie and the world needs to know the truth. I’m just sorry the daughter of this officer had to die for his sins.
Can I back this up? I just did. I gave you what was reported last year,this is what I’m talking about most people are not aware of the news media or where to find the truth. Remember your local media are controlled and owned by those you would be shocked to know their ownership of all sort s of companies banks orgainzations etcetera. Stay Connected,
PEACE
After reading the entire “manifesto”, it’s easy to see this whole thing is a walking contradiction in logical thinking… PROPAGANDA. Although “Dorner” makes some good points and reveals some of the corruption in law enforcement, he goes off on random tangents and starts spewing extreme liberal rhetoric about gun laws, gay marriage, Jews, praise for Obama and Clinton, etc. Either this was heavily edited by the CIA/Mossad (“sugar-coated”) to serve an agenda, this guy is a fruitcake, or he has already been killed and they are using him to damage his “good name” for daring to fight against police corruption. Osama Bin Laden was already dead, but he served an agenda for many more years. Adam Lanza was also likely dead (the day before Sandy Hook) and look at what he managed to do… allegedly.
Look, a shiny object ———–>>
@Kevin Wright: which is exactly why I posted earlier about the discrepancy, and the fact that the writing ends partway through a word, sentence, and paragraph, causing questionable reliability to any part of this not verified and reproduced elsewhere. The OP does not explain this, nor does any editor.
This guy RAMBLED!!!!!!
Incessantly regarding things that had NOTHING to do with his beef with the LAPD.
I am sorry, I just don’t understand most of what you all are so irate about. I am irate about this man Dorner who allegedly killed multiple people, then sends out this document he wrote admitting to it. Then in this paper he cries about something that happened in kindergarten, tell Jessica Beals she is hot, and gives shout outs to elected officials regarding their work to enact an automatic weapons ban?
Obviously he is suffering terribly from PTSD, has a few screws loose and is an apparent danger to ANY one he deems in his way or wrong. Who is HE to be judge, jury, and executioner? He is not right in the head and he needs to be stopped, by whatever means necessary, not only from what he states in his “manifesto” but by his recent actions. It makes me sad. Whether he was wronged on the job and lost his badge righteously or not is irrelevant. If you are wronged, then you fight it via the proper channels. SOMETIMES people, even though they ARE right, may lose the battle. Good does NOT always will out. The bad guys do often get to win. Just praying this bad guy doesn’t cause any more damage.
Also praying that people will stop looking at poor him and look at the over all picture. So sad, and senseless.
(Side rant: How is it that when a Caucasian hurts a person of different ethnicity it is racist, but when it turned around and the VICTIM is Caucasian, then it is not considered racist? Why can’t YOU ALL just get over skin color. Racism will cease to exist when people stop acting like victims because somebody hurt your feelings and their skin happens to be a different color. Quit being so darned sensitive. Grow a set for crying out loud!!!)
Vennita, the sad truth is that there are no proper channels You are living how I used to live – falsely believing there is a justice system for good people. You can’t even begin to understand this twilight zone corruption of this evil dark empire. You cannot even dream the wickedness that occurs and is covered and dismissed by the above the law power abusing bought & paid demonic judicial and political system.
Somebody needs to catch him! -RUST
The way I see what is going on and I believe LAPD you started this crap by calling him a lier. And threw a well respected man to the lions..Now for the LAPD, CPD, RPD, SDPD ect. you have placed him to be a hated man for what you started. I do pray to god that neither any of the agency looking for him Kill him…… U will have blood your hand if they start another Watts riot.. So they need to rethink how they will get Dorner.
Oh Good god, the talk of watts and roits again, if it should happen again, well just like everytime it happens, curfew national guard and police, will do the same, draw a line, to not enter, an let it burn baby burn, Why?? Because of people letting it happen because of what the think is just cause for such action an a way to protest and have the media broadcast for the world to see, What realy happen, because the actions of those, Peopls homes and bussness with be burn, vandlised,,for what, wanton lawlessness, way to Repersent,burn baby burn Power to the People,An The you wonder why people view those in such a manner, to allow there familes to be put in harms waysThen they say its because of what is an has always been, an will be.Yes there needs to be change, yes it can be done, time will only tell as to when, in our life or those of our kids or theres, But if you need to feel the need to roit and burn down what you built, youi have that very right, an those who have the right to protect can draw a line an have it not spread to those who wish not any of the foolish. Called Containment, again, the boiling point is at hand, all is needed is a spark, Funny at anygiven time the POPO is out numbered an out manned, roit an burn down, when all you have to do is stand arm in arm an march en mass, side by side, strength in numbers, but there are those who will roit an burn, an have the chance to destroy and steal, Dam those High Price Electronics, BabyMomma needs a flatscreeen, an kick ass sound system, and Baby boy or Baby grl needs bling, might as well roit an steal, after all shop owners is insured for theift RIGHTTTTTTTTTTT. Again only a few will do wrong or bad, But the Whole will get the Label, because you allowed it, because it was said, So said it has come to this way to get things done, There was no other way, Realy there is always another way.
it’s disturbing to me that you thank the United States Navy for “instilling honor, courage and commitment” in your DNA, when you clearly have no honor, no courage and no commitment. It bothers me that you were an officer of MY US Navy, but because you didn’t serve very long, I can thank MY US Navy for showing you the door. You are a DISGRACE to MY navy and to all police officers worldwide.
You are right, you aren’t a rapper, a gang member or dope dealer — you are a killer with no sense of moral direction, no ethos, and your care is for yourself and your own personal agenda — that’s it. You are part of the “me first” generation who commands the respect that is not deserved…you have to EARN respect before respect is given.
Clearly, from your own diatribe, you have had issues with people –starting in grade school, and someone along the way (probably your parents), tried to intervene and send you to a Christian school because they wanted what was best for you — that didn’t work too well, according to your own admission.
Your diatribe is neither a diary nor a chronological time-piece — it’s a mess, and would be a nightmare for any English professor on the planet. It jumps from here to there and back to the start in several places…it reminds me of a failure of a movie called “Jacob’s Ladder”.
I think its about time that people listen to what they know is true and tell the liers of the world to WATCHOUT!
WOW!!! Mr. Dorner has his ducks all in a row on this one. I hope they never find him. I believe 1010% everything he posted, why, because an investigation has been opened into his firing. Something is not right with LAPD or any law enforcement agency in the United States. Kuddos on all your endeavors Mr. Christopher Dorner. I just love it.
People of all color that are American, You voices have been herd, Those that fuel the fire and those of who trying with reason not start but stop, Each has chosen a side, No more pleas or warnings, What happens will, then end there is no clear winner, blood will shed and people will die, To Chrisstopher Donner, Ypu will either insiper or be condemned, You sir should stand up, an let Public know, that your sir, its your war upon those who you have sought out, For every one else who has a cause to join or aid, this is your fight, not to enter your war, yours alone. For if What is said to transpire by People, or roits and armed disconcent, Those who belief still in Justice and Laws, will fight back those who are only out for wrong an bad,Your Sir, are not crazy or Insane, You have a Mission, You have made your cause known, Ro its end, Know one knows how it will end, Only You, With what ever Honor is Yours Sir, Stand up,We Who Are Americans, will Defend, What Once you gave as an Oath.Death has No meaning for you,For the Rest of Us, it very much does Mean a lot,No more reply or posting for me,I am not your judge, nor is God, Only you with your Honor or reasoning of Honor is.As to how you live or go out is in your hands as to the Way, I am Appalled at the way Americans have viewed this as to what is right and wrong, and that they Say”” its sad it had to come to this” Here a clue, We as Americans have allowed it, each and every one, Because we say it has come to this, Nothing to do with skin color, its dog eat dog,what we cant earn we desise other of having, an give an excuse or reason because we don’t have it, an blame it on a reason other than self for not being able to obtain,That goes to the Christian and the non-Christian alike, There your reason for the mess of America,Let the Games begin,may the winners learn this time of mistakes, an then there will be actual changes, or the end of man by mans own doing an hands. So much for thee AllMIghty getting in on the action, It’s Mans last stand.All the cards of the Hand are Face Up, I call lwhos got the winning hand????????????A man with the gun an mission, or Those arm in Arm en mass, side by side an March in Voice an demand thur just there will and voice, not in bloodshed, Some will fall by bullet, how many will still march, as one falls will another take his palce an continue to march, from cost to cost, Or will we fight American On American, On Our Own American Soil,Is the Pen RealyMightyer than the Sword???????lFor Now I end, I wish there were Answer, Right here an NOw, Alas, there is not, Only The hour glass running out o sand of time.Maybe it is time for Mans end, let a new life form contine the reach for life and the stars,FreeThinkers Unite, Defend not only with Words, By actions of self for life of others as well as yourself,Any comment or replys..daleus57@gmail.com Peace to all, even those that hate me and wish to have me die for my color, after all I am just a Human like every one else,Maybe I see to much of what the human race can be,
Okay, hold your horses!!! Dorner’s rap was sounding clear and logical [except the part about KILLING folks], at least about the factors that influenced his decision to go bonkers. Abuse, by authorities, is rampant. Look up articles on, “Incivility in the workplace.” It’s a long-time, nasty phenomenon, but especially within the racist “law” enforcement professions. But, suddenly, he [or SOMEBODY] starts ranting about how easy it was for him to get a gun, and he’s virtually blasting the system for not having what perceives as proper gun-control laws.
I’m against ALL guns, and I believe that the manufacture of guns must come to a complete halt, all over the planet. But, I have to admit that the pro-gun folks have been warning us, for quite some time now, that the U.S. government was on the verge of attempting to “take guns away from Americans,” as they put it. The Sandy Hook story now is filled with holes, and a growing number of people are claiming that it was a STAGED affair.
It seems like shootings are happening at an increasing rate. Morris Herman (of YouTube’s 108morris108) has also been warning that more and more of these shootings will occur, and they’re being orchestrated, he and others believe, by the U.S. government.
In short, Dorner might be what is called a “patsy”: Someone who didn’t kill a single person, but is being USED, by the government. Or, the first part of his rant might actually be from him, while the part blasting weak gun control laws, policies, and procedures may have been tacked on. His rant against lack of proper gun-control seems to be tacked on. It doesn’t fit with the flow of the rest of his rant. I smell a rat (maybe).
To all you DumbAss Muthafuckas who think he is “RAMBLING”:
IF YOU HAD ONE LAST LETTER TO WRITE ADDRESSED TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW AND THE WORLD IN GENERAL, HOW WOULD YOU WRITE IT???
YOUR LETTER WOULD LIKELY HAVE A BIT OF THIS, A BIT OF THAT, SOME LOVE, SOME HATE, SOME INSIGHTS, SOME WISDOM, SOME HUMOUR…..YES…..IT WOULD BE “RAMBLING”. YOU FUCKING IDIOTS! THINK BEFORE YOU WRITE, DUMB N-WORDS!
NO SUCH THING AS JESUS/GOD EITHER THANK YO’ MASSUH’S FOR PUTTING THAT INTO YO’Z HEAD!
GHOST YA SELF! YA DIG!
Predictions/Warnings for the FBI by Dr. Turi – What’s Next For Christopher Dorner? http://www.drturi.com/fbidr-turi-whats-next-for-christopher-dorner/
I support chris. Not the innocent killings. He seemed to be a good honest man and the LAPD screwed him. So really is had. I understand his anger. I would be mad too. But killing innocent people horrible:( I hope that chris comes out of this alive and there is a positive outcome to this very bad situation.
The bottom line is that a person who believes that a gun is going to solve a problem of theirs is a person who is mentally ill; so, one wonders how much of his conflict he invited upon himself and how much of it he could have resolved by publicly addressing the issue. I have lived as a white in communities of different race and never felt compelled to assault or kill any of the number of people who tried to denigrate me based on my skin color. I knew better about myself and walked on to a better moment. “The Boondocks” handling of what it portrayed as a “Nigger Moment,” deals brilliantly with this issue.
I fully and truly believe this guy and his every word. Why? I live it, as well as many other cop ex and current wives and gfs. Cops have double the domestic violence rate in the country. SO, if you see 2 cops together, most likely one is beating his women, wife, or gf. So, if you see a group of 8 , what does that mean??? OUCH! Domestic Violence at it’s finest in a report room!!! They are abusive by nature and filled with a lot of anger. There are some who actually want to be a cop to make a difference and think they do no wrong b/c they don’t beat up citizens or plant weapons and drugs on them like their co-workers, but here’s the deal ……………. when you watch your co-workers act in a criminal manner, you are a criminal as welll. You turned your head to a crime and so what does that make you??? Does it still make you a good cop, indirect criminal or a chicken/wuss/ puss? You are no better than those who commit violent acts. Some just outright quit and go to another type of employment. They still don’t tell b/c they want to remain in the Brotherhood. You are actually still considered to be in the Brotherhood after you loose your badge, commit crimes, haven’t worked the dept in years. etc. It’s draws a very sick group of individuals to it whom are mostly on a power trip. Crooked cops, you took an oath to protect and serve, but yet you are letting your fellow officers hurt/harm/commit criminal acts and you put your head on the pillow at night in silence, because you don’t go against the Blue Line of Brotherhood. What a shame? That makes all cops bad cops now b/c the good are ignoring the acts of the bad ones due to their own fear. Why? I know. I was with a Psychocop who made me stay on speaker his whole night shift and my phone records prove that he did not hang up during calls. If he did hang up, he just turned around and called me back to brag about beating someone up , harming them, wronging them, etc. Why didn’t I tell? B/c he was beating me, raping me, putting his loaded duty weapon to our heads, knives, blood, black eyes, chipped teeth and fingers, hair pulling, torture, stalking, break in’s, injured bones in neck, choking, strangling, child abuse, property damage, car damage, PTSD, etc This list could go on forever. I think you get the general idea.
Add in beating handcuffed people and citizens on a regular basis with friends. Nigger was a normal word . Let me tell you what else to African American cops, they act friendly in your face, but to their racists’ a**es, you are still a NIGGA!!! That’s what he ‘d say about his good friend who was black. You are only respected at face value. They (the cops here) also hate NIGGAS. I know of Internal Affairs complaints that were dropped and he really did do it with his friends. I told Internal Affairs all; gave names and they were gonna put cops on lie detector tests. But they found a way to end his 9 month suspension by firing him and then guess what? They closed the case on the 7 abusive cops still in the streets!! WTF???? It’s crooked. We have the most crooked sheriff that can be.
They have tried to retaliate against me 4 x even though i’m a professiional who don’t do drugs or crimes.
The only way to fix this is with Federal Civil Rights Lawsuits. keep suing and making these b*tches pay up. They will finally do the right thing when they put out a couple hundreds of millions of dollars. This guy should have sued federally. I could see why he would want to go vigilante on their asses. I don’t condone violence, but look i have to go before 3 DAs, FBi, Rape/Assault Det, at least 6 Sgts/Lts, Internal Affair from Detectives to Captain, Judges, Domestic Violence Counselors who constantly change, Paid Counselor, my kid to child abuse counselor and other counselors for eah kid who watched a policeman put a gun in mommy’s mouth while strattled on top of her. Yeah. Sad. If they do this to their loved ones, just think what they do to black men????? He’d sit with them in the hospital.I said “the nurse and md will ask how this happened”. He would tell me and the person he was sitting with at University Hospital, “Let him tell. If he thinks he ‘s bad off now, wait til this MF sees what I’m gonna do when i take his ass out of here. Dead MF is what he’ll be. I bet he’ll never talk again”.
And that’s just the beginning of it………………..
Ladies, don’t give your numbers to cops. Remember those numbers! Highest Domestic Violence rate of any profession in the U.S. DOuble chances of your butt being kicked than a bumb off the street. DOn’t do it! He acted like he was Mr wonderful for a couple of months. THen, I had to stop working b/c i was beat up so much i couldn’t explain the bruises to mds , coworkers or anyone else. I basicallly have become reclusive and hiding in my house for years. I still hide b/c his friends want a piece of me now!! THey are furious b/c he was the brawn of the shift. he was so stupid that he’d walk into a bullet to whip someone’s butt . They could get some kicks and hits in but he did most of the work for them. Yeah. I don’t know who will be dead 1st me or this guy. They are hunting us both down. They don’t want me to be a federal witness against the department twice and a civil suit against the dept plus he has 13 DA charges and another Police department where he lives who failed to take action being sued as well. That’s a lot of suits and a lot of money. Oh, and I’m testifying for a citizen he beat up. KARMA!I got him fired through the FBI, not his dept who was protecting him nor the Internal affairs dept who ignored me. NOW, what will they do with the crooked cops that are circling us like sharks here????? I’ve already been shown where they will dump my dead body. I’ve told all the depts so i guess they will need an alternative plan????
Signed ~~ Sitting Duck waiting on death or set up b/c I’m not a vigilante and don’t believe violence is the answer
PS– Me, my child, citizens have been through so much of a nightmare! We are living in horror still b/c of his co-workers. I am trying to sell all that I own and relocate but it’s hard with the bad economy. I may just run and rent b/c I’m so scared of their next move. I am 100% on Chris’ side. If I had a mean streak in me, I would have knocked that bitch off when I woke from death 3 x , but I didn’t . I can’t . His beatings could last 4 hours at a time and I would not speak. Just stare at the floor and cover my face to protect as much as possible for the beating coming. It’s not in me. Plus , he would have beat the F out of me if i ever raised a hand to him. I just took it and cried. . Just like i’m doing now.
Guess what? The dead officer——–my feelings? One less crooked P*ssy MOFO to harm the public!!! I don’t feel sorry for him. If he’s married , I don’t feel sorry for his wife either. He was a criminal and she knew he was a criminal too. They love to tell us their stories about how they harm others. It turns them on and they get stiffer, want sex after. Yeah! Bring all their wives/gfs from the time that Chris is talking about and put them in a room. Tell them they are going to be put on lie detector tests. Just have Domestic Violence counselors ready for when they break down. Then , transport them for medical care of their mind. They will need it.I’m lucky enough to be a professional and deal with it on my own through counselors, plus I did not have to depend on him for support. I had to support him. He was a cheater, too. All, i mean all cops cheat! Not one of his coworkers weren’t and he ws the king of it cheating with men and women in every town. Your brain is F’d with the PTSD after the violence, abuse, stalking, possession, rape, child abuse, property /car damage, lies you’ve had to tell and cover for so long…………….. yeah. That kind of sums it up!
Thanks for listing your ethnicityDavid however: I convienced we all knew you were White. It explains a lot. I apologize if I hurt your feelings but the truth of the mater is Slavery is something you’ll never understand. No bodies accusing you or your children of the unspeakable crimes committed by your forefathers, but the fact remains.
DavidUsey
February 11, 2013 @ 3:02 pm
Well I too have got caught up in the debate of issues, and voiced an opion or viewpoint, As to Why? Only because of the very fact I am an American, an I could and did, With no fear of relatiation, against me, my family or people I care of an about, [ Listen carefully David: No ones disputing your nationality or being proud of being an American and having the freedom of speech. We’re All Americans, but some how society has gotten things twisted and believe this is White America their country when if truth be told it’s Indian Country but Black Americans Built it. I’d say that makes us co owners of the original owners wouldn’t you say? ] But who’s keeping score?
Now, With that said, My Interest in the Whole mess, is not realy there anymore, For this Passage of social time and interest, while soon fade and Pass, and a New Rally cry, will spring up an grow root, and then People, that have no fear and are free, wil once again ask why or give voice to there side of the point.
We’re well aware of this being America David and my intension’s were not to make you feel you had to voice the obvious. We get it ! Remember it was Black Americans whose blood sweat and tears built this country ,so there’s no place for us to go we’re at home. Black American. Not Africans. Born and raised in the Good old USA. First and for most our only language.
This is American, and the New American way, No longer the Days of the Old Protest en mass, to dare calsse with the Pigs, Now we enjoy the freedom to do protest Via the Computor, less messy and way more safe, via a remte distance and comfort, with no face shown to be labled and targeted for mere voice of protest of issues.[Oh! you mean faceless protest like cowards? There a face to everything worth fighting for. Otherwise what’s the point ? By less messy you mean NO SHEETS with the eyes cut out?]
The New America you have yet to see,I concur there’s a new sheriff in town Martin Luther King was for Non Violence ,we believe you live by the sword you die by the sword. This new world your raising your children in today, make sure they know the truth or you’ll all be in for a rude awakening.
Dude I gotta tell ya, I felt a huge urge to do a spell check for you buddy,but than that would take away the level of resentment and animosity display throughout your speech. Having majored in philosophy your mathematic bars of conversation escalating in a spiral frenzy help me to process your thought pattern and
And yet there are those who condem the use of drones, There realy is no difference to it at all, We use what ever means nessary to care a message or point, or even electronic words of warfare.Auh David my boy! am I missing something here? Is there anyone in the room that just got off the boat? Are you the only bright light in the room that realizes you people are the New Minority or is it our age difference that has you stuck in the past? Our nation is made up
Our Very Nation is made of all peoples color, and at one time every nation had slaves or were those of slaves, Look at history, those once of slaves of nations, unshackled, moved on, Moved on David where? Clearly you’re out of touch and it’s understandable your state of confusion regarding modern Day Slavery because you too suffer from White Supremacy. Willie Lynch enslaved the minds of both Blacks & Whites. This is the reason your priorities are in the wrong prospective.
yes, with out looking back, an formed there own nations, and built there nation, Yet Here in America,Slaves are no more an haven’t been, yet people wont forget the old, they would rather wallow in the dirt and past, an make the other side pay with regret and blame,
You’re feeling like you are because of guilt David and partcially because of misguided information I hold you accountable for because we all have a choice to decide for ourselves once we become adults even if our parents have tainted your minds with lies hatred and deception. from the last generation to the next, Dude, I am White, I didn’t enslave you People, You people ! ” REALLY DAVID? exactly how old are you? Are you Serious? I haven’t heard that phrase in decades. Wow! You really are a WW II Vet huh? Dude I apologize for your ignorance. This is 2013, Dude talk to your children ask them what year it is. nor have my children, The sins of the father is BullShit, Get off you Ass and Move Forward, and Blame no one other than you self , for your Nots of Have,I am American born, David calm down, take it easy and back away from the revolver, you know You People WHITE PEOPLE are known to take your lives when things are too difficult for you to understand. What you are experiencing is a flash back of remorse ,the sins of your Fathers . But here’s the DEAL you still have time to Repent and hopefully your children won’t have to pay for your idiosyncrasies like the officers daughter did. Wow! Payback is a BITCH. a Honorable discharged Vet, I will defend you right to protest and even to say you have the right of freespeech to say you want whitey to die and for you to get revenge,
STOP it David it’s not necessary to belittle yourself by using words like Whitey to discribe yourself that’s so antiquated. I think you probably forgot to mention Trailer Trash, Honky, Red Neck, White Nigger or DP-Displaced Person. Is that what you were referring to ? We all have freedom of speech, it’s okay to use your words and inside voice David.
You have the right of Free speech, Now heres the Scarey Part, and take heed, I have the Right to Bear Arms , an Defend My Self, From any and all intrests against my person,property my nation, be it from forien or domestic.
I totally agree with you David we all have that right remember? We’re Americans and we have a license to own our firearms and protect ourselves ,You’re absolutely right. As well as use any and all civil law, till exhausted, Does that give me the Right to KIll an other to get a view point or an issues seen an herd and voiced, I don’t know David it all depends, right now you’re in rare form and it’s hard to determine what state of mind you’re in at the moment. I’d be more than glad to help access your behavior and rage you’re presently portraying for free if that’s okay with you. and to have others say its sad it has come to this point for this to happen, People to kill anyone is wrong no matter what .COULD THIS BE THE SPARK THAT SETS IT OFF, No David I think the sparks have been lit for a while now and it’s time to set the records straight and to give the doctor a taste of his own medicine. to Change of were America Our Nation is Headed, Will we be a Nation of Ethics not Morals, Instead of Laws, Yes there is and will always be good and bad, people, systems and laws, You’re right so why don’t you start with the man in the mirror remember Michael Jackson put it in a song so you people could catch on. Change begins at home. Teach your children the truth because their blood is on your hands. It’s your responsibility to raise up a child in the way He or She shall grow and when they get old they will not depart from it. The author of the Book is Jesus…He said it I didn’t ,but I do live by it.
Yet, will we be ,still be Americans, the Light of the freedom That inspires People to become Americans and to come here to be it, either legal or illegal.This is still the Land of the Voice of the People, Not the Lone gunman hunted with the Voice,We the People, of of Us not Just one,
You know I think we’re all a little upset and probably for different reasons, but more importantly: what are you doing on this site? Don’t tell me some of your friends are Black Lol!!!!!!!!:)))))) OMG!!!
Or have you forgotten were all Americans, with the same color of blood that bleeds RED.As to those who demand the Issue of People or Color, and interest or Raindow, Your Americans first, NO!!!!!!! we are men and women of God, first human beings that need not to be treated otherwise. Remember do unto others as you would have done unto you.
Funny part is you have to remind folk of it with prarades and protest, Yeyt you voice is herd as a Pollitical Rant, Not as a American, Protest that very fact, Your American that is your right, We don’t have to protest the fact we are Americans it’s obvious to us ,it’s you people who are imagining yourselves Bigger than you ought. Now that is a Godly principal I bet you didn’t know..lol….
You m ight find uoig ht find its easyer to be what an who you are,and actualy have people respect you more clearly as a n equal American,
You know David that’s just it Black people don’t have to prove anything to you people, that is what got you in this mess in the first place thinking higher of yourself then you ought. I reiterate: you people are the minorities inferior to us, however: we know how you feel we’ve been there, but as I mentioned early on It’s A New Day Deal with it. Not a person who has to prove it, b ut be it. If this offends anyone, sorry not my intention of doing so, an Maybe I have said or worded it the wrong way, Hopefuly the point is in the right direction……Now back to the Real world Judge judy is: ( A reality show ) I don’t watch Sitcoms, My friends are Judges residing in court houses located in the Federal Building in Downtown Chicago. I hear enough of their complaints at family gatherings. I’d rather watch Beavers & Butt Head now that’s a replica of some out of touch idiots. Oh and ELLEN twisted logic on gay rights, What a Joke Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Ha Ha Ha :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))On,Peaceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
No offense taken I hope you have a clearer picture of today and I hope my pointing out to you the obvious has allowed you to see beyond your fears. Which is no more than FALSE EVIDENCE APPEARING REAL don’t say I didn’t teach you anthing …meditate on that for a while,
Oh by the way how many children did the gunman kill at Sandy Hooks Elementary School? WHat point was He proving? Yeah! I thought so.
PEACE
His next hit on his list will probably be somewhere else besides LA. It will be someone or some institution in this letter. He wants national attention and that will do it-moving across the map. It is so sad. I believe some or much of what he says about the LAPD. I know someone who went thru this kind of corruption in another police department in another state. Unfortunately corruption is everywhere. I pray for all those innocent people that have been affected by this or will be.
Black talk radio show host, Joe Madison, read the entire manifesto on his show Monday (2/11/2013) morning on SiriusXM channel 128 formerly THE POWER, and now named Urban View. Not feeling the new name! He then had his listeners call in to discuss the manifesto. You can also listen to Joe (free) on http://www.woldcnews.com out of D.C. M-F 6AM-10AM EST. Great show and you learn a lot from Joe and his callers.
Chis dorner is doin tha right thing from way back n tha day tha LAPD been doin evil things to innocent people n now there getten a taste of there own medicine literally.
My hero!
To the last by AquaBlu, there were Irish slaves as well partner, so stop with the “all blacks were slaves” they were not the only ethnicity to be enslaved in America.
The thing is about Dorner, he made his reasonable in the grand scheme of things hit list and he has stuck to it so far. The other pigs have proven the points since.
Nut Job
To someone in Tampa, you need to write something before you sign your comment.
Yolo
His “Uncensored” Manifesto has been tampered with and is being used to attack gun ownership. This section was added. This section was not written by him.
“If you had a well regulated AWB, this would not happen. The time is now to reinstitute a ban that will save lives. Why does any sportsman need a 30 round magazine for hunting? Why does anyone need a suppressor? Why does anyone need a AR15 rifle? This is the same small arms weapons system utilized in eradicating Al Qaeda, Taliban, and every enemy combatant since the Vietnam war. Don’t give me that crap that its not a select fire or full auto rifle like the DoD uses. That’s bullshit because troops who carry the M-4/M-16 weapon system for combat ops outside the wire rarely utilize the select fire function when in contact with enemy combatants. The use of select fire probably isn’t even 1% in combat. So in essence, the AR-15 semiautomatic rifle is the same as the M-4/M-16. These do not need to be purchased as easily as walking to your local Walmart or striking the enter key on your keyboard to “add to cart”. All the firearms utilized in my activities are registered to me and were legally purchased at gun stores and private party transfers. All concealable weapons (pistols) were also legally register in my name at police stations or FFL’s. Unfortunately, are you aware that I obtained class III weapons (suppressors) without a background check thru NICS or DROS completely LEGALLY several times? I was able to use a trust account that I created on quicken will maker and a $10 notary charge at a mailbox etc. to obtain them legally. Granted, I am not a felon, nor have a DV misdemeanor conviction or active TRO against me on a NCIC file. I can buy any firearm I want, but should I be able to purchase these class III weapons (SBR’s, and suppressors) without a background check and just a $10 notary signature on a quicken will maker program? The answer is NO. I’m not even a resident of the state i purchased them in. Lock n Load just wanted money so they allow you to purchase class III weapons with just a notarized trust, military ID. Shame on you, Lock n Load. NFA and ATF need new laws and policies that do not allow loopholes such as this. In the end, I hope that you will realize that the small arms I utilize should not be accessed with the ease that I obtained them. Who in there right mind needs a fucking silencer!!! who needs a freaking SBR AR15? No one. No more Virginia Tech, Columbine HS, Wisconsin temple, Aurora theatre, Portland malls, Tucson rally, Newtown Sandy Hook. Whether by executive order or thru a bi-partisan congress an assault weapons ban needs to be re-instituted. Period!!!
Mia Farrow said it best. “Gun control is no longer debatable, it’s not a conversation, its a moral mandate.”
Sen. Feinstein, you are doing the right thing in leading the re-institution of a national AWB. Never again should any public official state that their prayers and thoughts are with the family. That has become cliche’ and meaningless. Its time for action. Let this be your legacy that you bestow to America. Do not be swayed by obstacles, antagaonist, and naysayers. Remember the innocent children at Austin, Kent, Stockton, Fullerton, San Diego, Iowa City, Jonesboro, Columbine, Nickel Mines, Blacksburg, Springfield, Red Lake, Chardon, Aurora, and Newtown. Make sure this never happens again!!!
In my cache you will find several small arms. In the cache, Bushmaster firearms, Remington precision rifles, and AAC Suppressors (silencers). All of these small arms are manufactured by Cerberus/Freedom Group. The same company responsible for the Portland mall shooting, Webster , NY, and Sandy Hook massacre.
You disrespect the office of the POTUS/Presidency and Commander in Chief. You call him Kenyan, mongroid, halfrican, muslim, and FBHO when in essence you are to address him as simply, President. The same as you did to President George W. Bush and all those in the highest ranking position of our land before him. Just as I always have. You question his birth certificate, his educational and professional accomplishments, and his judeo-christian beliefs. You make disparaging remarks about his dead parents. You never questioned the fact that his former opponent, the honorable Senator John McCain, was not born in the CONUS or that Bush had a C average in his undergrad. Electoral Candidates children (Romney) state they want to punch the president in the face during debates with no formal repercussions. No one even questioned the fact that the son just made a criminal threat toward the President. You call his wife a Wookie. Off the record, I love your new bangs, Mrs. Obama. A woman whose professional and educational accomplishments are second to none when compared to recent First wives. You call his supporters, whether black, brown, yellow, or white, leeches, FSA, welfare recipients, and ni$&er lovers. You say this openly without any discretion. Before you start with your argument that you believe I would vote for Obama because he has the same skin color as me, fuck you. I didn’t vote in this last election as my choice of candidate, John Huntsman, didn’t win the primary candidacy for his party. Mr. President, I haven’t agreed with all of your decisions but of course I haven’t agreed with all of your predecessors decisions. I think you’ve done a hell of a job with what you have been dealt and how you have managed it. I shed a tear the night you were initially elected President in 2008. I never thought that day would occur. A black man elected president in the U.S. in my lifetime. I cracked a smiled when you were re-elected in 2012 because I really didn’t think you were going to pull that one off. Romney, stop being a sore loser. You could’ve exited graciously and still contributed significantly to public service, not now. Mr. President, get back to work. Many want to see you fail as they have stated so many times previously. Unfortunately, if you fail, the U.S. fails but your opponents do not concern themselves about the big picture. Do not forget your commitment to transparency in your administration. Sometimes I believe your administration forgets that. America, you will realize today and tomorrow that this world is made up of all human beings who have the same general needs and wants in life for themselves, their kin, community, and state. That is the freedom to LIVE and LOVE. They may eat different foods, enjoy different music, have different dialects, or speak a second language, but in essence are no different from you and I. This is America. We are not a perfect sovereign country as we have our own flaws but we are the closest that will ever exist.”
We need more bigger GOVERNMENT to control everything, rewrite the U.S. Constitution, prosecute by using extreme measured. Well, we already there, but not there enough yet. !?!
Predictions/Warnings for the FBI by Dr. Turi – What’s Next For Christopher Dorner? http://www.drturi.com/fbidr-turi-whats-next-for-christopher-dorner/
I am trying to view this situation from both sides of the coin. I am not condoning what they say that this guy did, but how to we know that he killed anyone? Remember this information is coming from the LAPD who obviously cannot be trusted. Remember people he is innocent until proven guilty. Sad part is that we will never hear his side, because the dead can’t talk.
In the wake of 9/11, many citizens have witnessed the civilian police across the nation morph into militarized, antagonistic and provocative thugs. Many peoples rights are reduced as cops’ perceived powers have evolved within their ranks. Their mission is no longer to “protect and Serve” but instead their mandate appears to be “Intimidate, subjugate and dominate”. Remember the Arizona grandfather shopping Wal-mart on black Friday who, while handcuffed, was face slammed on the floor for what witnesses said was no apparent reason? How about the mentally impaired homeless man who was beaten to death? Or the two women subjected to cavity searches alongside a busy freeway, the list is a mile long with many incidents caught on tape. Widespread cell phone technology has provided many videos on you tube showing graphic unwarranted police brutality, intimidation and harassment with those responsible evading accountability. That is why anyone caught recording the police are harassed, arrested and lose their equipment. People no longer trust them and fear/loathing is slowly replacing respect/admiration. What you see unfolding with the Dorner’s story is the inevitable fallout as citizens no longer trust any of the people in authority. It’s going to get worse before it gets better as people realize the only true justice in today’s America is that which they forge for themselves. I don’t think anyone is supporting Dorner’s killings and rampage. Many people however see his plight and the corruption in the LAPD that caused him his career that he wanted his whole life. For anybody to loss their job on a “he say she say” situation is Ludicrous. I don’t see why someone would lie on their boss. Supposedly the lady he accused of using excessive force was known for those activities. My opinion is that Dorner did witness abuse and ironically it backfired. I don’t approve his tactics, but I think I understand.
the President. You call his wife a Wookie. he has a point
Someone called Michelle Obama a name. Oh yeah, there’s a reason to kill people.
kill him i am excited to know he is dead
You are an evil demon, probably related to the corrupt racist LAPD. Kaddish, Monody! Your time is coming to and someone may be happy when you egress this world. How dare you applaud corruption and evil that drives good innocent citizens mad. The LAPD like Jeff Feinberg are corrupt racist terrorists who boasts about haunting people with reckless abandon with impunity. All of you demons are sick John 10:10 I should not be surprised. Karma. God help all you devils!
This man is suffers from a severe lack of sympathy. He appears to have a great deal of disbelief in the fact that nobody is telling him that he is absolutely correct in taking lives because they just don’t understand and won’t listen! ! !
OUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! ABSOLUTELY Intriguing, Talk about Whistleblower out in the Open. He has Set the Tone For the LAPD Years of my Brothers Keeper Creed and Code of Silence To Strictly Be Investigated Which is Completely the Rules of Engagement in Law as Names have Been Leaked. I am Definitely Going to Follow Up On this Case He is going to Need a Strict Witness Protection that will Keep Him basically Alive Because as For this Manifesto HE IS A DEAD MAN WALKING Already, Killing people does not justify his behavior however there are Thousands who claim abuse by LAPD IJS
Is it not illegal for the police to start shooting at civilians because they see a black face and assume its dorner? “Telling black people to stay home” WTF? Something is ROTTEN here!
Not that I agree with the killing of the innocent, but if he could have dealt with the ones that were directly involved I would feel better about his RAGE. I hope that the Journalist whom choose to write about this particular case, writes the WHOLE truth. I know most people(especially the whites) will try to push the WHOLE truth under the rug and only focus on the recent acts. He has given you all the information you need to thoroughly investigate the WHOLE truth. Racism still exist and it always will. A lot of people say, So much as changed but, yet so much has stayed the same. He has spoken the truth on so many topics. White men hate to see a Black men out-do them on so many levels. President Obama has done just that. Give a White-boy(now a white girl) a gun and a badge and they think they rule the world. So why is it that the officers that beat Rodney King on video for the world to see and they are now in supervisory position? Why do they still have jobs with the LAPD. What about the officers that shot & killed the young black man 12 hours before his wedding and never spent one day in jail? There many others acts, too many to mention. Why as black people, we tend to forget, or look past the truth? When will we see what’s really going on???
Fox News is currently reporting that Christopher Dorner (@ 7:35 EST, 4:35 Pacific time) may have died in a log cabin located in Big Bear, CA where he was surround by a large police contingency when the log cabin suddenly was engulfed in a raging fire. I believe a fatal ending to his life just occurred under Dorner’s unlucky window dates that Dr. Turi had previously and accurately predicted it would happen. I will await final confirmation, but what more evidence does the rest of the population (world) need of his predictive work??
DT – Thanks for the support John, it seems my latest “Personal Lucky/Unlucky Window Dates” astrological discovery has proven to be a very reliable, undeniable information. In Christopher Domer’s predicted demise this formula has been tested publicly but I don’t think the Law Enforcement Agency or the world is appreciating my gift and ready to use such crucial information.
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Dr. Turi it looks like your Astrology got it right again!!!
George
DT – Thanks for the support and observation George, I just realized I have the date wrong and thought the window was over, this prompted me to write more on the subject. However there are no accidents and I trust the dates and the visions /prediction for dramatic news involving the police February 22/23/24 and 25 and something major will take place soon after those days. Indeed this dragon is with us until February 2014.
I really hope they haven’t kill him and he has got away,,, I am praying for his family.. This go to show you that they just wanted to kill Dorner. If they ambused the house….and burned it to the ground…
This fool has a point and is going about it the right way. This wasnt his first option he went to court to stand up for the people but in the end cops win because they look better in front of the judge with a badge on his chest any cop without a badge is still a regular person and shouldn’t be put on a pedistool. Cops don’t try to help people anymore when do you ever see a cop help some old lady or how about the fact that they only know the names of the kids in an area like a skatepark because there labeled bad when the cops should be handling bigger issues instead of a fuckin helmet ticket. Point is this guy has a legitment point and good luck to wherever in the hell he is.
Reggie Wood, How would you like some one to say that about you? Excited.. You are a stupid man..You must be prejudice..
R.I.P. Chris Dorner
You knew, for good or bad, that this is the way it had to turn out. I did. But I sure wanted them to take him alive.
Let’s see if the LAPD keeps ‘investigating’ his charges.
Fox News is currently reporting that Christopher Dorner (@ 7:35 EST, 4:35 Pacific time) may have died in a log cabin located in Big Bear, CA where he was surround by a large police contingency when the log cabin suddenly was engulfed in a raging fire. I believe a fatal ending to his life just occurred under Dorner’s unlucky window dates that Dr. Turi had previously and accurately predicted it would happen. I will await final confirmation, but what more evidence does the rest of the population (world) need of his predictive work??
DT – Thanks for the support John, it seems my latest “Personal Lucky/Unlucky Window Dates” astrological discovery has proven to be a very reliable, undeniable information. In Christopher Domer’s predicted demise this formula has been tested publicly but I don’t think the Law Enforcement Agency or the world is appreciating my gift and ready to use such crucial information.
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Dr. Turi it looks like your Astrology got it right again!!!
George
DT – Thanks for the support and observation George, I just realized I have the date wrong and thought the window was over, this prompted me to write more on the subject. However there are no accidents and I trust the dates and the visions /prediction for dramatic news involving the police February 22/23/24 and 25 and something major will take place soon after those days. Indeed this dragon is with us until February 2014.
It took a while, but eventually this so-called “manifesto” gets to the heart of the matter, doesn’t it? This man was either mentally ill or he was not. If he is considered mentally ill, due to the fact that he killed several people, then every last word he has written has to be seen in that regard. He can’t be seen as mentally ill for killing others but not mentally ill when he talks about gun control. You can’t be “sort of” mentally ill. The whole thing, in my opinion, wreaks of an agenda and it is plain as day.
Who Was Christopher Dorner? – Be curious! Get the facts! http://www.drturi.com/who-was-christopher-dorner/
Yeah right. This whole tragic episode is all about GUN CONTROL.
**sarcasm** **sarcasm** **sarcasm** **sarcasm** **sarcasm** **sarcasm**
Say what you want about Chris Dorner but ask yourself these questions to assess whether he probably was a sane and good person at heart.
1. Why didn’t he disguise himself/his murder attempts better?
2. Why didn’t he initially kill the female hostage so she wouldn’t have escaped in the first place?
3. Why didn’t he wait until he had dozens of dead bodies before publishing his Manifesto? Dorner basically gave them an APP on how to catch him.
4. Why didn’t he kill on the DL and then go out of country? Ever see the Tom Cruise/Jamie Foxx movie Collateral. That is how it is done, son.
5. Why didn’t he plan the whole escape better as he had years to do so?
Well, probably because he at heart was a good man. Say what you will but he was likely a good man who had been pushed too far. Think of all the middle-aged white dudes who get away with murder/molestation/heinous crimes for years and years simply because they keep their mouth shut. That is all Dorner had to do: keep his mouth shut and it would have been a pile-up of dead bodies before the cops put 2 and 2 together.
RIP Bro – Hopefully this will initiate some change in the LAPD.
he was burned alive! Who Was Christopher Dorner? – Be curious! Get the facts! http://www.drturi.com/who-was-christopher-dorner/
Injustice can drive a good man insane. If injustice does not bother the man, he is a tyrant at heart himself.
FBI – Who Was the real Christopher Dorner http://www.drturi.com/who-was-christopher-dorner/ RTpls
such a tragic ending for a troubled soul.
this manifesto has been edited….
he didnt say anything about no damm Charlie Sheen and Bill Cosby in his manifesto…
and he surely didnt care about banning assault riles.
continue to be brainwashed, or download the real one:
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Goes to prove that the races do not belong together. This is being forced on us by the Jews. No thanks. I don’t want to live on a global plantation in which we all lose our specific races and become a mongrel bunch of brownish people with no culture except pop culture. I like that I am White, I have a history, I want future generations of mine to be a part of that continuum of my people. I’d like to think there are blacks that still have pride and want to maintain their own history and racial integrity instead of looking to bang on White women.
I dont know if you’re scared of change, or just very ignorant. If people who are also white have similar thoughts running through their mind of course there will Never be any true equality because you cannot adjust to being surrounded by other races.
If you want to have a excellent future, how about you be apart of the cause to IMPROVE it. Why would you convince yourself to go back to the 1940s and start segregation…? No race in America is entirely responsible of their outcome. Are you familiar with Oppression?
Open your mind……and go outside and get some air, because that paragraph you wrote is from so much brainwashing you’ve been encountered with reading crap on the internet.
American’s are a strange breed. We will circle the globe to see new countries, meet different people, experience new and different cultures.
But don’t let them try to bring diversity here. Oh hell no. And don’t ask certain people to even try to experience it. THAT GOES FOR ALL RACES. I’ve met some brutally prejudiced black and Hispanic people And I’m related to home horrificly racist white people.
What to do?
Thats a REALLY good question, and I wish I had a Really great answer for you.
People just need to open their minds.. as you say, you have met and are related to some very prejudice people. When I hear that, I just feel as if they’ve been living with too much hatred and experiencing extreme narrow-mindedness.
Who knows, they might just hate other races because thats what they’ve been told to do and have no actual reason of their own, or could be from monkey see monkey do behavior or probably from the Civil War.
The best thing is to keep teaching generations that the only race is Human race. As they learn to open their minds, the older generations will eventually die off along with those early 1900s ways.
Sooo sad, good guy gone bad. He snapped and wasnt no turning back. Revolutionist in 2013.
So It is out in the Open, ,We all hate each other, we all judge each other,Side with donner if you wish for the injust of the lapd,Then stand with pride and look those familes of his killing, those who we innocent, and tell them you hate there race an color, an there loss is not important to you, Only that donners message is the ture message and his means were just, and it was ok to use pawns of human life to strike with fear to his straed tragets an mission.Here is Food for thought, If there were no internet, only the paper press,This could have truned out far wrrose, than Pepole just spouting off with words of smack an hate, The Real Message is this an just this: 2 innocent people were shot an killed, You can reason it all you want, still two innocents were killed, ya all want to hate, keep playing the game, hate the players, The rest of us who don’t play, some will pray, an other will as why, and still most of all will debate the god dam thing, Nothing has changed, only this time, no roits,If Nothing else Mr. Christopher Donner, Made Problems known public, and issues far more apperant to question,See, Aquablue, I used Big boy words and Inside voice, With thought an reason, I ask,this: How is two innocent lives more important than that, what ever his cause was, just or not, when he took those innocent lives, tell how then is his cause just, let alone with honor….To some Death of Mr. Donner will be viewd that of a Martyr, A folk hereo, The Rebel, the Messagenger,, a Thug, a killer, To me, he was a just a Mortal Man,his only mark of life will be a footnote in history, In the book of life, judged by not man but by God.
Dorner joins Swartz as Martyrs in the rebellion against tyranny.
Wikipedia:
Tyrant: Plato and Aristotle define a tyrant as, “one who rules without law, looks to his own advantage rather than that of his subjects, and uses extreme and cruel tactics—against his own people as well as others”
Martyr: A martyr is somebody who suffers persecution and death for refusing to renounce, or accept, a belief or cause
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LAPD IS DISGUSTING…THEY COULDNT APOLOGIZE FOR BEING WRONG INSTEAD OF INJURING INNOCENT PEOPLE! COMES TO SHOW THEY WOULD RATHER HARM INNOCENNT PEOPLE THAN LET HARM COME TO ONE OF THEIR CORRUPTED OWN!!!!!!!!!!!!
R.I.P DORNER
(HOPEFULLY HE BROUGHT SOME CHANGE TO LAPD)
Really hope that this situation gets handle. This is really sad… His story really need 2 be heard.. Just wish he didnt have to kill for his name to get cleared… #shame
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FEBRUARY 7, 2013 @ 3:23 PM
“The lapd should NOT be pursuing this man. FBI should. A criminal organization pursuing the person who reported the criminal organization. Hmm how will that turn out?
They will shoot him on site and lie about it.”
YOU WERE RIGHT.
This isn’t over! The fire left smoldering will burn a hole in the hearts of the men that killed Dorner. They won’t sleep at night. There isn’t enough tequila to make this gruesome memory disappear. Either by drinking or violence, the same fate will be visited upon them. If you live by the sword, you will die by it. There is no other recourse.
Dorner spoke to them in the only language that they understood. However tragic this event was, he finally got their attention. He finally had his day in court and allowed the American people to judge him. I for one, understand why he finally snapped. Why going to extremes finally brought this tragic INJUSTICE to LIGHT!
My heart goes out to Dorner’s Mother. I watched the last tragic day with my son, and we both were moved by it’s tragic end. I gave my boy an extra hug, knowing that Chris wouldn’t hug his mom again.
(MOM) If you read this, Chris loved you and he’s sorry that it had to go this way and that you had to watch. He wants you to know that he tried to make it right through the white man’s court, but the judges were friends of the accused and it was not an impartial court as dictated by the US Constitution, which he was sworn to uphold as a military man. But he said what he needed to and named those in the LAPD, who eventually drove him to this mad end. He asks that you forgive him for all the hurt he caused you and he’ll see you on the OTHER SIDE. His great smile will shine down on you, with his great love. You know him better than any other and that will always be the truth.
The other point I wanted to make is that we have over 60,000 plus veterans coming home from this war of desert hell. Many have blood on their hands. The spirits of their confirmed kills will march through their dream time unabated. Many can’t close their eyes at night because the night mare of war continues in their sleep. All of these tortured souls are coming home and we, the people, haven’t got any remedy set up to help them. Giving them a hand ful of psyche meds doesn’t drive off the spirits of their confirmed kills, nor reduce the war madness. And as much as WalMart made that generous offer to give any military veteran a job if they left in good standing, I don’t think thats what our troops dreamed of, while they risked their lives and gave up their innocence to see and do things they’d rather forget…for our FREEDOM…
One remedy: There are some Native American ceremonies that will help wash off the war madness. Creator never gave us permission to kill anyone. Amends must be made if we want peace. Please don’t allow this madness to continue. Blessings on your walk.
You are obviously a very kind and gentle soul and that is very admirable. But in one area your sympathy is greatly wasted. Yes, we will have many many veterans coming home from ‘war zones’ who will suffer from psychological trauma due to their actions (blood on their hands). This is an all volunteer military and these people chose to enlist and go to totally sovereign nations and kill their citizens based on lies coming from a bunch of corrupt cretins who stole an election. Regardless of whether it was the only ‘job’ they could find or whether they just wanted to suit up and kill brown people sitting on ‘our oil’, or they were just plain damn stupid, they chose to enlist, they chose to shoot, they chose to kill. And it had absolutely NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR FREEDOM, NOTHING AT ALL.
We are less free now than we’ve ever been and it is due to the bush** administration and now the Obama administration and their Patriot Acts, FISA, and every other invasive, intrusive, sneaky way the government has developed to spy on us since the onset of these wars. To be used against the people who weren’t stupid enough to believe the propaganda that Afghan or Iraqi peoples were gonna come over there and kick our asses and mess with our stuff. Anyone who really wanted to know the truth beforehand could have. They could have said, when bush** said that we had to attack because Saddam wouldn’t allow weapons inspectors, “bullshit the inspectors were already in there and they were finding NOTHING.”
“There were about 700 inspections, and in no case did we find weapons of mass destruction,” said Hans Blix, the Swedish diplomat called out of retirement to serve as the United Nations’ chief weapons inspector from 2000 to 2003; from 1981 to 1997 he headed the International Atomic Energy Agency.
http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2004/03/18_blix.shtml
They could have said that the IAEA said that there was no reason or proof that Iraq had restarted any kind of nuclear weapons program. They could have surfed the web and found out that the CIA had said the same thing. I DID. I KNEW THEY WERE LYING. And trust me, MENSA is not beating down my door begging me to join.
I think I’ll save my sympathy for someone who really deserves it.
Dear sweet girl, this has been a long “Trail of Tears” and we can bone pick this to death, which America is good at killing. OUr country was founded on bloodshed, ask any Native American or African American for that matter. America has a great debt, with all the blood on her hands. Many of the recent staughters, before Dorner, were white people killing other white people. the white cancer that spread across Turtle Island is finally eating itself. We have no remedy for this malady, and thus the killing continues. Turning a blind eye, smoking some Maryjane and watching our flatscreen TV, while the world screams in agony, is the best some of us will ever do. You rarely find heros anymore. We lose our heros because we treat them like we treated Dorner. Seriously! did anyone care about the injustice he suffered until he pulled the trigger? And then we come out of our stupor, all the while judging anothers pain, that someone could be so angry and kill innocent people!
Ask yourself if there really are any innocent people. Christ actually asked this of the people who were ready to stone someone to death. He merely stated, whoever has no sin, let him cast the first stone. I think thats a good policy. It matters not to me whether you have compassion for Dorner, because Life will deal out your own lessons, and you will get what you give, sometimes many times over. that’s just how it rolls.
There are many stone throwers on this blog, but I would say few have walked in Christopher Dorners shoes. Those who have, have been gentle, understanding and humbled that we could treat our veterans this way. Dorner had the courage to die for what he believed in, to rip back the ugly curtain and show us all the vile nature of the LAPD and how we as a people have allowed this ROT to happen.
What are you willing to die for? Does anything mean so much to you that you would risk a bullet to stand up for it? Can you afford to go back to sleep, while the sleeping giant rages against the machine? Where does your greatness lie? Or have you bothered to look? Peace and blessings on your walk.
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I wonder if he would’ve changed his tactic had he known 9/11 was an inside job.
I don’t want to believe that the cops burn him alive, I am very sadden because I knew they where going to do kill him no matter what, cause there know in there minds it shoot to kill and ask questions later, (what questions). Plus they didn’t mean to burn the home, yea right…. RIP Chris, I know you where trying to get people to paid attenance. And for the Media, get your fact straight before you miss interupt it to the whole world. We don’t need to guest what your saying… And for his Mother it looks like she is in denia about her son… I be crying if something so dramatic happen to him like this or in any other way….What wrong with his mom no heart for her son…
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I don’t want to believe that the cops burn him alive, I am very sadden because I knew they where going to do kill him no matter what, cause there know in there minds it shoot to kill and ask questions later, (what questions). Plus they didn’t mean to burn the home, yea right…. RIP Chris, I know you where trying to get people to paid attenance. And for the Media, get your facts straight before you miss interupt it to the whole world. We don’t need to guest what your saying… And for his Mother it looks like she is in denial about her son… I would be crying if something so dramatic happen to him like this or in any other way….What wrong with his mom no heart for her son…
Dedicating your life to something you believe in with all your heart creates the foundation upon which you live your life and how you envision your future, so as soon as you discover that your belief has been scamming you all along, your life no longer makes sense nor does it have any meaning. Your world comes crashing down around you and you are left feeling lost with no idea what to believe in. Anger and resentment kicks in and the only thing you can do to salvage what little dignity you have left, is to turn on the very thing you believed in and destroy it.
For black people, having a belief is as important as life itself. Christopher Jordan Dorner believed in the United States of America. He joined the army to fight to protect and defend the land he believed in and after the army he joined the Los Angeles Police Department to continue his honourable work. But the LA Police Force proved to be a troublesome place. He witnessed police brutality and when he reported it, he was lied upon and fired.
When black people experience an injustice it is something we cannot let go. Our African psyche understands that crime must be punished, but living amongst Europeans means that injustice will usually triumph.
Everyday in this white controlled world, black people RAGE against INJUSTICE. Some of us have a way of controlling our rage but the slightest nudge to our already wounded souls will set it off… and ALL HELL IS SURELY TO BREAK LOOSE.
Yeah Prince, us whiteys just love us some injustice.
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“…but living amongst Europeans means that injustice will usually triumph.”
Because we all know that there’s NEVER been a dishonest black man or woman.
*sarcasm*
You sound like a reverse Klanner. What color are your robes?
Lol! That’s hilarious! You’re a funny woman.lol Of course a person can be dishonest of any race,color or creed. But I’m talking about a system of injustice. You can’t deny the historical oppression,discrimination and injustice done to black people. Not to mention the genocide of Native Americans. The history of whites is well documented. I’m sure you will deny it though. I don’t bother debating whites about racism and injustice anymore. You see what you want to see despite the evidence. Trying to explain racism to whites is like trying to describe color to a blind man. It’s something that he can’t comprehend. And besides,it gives me a headache.lol I’m done. Peace.
your words haven’t fallen on deaf ears.
It’s worth noting that peoples of European origin have been the most savage of all peoples in their lust to steal of other peoples.
Thanks a lot. I’m glad someone is still living in reality.lol Their track record speaks for itself.
I think people who are saying “I deal with horrible and unfair work environments too, and I’m not killing anybody. I just walked away,” that’s fine. Because the establishment you probably worked for was not a powerful institution whose integrity is the basis for their existence. You probably didn’t work for an establishment that has the power to not only destroy your life, but the lives of anyone they come in contact with because they can. They are the law, the jury, and as we’ve seen, the executioners. The LAPD is supposed to protect our rights, serve the community, uphold the law. When an organization is built on this commitment, their failure and hypocrisy is that much more damaging and bears more weight.
I think if he had worked for Walmart or AllState, he would have made different choices. There might have been a viable way to confront those businesses. The LAPD is a criminal institution. Not all officers are bad, but they have no recourse when they want to be “good” against the corrupt system that surrounds them.
And this may sound odd to many, but I still feel he had integrity and purpose even though he killed three people, two of whom seemingly were innocent bystanders. I don’t think anybody celebrates the deaths of Quan’s daughter and her fiancé, tragic and horrible, as all murders are. But I also feel like their deaths were meant to punish Quan for his role in subverting the truth and being a pawn to the LAPD internal justice system. Innocent, yes. Meaningless, no. The two older ladies delivering newspapers, shot at, surprisingly alive, they were innocent and their attack meaningless. This is where I draw the distinction between the cops and dorner to those of you who say he’s just as bad as the people he’s going after.
I BELIEVE THAT GOVERNOR OF CALIFORNIA SHOULD HAVE THE ENTIRE LAPD DISBANDED. AND REPLACE THE ENTIRE FORCE WITH NEW POLICEMEN OR TRANSFER COPS WITH BAD RECORDS TO OTHER CITIES OR STATES. OR SOMETHING TO THIS NATURE. BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE ENTIRE “LAPD” IS OUT OF CONTROL. AND SHOULD BE STOPPED IMMEDIATELY.
JUST LIKE MALCOM X SAID THE ——– MAN IS THE DEVIL DONNER KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE ARE YOU SERIOUS ASK THE PEOPLE IN JAPAN WHEN YOU DROP NOT ONE BUT TWO WORLD ENDING BOMBS ON THEM AND THIER KIDS THE ONLY NATION TO USE SUCH A HORRIBLE DEVICE NOT TO MENTION LYNCHING PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY COULD AND GET AWAY WITH IT.
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I’m with Chris not the killings but some time crucial times call for crucial methods
I woke up at 3 am fully pained over this and thought how the Riverside Sherriff(press conference) denied setting the house on fire, when the reporter had tape and audio which proved that they intended to Burn Chris Dorner out the whole time and we’ve got another bunch of liars in the Riverside Sheriff Department that think we, the people, are stupid and will believe whatever they say.
This is much bigger than Chris Dorner and the LAPD, this corruption and abuse of force is systemic. It’s time to wake up and demand a change, otherwise there will be more of the same with all the veterans coming home. they are either killing themselves or their families and we will have 40 more years of unhealed people.
I don’t blame them, the veterans, but we will be affected by the war madness they bring home. We need good healing methods in place for their reception. Peace and blessings
Henry Cereal Killer: You know you wouldn’t call Dorner a “coon” to his face or any black person for that matter. You come off as ignorant as your ancestors who sat around the cracker barrel planning their next cross burning. I got one word for ya: DELIVERANCE
mc gusto: in one post you go in on someone for using the N-Word and in another post you freely use the word Nigger. You claim Ebonics has enslaved blacks but you make a fool of yourself by communicating in the same manner. (Are you a white person trying to sound hip?–posting NWA and Chris Rock videos of “Straight Outta Compton”? I grew up in South Central LA., and you clown yourself with your posts. Btw, God didn’t enslave me. He set me free. You see, men, influenced by the devil (we’re all born into this world under original sin and therefore children of the devil until we receive Jesus as Savior and then receive God’s nature) twisted the Bible and things of God. God is love. God doesn’t enslave. He liberates through His Son. God doesn’t hate. God made all of us. He’s not prejudice. He’s not the one who said white skin is superior. That came straight from the pit of hell. Unfortunately, there were people who claimed to represent God who distorted scripture and made God into who they wanted Him to be not who He is. Jesus’s skin color doesn’t matter. Who He is, what He did/does, and is about matters. He was born in the Middle East. Do you think he was Anglo-Saxon? He’s an ancestor of King David who had a son with Bathsheba (said to be a black woman). That son’s name was Solomon. (said to be a black man). You see, in order to represent all men on that cross, Jesus would have to represent all of the races. And, lastly, trust, if Chris Dorner didn’t repent of his sins and confess Jesus as his Savior before he breathed his last, he will spend eternity in a blaze that makes that cabin fire look like a marshmallow roast. I don’t say this with any malice towards the man. It is the truth for all.
would appreciate it if you didn’t use “nigger” either in jest, to look cool, or to make a point. Whites who called blacks that word didn’t use it as some term of endearment or as a nick name. It was and is demeaning…like you’re not the African name your parents gave you, or the English name the master gave you, or a man, you’re just a nigger…that’s all you are. Well, black people aren’t niggers. They are people who have brains, feelings, dreams, hopes, who feel pain, who love…like all humans.
SoCal,,, answer this,,, why would a slave group take upon themselves their masters religion? KushitePrince,,, you are the bigot here. You never heard of the Irish enslaved by Americans have you. I would wager that you never knew that a lot of jews came over here hiding behind the ‘nationality’ they came from. It was jews running the slave auctions, owned a lot of the slaves etc etc etc. “The Hidden History Of The Americas” is the story of the jews that came over here. How many of you knew Texas was full of jews since the time the Spaniards owned it?
The corruption is systemic and they are playing you for fools with the cut-and-divide nature of the issues. The previous comments before ASpiritsCalledBooze show that.
The corruption in and around the LA area, can be dropped into one category, organized criminals are running the State/Government.
Dorner was assassinated by the SBCS, and they proudly lied to the world on camera.
DrMeat,
Christ came for all men, but Christianity didn’t start in Europe or America. I’d say some of the whites back in the day twisted Christianity to fit their agenda. Some have done it within the last 100 years. Deception is a tool of the devil. Can’t blame God for someone twisting who He is…it’s up to us to find out the truth. God has given us free will. I’d also like to submit that there probably have been people of color who have twisted the Gospel for their own agenda too. Peace.
Wasn’t Dorner talking against racism in his manifesto? It doesn’t do us any good to start pointing fingers at groups. There are bad acting people in all races and religions. Jews were slaves, not all whites kept slaves or were prejudice (or we wouldn’t have had white abolitionists), there were white Christians who helped slaves in America. There were probably Jews and whites who understood on some level what Dorner was trying to convey in his message. There were probably some blakcs who didn’t like the dude.
IF YOU NEVER BEEN THROUGH ANYTHING HE HAS BEEN THROUGH, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO COMMENT. STEP IN HIS SHOES, FAST FORWARD HIS LIFE, AND THEN ASK,”WHAT WOULD YOU DO?.” DON’T YOU THINK THAT HE WOULD HAVE WENT TO THE COURTS IF HE KNEW THE COURTS WOULD HELP HIM? OBVIOUSLY, YOU EITHER DIDN’T READ THIS COMPLETELY OR YOU CAN’T READ!!!!!!!” JUST SAYING, MY OPINION. GO CHRIS!!!!!!!!!!!
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After days of thinking about this, I liken Chris Dorner to a radical ChemoTherapy whereby he revealed the cancerous growth of deception and corruption within the LAPD and tried to erradicate it in the only way the LAPD would listen. Perhaps it was the only way all of America might pay attention. We are asleep behind the wheel of our very lives and have let the cancer take over.How many more of these tragic episodes will happen before we take care of our own?
Plain and simple he knew too much. My intuition is always on point. The killed him because of his knowledge, not his manifesto in itself.
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I just could not read the whole thing but the trend I noticed is that Mr Dorner seems to be the most common denominator. One thing I learned working in Pysch and Prison and Cardiac nursing, if you have problems with everyone, the answer to that problem is in the mirror. Just because he is correct on a few things by no means implies he got to those conclusions because he is sane. Highly functional, with a wicked FPD (fuckinpersonalitydisorder). I would like to see him explain his actions (in court) with someone there to question his motives.
I’m not sure why you chose to respond to me, but in order to know the man you need to walk a mile in his shoes. Without reading the manifesto, or his situation , it is not possible to cast judgment. With your medical back ground, you must know in order to accurately assess a dis-ease, you NEED all pertinant info. Delve deeper and youwillfind the answers you seek.
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